Werewolf Town of Salem Werewolf IV (Coven Wins)

[dogs105]

I suspect your result has been manipulated somehow

Yeah, but Chipmunk thought you were bad news...

 

[DenieD]

Yeah, but Chipmunk thought you were bad news...

which is probably good news considering chip was evil.

 

[dogs105]

which is probably good news considering chip was evil.

Shhhhh

 

[thewizardmelon]

You said this yesterday and I didn't reply then but I will now.

They are the same thing thing. The hypno chooses/writes the message, and that's what the target receives. Same thing.

So the hypno chooses their OWN message, or picks from the list in the OP? I guess it’s not critical to know right now, but it’s probably important to clarify.

 

[Barrybran]

Yeah, but Chipmunk thought you were bad news...

Think about that

 

[rye]

The list of messages is what a hypnotist would receive, not the target. The target received whatever message the hypnotist wants. At least that’s my interpretation.

Why should we lynch hotchilli and not you? You’ve been unusually quiet this time around.

my understanding of the role was that the hypnotist left a message for the target out of the predetermined list

posting isnt really incentivised in setups that are so heavy on power roles like this

better to sit back and lynch based on results

i havent really felt a need to post a lot which is my mo for traditional scum hunting

pretty sure im still in the top 10 most active players here despite that

 

[dogs105]

Think about that

No, I want your gut reaction

 

[Bovo]

there can be multiple bodyguards btw

serial_thrilla
Can you confirm this please?

 

[BEaston]

So the hypno chooses their OWN message, or picks from the list in the OP? I guess it’s not critical to know right now, but it’s probably important to clarify.

That hasn't been clarified by serial. It is important I agree. If it's from the list we know nunez is talking complete bullshizen. I mean we know he is anyway but whole story falls apart then. I personally think a message can only be selected from the list and that is what the target receives.

Either way, whether it's written or selected by the hypno the target receives the same message so they are one and the same.

 

[BEaston]

serial_thrilla
Can you confirm this please?

there can definitely be multiple BGs mate.

 

[Bovo]

there can definitely be multiple BGs mate.

Well that sucks. I like to think I’m special!

 

[rye]

That hasn't been clarified by serial. It is important I agree. If it's from the list we know nunez is talking complete bullshizen. I mean we know he is anyway but whole story falls apart then. I personally think a message can only be selected from the list and that is what the target receives.

Either way, whether it's written or selected by the hypno the target receives the same message so they are one and the same.

my impression is that it would operate as how you are describing here, ToS is based off a computer game where thats how id imagine it would work?

 

[Pie 4 Life]

there can definitely be multiple BGs mate.

Nothing better than wasting a session on a dick measuring contest only to realise they’re the same size.

 

[thewizardmelon]

my impression is that it would operate as how you are describing here, ToS is based off a computer game where thats how id imagine it would work?

Otherwise, it makes the message list moot if the role doesn’t work that way right? Because those are just messages the hypnotist could receive, which in theory any role could receive. I think selecting from the list is the most correct in this case.

 

[thewizardmelon]

hotchilli - Rye gave a reason (albeit I disagree about this game requiring to be less active than normal, as without a mandated lynch more village activity is helpful, not less) why he should stick around.

Why shouldn’t we just lynch you out my good sir?

 

[thewizardmelon]

Nothing better than wasting a session on a dick measuring contest only to realise they’re the same size.

Agreed. We can dispose of Nunez (no offense) later if we have to, or deal with multiples. Right now we have Barry noted as suspicious and porps noted good confirming one of chilli/rye is evil. That’s where we should aim.

 

[hotchilli]

hotchilli - Rye gave a reason (albeit I disagree about this game requiring to be less active than normal, as without a mandated lynch more village activity is helpful, not less) why he should stick around.

Why shouldn’t we just lynch you out my good sir?

If you guys are keen to repeat the same mistakes lynch me, if you want to lynch evil then vote rye.

Because it's literally just repeating a mistake that's already been made.

 

[Nunez]

you said you received a message that you had the plague n1 and received a message you were poisoned n2. the only role i can see that would explain you surviving a poison is the hypnotist leaving a false message but they cant leave any message relating to plague that i can see in the list of possible messages. this is running on the assumption that role is in the game at all

i dont see how all the inconsistencies in your results as well as your actions not aligning with those publicly stated make any sense but you arent the priority for today

This was discussed earlier. Possible responses aren't set in stone and can be customised. There is nothing that states they have to use the possible roles.

 

[Nunez]

You mean “i don’t want people to know the truth”

Yeah, coz asking the cop to check one of us = not wanting to know the truth

 

[BEaston]

Well that sucks. I like to think I’m special!

you are.

 

[rye]

This was discussed earlier. Possible responses aren't set in stone and can be customised. There is nothing that states they have to use the possible roles.

where was this confirmed?

 

[CursingFijian]

I suspect your result has been manipulated somehow

Only a hex master or a framer could manipulate that result.

I definitely wasn’t visited by a hex master, as I didn't get the messaging around that and framing an outed sherriff isn't the smartest action giving I could actually be checking someone in the Mafia.

It's also just too much of a coincidence that Coven visited yourself, porps (confirmed good) and Nunez (possible evil) and missed a kill on the first night. Then we have chipmunks scheduled post, which ties in nicely with you being a missed target.

I think you're a solid play today.

 

[Barrybran]

Only a hex master or a framer could manipulate that result.

I definitely wasn’t visited by a hex master, as I didn't get the messaging around that and framing an outed sherriff isn't the smartest action giving I could actually be checking someone in the Mafia.

It's also just too much of a coincidence that Coven visited yourself, porps (confirmed good) and Nunez (possible evil) and missed a kill on the first night. Then we have chipmunks scheduled post, which ties in nicely with you being a missed target.

I think you're a solid play today.

Your logic is sound. Your result is not. Unfortunately I'm not in a position to explain why.

 

[ZergMinion]

Only a hex master or a framer could manipulate that result.

I definitely wasn’t visited by a hex master, as I didn't get the messaging around that and framing an outed sherriff isn't the smartest action giving I could actually be checking someone in the Mafia.

It's also just too much of a coincidence that Coven visited yourself, porps (confirmed good) and Nunez (possible evil) and missed a kill on the first night. Then we have chipmunks scheduled post, which ties in nicely with you being a missed target.

I think you're a solid play today.

Pretty much everything you just said was wrong (well...line one was ok at least).

Baz would be the one visited by a hex master or a framer to throw off your result.

Coven has only one possible killing role night one (the potion master), and they have 3 options only one of which is a kill. Baz could easily have been seered, with porps visited by the Coven Leader and Nunes hexed. Or Nunez could have been seered and Baz hexed.

I'm not saying this is what happened, but your logic is bad and you should feel bad

 

[CursingFijian]

Haha. Suck it Chipmunk!! Revenge for all those times I was 4th in the list!!!

Yeah. And all those times you bashed me up on the chess board! Checkmate!