Speculation Tom Barrass [UFA 2027]

[Smithdogmaddog]

Hawks are having a great year, but they are young. will this hold up year on year? Dont think they are in the premiership window for another year or 2 at which stage barrass is nearing retirement.

I would add, hawks havent had a successful trade for a first round pick since getting mccevoy in 2013. the last 3 times since that we traded our 1st rd picks for wingard, mitchell and o'mera id argue we didnt win out.

Mitchell was successful

 

[Smithdogmaddog]

Apparently it’s a deep and even draft with many midfielders so a mid range first and early second may be more valuable than it is in other years where the draft isn’t as deep and more higher end talent at the top of end specifically key position.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Why would it be silly saying he would be unhappy? Hes clearly not happy at the moment as he wants out! I think Hawks would throw in a 3rd if they asked cause that is the way they are.

Most of the rumour I’ve seen is that he’d happily stay at West Coast but they won’t go anywhere near to the Hawthorn salary being offered.

 

[TylerDurden]

Most of the rumour I’ve seen is that he’d happily stay at West Coast but they won’t go anywhere near to the Hawthorn salary being offered.

This is common knowledge now.

 

[lordbob]

Mitchell was successful

i would argue he delayed the rebuild.

 

[Back Pocket Rocket]

I got pretty excited when the rumors of Barrass maybe becoming a Hawk, but if the trade costs us 2 x 1st rounders then I hope our list managers aren't in the single digit IQ range and run away.....fast! let him rot in your backline for the next 3 years

Seconded. As a couch list manager even 1 1st rounder for a 29 year old is going full Crazy Clarko. Move along Hawks.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

i would argue he delayed the rebuild.

Thats a poor argument

 

[HeHateMe]

Yeah like others mentioned 2 firsts unlikely to happen unless we make the grand final. That's the only scenario I can see that would justify pivoting our current strategy that much for the now.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

It wont be 2 firsts

 

[Obeanie1]

So if a club (nominated by Barrass) offer there 1st rounder and Eagles say no we want more, and that club simply says no take it or leave it, do you think the Eagles will be happy to keep an unhappy player for the next 3 years and miss out on a good 1st round pick, knowing that Tassie is coming in and the draft is gonna be even more compromised?

Depends on the pick.

They won't let him go for a pick that ends up in the 20's.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Would accept around pick 10 and pick 30. Harry Edwards is a good enough replacement

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Would accept around pick 10 and pick 30. Harry Edwards is a good enough replacement

Hawthorn will offer next years 1st and this years second (collingwoods)

Will probably switch that and deal will get done

 

[kaiserchief13]

Hawthorn will offer next years 1st and this years second (collingwoods)

Will probably switch that and deal will get done

Why not this years 1st?

 

[sexyhunk]

Seconded. As a couch list manager even 1 1st rounder for a 29 year old is going full Crazy Clarko. Move along Hawks.

i keep hearing first round pick for a 29 year old, does it really matter if hawthorn miss out on one 17 year old kid if they win the flag next year with barrass holding down the backline? and the chance of hawthorn winning a flag increase with barrass in the team and not a 17 year old kid.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Why not this years 1st?

I think Hawthorn would still like to draft someone this year, and based on trajectory would hope next years pick would be worse

 

[Tugga27]

I think Hawthorn would still like to draft someone this year, and based on trajectory would hope next years pick would be worse

If WC do a trade, there's no way in the world they accept a future first and this year's second.

They need players now and your future first will more than likely be a low pick as you go up the ladder.

 

[kaiserchief13]

I think Hawthorn would still like to draft someone this year, and based on trajectory would hope next years pick would be worse

Good for Hawthorn. If you want the player you trade what WC want - this year not next year

 

[BIGHAWK23]

If WC do a trade, there's no way in the world they accept a future first and this year's second.

They need players now and your future first will more than likely be a low pick as you go up the ladder.

Good for Hawthorn. If you want the player you trade what WC want - this year not next year

Can you both read my original post and come back to commenting about what i think the trade outcome will be

 

[Tugga27]

Can you both read my original post and come back to commenting about what i think the trade outcome will be

Fair enough.

I did though and then saw your second last post.
No drama's.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Fair enough.

I did though and then saw your second last post.
No drama's.

Thats from Hawthorn's perspective

 

[Obeanie1]

Hawthorn will offer next years 1st and this years second (collingwoods)

Will probably switch that and deal will get done

Agreed. It won't be two picks this year unless they get another pick somehow.

Hawks will not trade out of the first two rounds this draft for Barrass.

 

[Citizen Erazed]

There are some simple facts involved in this. IF he goes:

• A first rounder will be involved. It will 99% be this year's first rounder.
• A secondary pick will also be involved.
• Depending on the picks above, a lesser pick may be returned the other direction.

WC are in a good position here... the advantage of being a basket case it seems. Barrass is contracted, so the worst case is, he stays with WC and could then potentially negotiate a better deal and remain a happy Eagle. Additionally, (at least) two clubs appear extremely keen to get him in, therefore the likelihood of receiving a better offer increases. The fact those teams are similarly placed on the ladder further increases this.

Now he is out with delayed concussion... or is it actually mothballing? I think he will be heading east.

 

[Obeanie1]

If WC do a trade, there's no way in the world they accept a future first and this year's second.

They need players now and your future first will more than likely be a low pick as you go up the ladder.

There are some simple facts involved in this. IF he goes:

• A first rounder will be involved. It will 99% be this year's first rounder.
• A secondary pick will also be involved.
• Depending on the picks above, a lesser pick may be returned the other direction.

WC are in a good position here... the advantage of being a basket case it seems. Barrass is contracted, so the worst case is, he stays with WC and could then potentially negotiate a better deal and remain a happy Eagle. Additionally, (at least) two clubs appear extremely keen to get him in, therefore the likelihood of receiving a better offer increases. The fact those teams are similarly placed on the ladder further increases this.

Now he is out with delayed concussion... or is it actually mothballing? I think he will be heading east.

Read about the delayed concussion and thought straight away he and or the club has "put the cue in the rack".

Why risk injury in nothing games that could cost you two more years on $700k per year?

 

[HeHateMe]

I don't think clubs being interested really does anything regarding the value. Barrass has to agree to the trade.

 

[SSSSSS]

I could see something like our 1st and future 2nd for Barrass and a 3rd this year coming back.

I think a first round straight swap is fair value but we tend not to mess around too much to get our targets in.