List Mgmt. Trade: Allen Christensen traded to Brisbane in exchange for National Draft selection no. 21

[Art Vandelay_]

Absolutely, but now they have said irrefutably that the deal is off I think they are in a lose/lose position re: PR response.

Could be whoever blinks first. If the pies can't convince Beams to stay and play then they could come running back for that deal they're rejecting. Brisbane blink first and Collingwood get their way...AGAIN!!

 

[Jagshemash]

It involves a swap of picks 12 and 23 rather than a trade for a single pick.

Even still.

 

[ChappyUK]

Absolutely, but now they have said irrefutably that the deal is off I think they are in a lose/lose position re: PR response.

Agree with that.

 

[year of the cat]

Even still.

Would you prefer to take 5 for 14 and only have the one pick or retain 14 and have a second pick in 21. I think the latter is the better deal to be honest this year.

 

[Jagshemash]

Would you prefer to take 5 for 14 and only have the one pick or retain 14 and have a second pick in 21. I think the latter is the better deal to be honest this year.

Definitely the former. Haven't had a pick like that for years. That's just me though.

 

[CatTricks]

So... what happens if he fails the medical? He stays?

 

[_Me_]

So... what happens if he fails the medical? He stays?

he gets shipped to the dog house

 

[Jagshemash]

So... what happens if he fails the medical? He stays?

We get a worse deal probably.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Not according to several on here. Arseholes all the way!

Go Catters

Explain to me how Bundy has to go to Brisbane?
Explain to me how putting the club's interests at a premium means Geelong supporters are arsholes?

First Ryder (falls through), then Beames (looking shaky), now Bundy. All to Brisbane, and their management are all saying personal reasons. And Brisbane has spent the past 4 or 5 months boasting about being cashed up looking for gun players. Everybody has personal issues. It's called being alive. I don't buy it.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Now that the Beams deal is off any chance we can push for 5 for Bundy?
(won't happen I just needed a laugh after such a difficult day)

Speaking of the beams deal. if it does in fact fall through, what's stopping us for putting an offer to Greenwood given the pick gained from losing Beams was going to be passed on to NM? Just a thought.

 

[JUBJUB]

So... what happens if he fails the medical? He stays?

Might need to find where the Geelong VFL play in 2015

 

[CatTricks]

We get a worse deal probably.

Worse as in we keep him?
Selfishly, I hope the Lions' doc is a shit truck and we keep him.

 

[Moggy]

I find it hilarious. I love watching the supporters who think everything the club does is perfect being introduced to Planet Earth.

It's fun.

It's true, because we really do think the club is perfect.

Forget ad hominem. You are truly the master of the straw man argument, Partridge.

 

[vinum coupe]

I thought it was fair. Players leave clubs all the time, we accept it, but it's how you leave that matters and that says a lot about you as a person. The reality is Bundy for months strung the club along when they had a new contract offer for him, at the last minute told them he was leaving and then refused to deal with the club (GC) who met all his supposed compassionate requirements but just so happened wouldn't offer him as much money. As far as I am concerned, that sort of thing says a lot about someone's personal values and ethics as a person, and it's not the sort of character I want around the club. And that's from a supporter who had him as one of my favourites.

While I think commercially we are getting screwed on the deal maybe in the end we are better off for not having him at the club if those are his values.

You might be upset PO, but you are miles, miles better than this drivel

 

[MotlopMagic]

I honestly can't wait until the deal is officially done and we can move on.

 

[SleazySimon]

Explain to me how Bundy has to go to Brisbane?
Explain to me how putting the club's interests at a premium means Geelong supporters are arsholes?

First Ryder (falls through), then Beames (looking shaky), now Bundy. All to Brisbane, and their management are all saying personal reasons. And Brisbane has spent the past 4 or 5 months boasting about being cashed up looking for gun players. Everybody has personal issues. It's called being alive. I don't buy it.

Their personal issue is they hate living in cold, 'footy mad' Melbourne where they apparently get stalked by supporters and need to live in peaceful sunny queensland where everyone will leave them alone. Its for their mental well being.

 

[Strangled Cat]

It's hard to not feel that Bundy stuck his pork sword in the wrong hole, yet it's the GFC which has been fcuked the hardest. But feeling this way would actually mean that I know the facts, and I don't, so I'll fight the urge to blame and just remain, at best, bitterly disappointed.

 

[Two Planks]

Any chance cats have a principal deal in place with another club and will trade pick 21.

 

[year of the cat]

Any chance cats have a principal deal in place with another club and will trade pick 21.

In before half the board:

Yeh, for Lynden Dunn

 

[MotlopMagic]

Any chance cats have a principal deal in place with another club and will trade pick 21.

I hope not. Take it to the draft.

 

[Moggy]

Absolutely. You can very easily build a rep of being pricks.
Or you can build a long term rep of looking after players.

On reputation...

A few in here (not vinum) continually post about bending teams over. That is not the real world.

If you are negotiating a one-off deal with someone you will never deal with again, then you can go for a winner/loser deal. When relationships and reputation matter, that is a losing strategy long-term. The club know this.

 

[Decimate]

What a ridiculously uninformed and immature response.... so not at all surprising from you.

Why would we burn his contract? He can smash himself preseason and if form warrants it he plays... If not he goes back to the VFL like Bluey McGrath and Mensch did in 2002 and helps develop our future stars. He was really good the 1st half of the year and dropped away late. So if he can perform at a good level he plays, if he can't he doesn't... simple

Not very likely, did you see Kels second half of the year?

 

[vinum coupe]

Explain to me how Bundy has to go to Brisbane?
Explain to me how putting the club's interests at a premium means Geelong supporters are arsholes?

First Ryder (falls through), then Beames (looking shaky), now Bundy. All to Brisbane, and their management are all saying personal reasons. And Brisbane has spent the past 4 or 5 months boasting about being cashed up looking for gun players. Everybody has personal issues. It's called being alive. I don't buy it.

That is a pure lie.

I can't believe how upset some of you are.

A guy isn't in a good place. And wants to go.
Maybe you'd prefer "player hates coach, wants to go"

Actually maybe you guys want zero trades.
"Mate, you can't go unless we delist you, that's the way it is"
"But what if I play til I'm 80?"
"You're screwed, that's the way it is"

 

[CatTricks]

Brisbane now bat as deep as anyone through the midfield.
Rockliff, Redden, Rich, Zorko, Hanley, Bundy, Aish, Mayes
Very impressive.

 

[Bring back Moloney]

That is a pure lie.

I can't believe how upset some of you are.

A guy isn't in a good place. And wants to go.
Maybe you'd prefer "player hates coach, wants to go"

Actually maybe you guys want zero trades.
"Mate, you can't go unless we delist you, that's the way it is"
"But what if I play til I'm 80?"
"You're screwed, that's the way it is"

Mate, why wouldn't we be upset!? This is a bloody outrageous scenario that is playing out, and we as a club are getting royally screwed!

It makes me sick.