Speculation Tom Barrass [UFA 2027]

[Get_The_Gaff]

It would be really bad of the Eagles to chase out a contracted player, put him on ice for a buyer and then back out. I doubt the Eagles recruiting team would do that. They will take what they can.

Barrass has asked for a trade because we weren't willing to renegotiate his contract .

We would be happy to for him to stay if he was to commit to the contract he signed .

Hawks are offering him 5 years on big dollars . Of course he will want out . He wants the 2 extra years

I have heard nothing that we are pushing him out just we won't renegotiate his contract .

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

If the media think an out of contract Baker is worth a late first rounder then barrass is worth WAY more than pick 13 .

Yeah I totally agree.

 

[Obeanie1]

It would be really bad of the Eagles to chase out a contracted player, put him on ice for a buyer and then back out. I doubt the Eagles recruiting team would do that. They will take what they can.

Not as bad as approaching a player under a long term contract, offering big dollars and an extension, then baulk at the price.

Dont write cheques you cant cash.

 

[RCAB]

Barrass has asked for a trade because we weren't willing to renegotiate his contract .

We would be happy to for him to stay if he was to commit to the contract he signed .

Hawks are offering him 5 years on big dollars . Of course he will want out . He wants the 2 extra years

I have heard nothing that we are pushing him out just we won't renegotiate his contract .

Sure, so you're semi-pushing him out...

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

What are you even on about?
triple treat is 100% correct, pick 13 gives us access to the 13th best talent in the open pool.

It is irrelevant how many academy kids are taken before that 13th pick.

So based on this theory, if in 2026, Gold Coast/Swans/Brisbane take the first 10 players with academy picks, and in 2025 there is 2, then pick 15 is worth the same in both years yeah? If Hawks offered 2025 1st rounder or 2026 you wouldnt care which one we got?

 

[RCAB]

Dont write cheques you cant cash.

We can't cash it, we don't have to though. Like I said, you can just keep him, if you don't like our offer. What's the big deal?

 

[Back Pocket Rocket]

We're so lucky to be graced in this thread by the actual Hawthorn list management team.

So many definitive statements, how can you possibly take it as anything other than gospel?

Lots of the actual West Coast list management team on here too

 

[Obeanie1]

We can't cash it, we don't have to though. Like I said, you can just keep him, if you don't like our offer. What's the big deal?

Hawks seemed to have gone to great lengths to attract his signature.

Go ask them.

 

[bluespooner]

If the media think an out of contract Baker is worth a late first rounder then barrass is worth WAY more than pick 13 .

Baker isn't worth pick 13.

 

[RCAB]

Hawks seemed to have gone to great lengths to attract his signature.

Go ask them.

Great lengths... We'll see

 

[bzparkes]

Its going to be bad form if Tom Barrass is forced to play for WC when he's told them he wants to play elsewhere.

Laughable.

It's bad form to sign a long term contract you were happy with, then want out a couple of years in.

See Petracca.

 

[bzparkes]

Sure, so you're semi-pushing him out...

Expecting someone to honour their contract isn't pushing them out.

Gee some people are stupid on this board...

 

[HeHateMe]

It would be really bad of Hawks to whisper and chase a contracted player, and then back out. I doubt the Hawks recruiting team would do that. They will pay what they need to.

This isn't completely true, the onus isn't on Hawthorn to pay whatever WC demand. It's a negotiation.

Using your own argument against you, it would be bad for WC to nudge Barrass to look for opportunities and to then price him out of the market. Forcing him to then return with his tail between his legs. Other players and managers will see that. If Hawthorn were to back out it's not good for anyone.

Anywho thats unlikely to happen because WC and Hawthorn see the bigger picture and will come to a fair deal for all parties.

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Eagles can ask doesn’t mean hawks have to pay.

If that’s the least the eagles will take then Barrass can stay put. No skin off the hawks nose. No need to overpay just because.

Two firsts with a second round pick going back isn’t a significant over pay

 

[Farang83150]

I prefer watching Box Hill Hawks they at put in. Unlike the embarassment of WC's final game this season.

Yet you try to come across as know all about Barrass....yeah ok, grain of salt just as suspected.

 

[THE_GUN]

So now you’ve agreed to a 5 year deal with a player on good money and then reneged on it.
Poor Tom lol

Well Barrass would be used to clubs reneging by now you would think

 

[Snoref]

Hawks chased him, made the big offer. It's on them to deliver.

Lol bit if WC are unreasonable with their demands...you think we should pony up if WC say our 1st, f1, and both 2nd and f2? Laugable

 

[H00t]

Two firsts with a second round pick going back isn’t a significant over pay

It’s way overs. Especially with such an unknown around our finishing position next year.

 

[Monsterdarlz]

It’s way overs. Especially with such an unknown around our finishing position next year.

It’s likely pick 19-22 for 7-18 hardly a massive change

 

[Snoref]

He's worth a top 10 pick. 16 is not enough.

So tell us how much you reckon Bailey is worth?

 

[Barrybran]

I'm going to be honest, I like to think I'm pretty good at understanding trade suggestions but I'm struggling a bit there I think because you are basically proposing getting other clubs involved where they don't need to be? I can't quite tell haha.

In a vacuum I'd have both similar value to be honest. Both very very good at their role without being the best, Barrass being from WA and extra miles on the legs, older by a 18 months and injury history but a harder position to get quality in. Probably Barrass ahead a little bit but not much.

A little late to reply but my apologies. This wasn't meant as a genuine trade suggestion but more a remark on the absurdity of the respective player valuations.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

So tell us how much you reckon Bailey is worth?

A contracted Bailey(with 2 years to run) is worth a top 10 pick.

 

[Snoref]

This isn't completely true, the onus isn't on Hawthorn to pay whatever WC demand. It's a negotiation.

Using your own argument against you, it would be bad for WC to nudge Barrass to look for opportunities and to then price him out of the market. Forcing him to than return with his tail between his legs. Other players and managers will see that. If Hawthorn were to back out it's not good for anyone.

Anywho thats unlikely to happen because WC and Hawthorn see the bigger picture and will come to a fair deal for all parties.

All clubs would be putting feelers out on players they want, I'm sure WC do the same and I'm sure Hawthorn and WC would of had some dialogue (so they can determine a range for value) before a contract with terms were offered to said player so that the receiving team knows what they would be likely to cough up...if WC want two first as a miminum I doubt it would of progress to where it is now...doubt Hawthorn would og been comfortable in putting TB around the 2 first range...

 

[Snoref]

A contracted Bailey(with 2 years to run) is worth a top 10 pick.

I didn't ask you did I, I was talking to the WB supporter..

 

[Barrybran]

He's worth a top 10 pick. 16 is not enough.

There was a suggestion on our board to request a top 10 pick and leave Hawthorn to figure out the 'how'. I don't think it happens but it makes sense. That is what we should be getting from this trade rather than simply top 10 value.