Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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Libbaaaa said:
Baz is different though, is a genuine flight risk and everyday he isn't signed up he veers towards the Dunkley path of asking for a trade OOC and compromising the return we can get for him. All the talk about Naughton was other clubs being interested in him just like we would be for anyone who is good.
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What you say about Naughton applies equally to Smith or literally any other highly rated un-contracted player.

All players coming out of contract are a flight risk. Its the only real leverage that they have and its why player managers regularly seed stories of opposition interest in the players with a compliant media.

Dannnnnnnnnn said:
Totally agree, just seems like a silly thing to say. Surely the smart line is, "We felt we lacked some depth in that first ruck area this year, so we're exploring all options to bolster that," rather than publicly tell the guy you just lured that you're viewing him as backup.
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What they say publicly to a fan base that just watched their side crash out of finals with Scott Lycett in the ruck and what they said to Sweet to bring him over may be two different things.
 
BEaston said:
Wrapping Joeswash GIF by PotatoITV
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Somehow captures the essence of BF in a simple gif! 😀
 
Foxman98 said:
What does the quality of the clearance have to do with the ruckman?

You are clutching at straws here

Btw we are 7-3 in games Buku has played should we drop Jammara for him them?
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There is a correlation between quality of clearance and a ruckman.

If he knows where to put it and the onballers know where it will be and the ball is there you get GF 2021 3rd quarter.

It helps the quality of clearance when a ruck can tap it down the throat of a player on the move. it helps if he can tap it space and on the side where the midfielder can run on to it.

Any way English is as ruck and that's not a problem he is the least of our issues but I thought Sweet playing with him could have been at least been explored with Tim spending more time in the fwd line and seeing how Sweet goes with the midfielders.

Bev and MC know better.
 

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Dog 36 said:
There is a correlation between quality of clearance and a ruckman.

If he knows where to put it and the onballers know where it will be and the ball is there you get GF 2021 3rd quarter.

It helps the quality of clearance when a ruck can tap it down the throat of a player on the move. it helps if he can tap it space and on the side where the midfielder can run on to it.

Any way English is as ruck and that's not a problem he is the least of our issues but I thought Sweet playing with him could have been at least been explored with Tim spending more time in the fwd line and seeing how Sweet goes with the midfielders.

Bev and MC know better.
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No there isn't there are that mnay different variables on a clearance,

Again Sweet had his opportunities last year and did nothing of note
 
Unorth said:
Recreational drug strikes are silly. They should be done away with.

If it impacts their careers that’s on them and they pay for it in the long run.
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It's all about image. The AFL knows that if their players are caught popping pills at a nightclub or with a dealer on the street or whatever then its splashed over the front and back pages, leads TV News and sponsors get very edgy.
 
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Essendon keen on Xavier Duursma. Such a bombers player
 
dergert said:
Essendon keen on Xavier Duursma. Such a bombers player
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Essendon linked with Billings too.
They're getting into the recycling business
 
Mofra said:
Essendon linked with Billings too.
They're getting into the recycling business
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Billings and Duursma now for the Bombers. Anyone they're not linked with? That's the question.

Get the feeling much of the Bombers trade and FA talk is conjured up/wishful thinking of their many supporters in the footy media.
 

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Article behind paywall can someone please post it

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The Western Bulldogs handed Aaron Naughton an extraordinary eight-year deal after being made aware rivals were prepared to offer ten-year contracts that compared to Lance Franklin’s deal to move to Sydney.
This masthead revealed on Thursday Naughton was on the brink of a mega-deal to sign on at the Dogs, with the club announcing an eight year deal at the club’s best and fairest that night.

The Dogs believed Sydney and West Coast were his chief pursuers, given the Swans need for another key tall and the Eagles link to his home state of Western Australia.

They had been told in negotiations one of those two clubs would offer a ten-season deal for Naughton, who is only 23 years of age.

Aaron Naughton has signed a huge deal at the Bulldogs. Picture: Michael Klein.
Dogs chief executive Ameet Bains told the Sutton Medal audience there was a ten year offer for him from a rival club.

Naughton has another season on his existing contact so the Dogs will secure him for nine years in total.

There is an inherent risk in all long term deals, but the Dogs could not afford to lose a key position star so young and only entering his peak.

The Dogs are confident they will retain the services of Jamarra Ugle-Hagan past his contract running to 2024, given his happiness on his expanded role and close friendship with captain Marcus Bontempelli.


All Australian ruckman Tim English is in no hurry to give away his free agency rights with a deal expiring next season.

But this masthead understands his partner, Super Netballer Rudi Ellis is an excellent chance to move from Perth to play with the Melbourne Vixens next season.

He has a house in Melbourne so, while the Dogs might have to pay a ridiculous amount to retain him, her move gives them hope he will sign on long term like his great mate and former housemate Naughton.

The Dogs have not been offered a deal for Bailey Smith from the Hawks despite reports they would be handed the club’s pick 3 for the under-utilised mid, who finished 15th in the best and fairest.

Naughton signs stunning eight-year mega deal​

Western Bulldogs star Aaron Naughton has recommitted on an astonishing eight-year extension that will keep him at the Whitten Oval for life.

Talks have quickly escalated in recent weeks since the AFL pay deal was sealed, with the collective bargaining agreement to rise 37 per cent across five seasons.

It gave Dogs list manager Sam Power and Naughton’s manager Andrew McDougall, of Corporate Sports Australia, the certainty to broker a new long-term deal.

The eight-year extension locks him until 2032 and makes him longest tenured player in the AFL passing Nick Blakey who is locked in to 2031.

Naughton turns 24 in November and has one more season on his current deal at around $800,000 in 2024.

So the new contract could take him into his 30s at the Whitten Oval in a sign of his loyalty to the club.


Bulldog Aaron Naughton is likely to be a one-club player. Picture: Michael Klein
“It’s a special moment for me to sign, particularly for my family,” Naughton said.

“To sign a long contract and to be here to stay, especially for my teammates as well, I want them to know I am in it with them together. To play alongside these guys for the years to come is really exciting.

“When you get drafted by this club and they make you feel so welcome, not only myself, but the whole family back in WA, it’s fantastic. You build strong connections with all your teammates and I have some of my best mates here.

“I am bullish on this group and what we can achieve in the years to come. It is a lot of hard work and I know this group is willing to put in every day.”

The market for star forwards of his calibre is likely to mean the deal is approaching $10 million in total by the time another CBA rise is factored in.

For coach Luke Beveridge and the Dogs hierarchy it will be a huge relief given the club also has free agent Tim English, star midfielder Bailey Smith and key forward Jamarra Ugle-Hagan out of contract in 2024.

English is set to wait until next year to assess his options with his partner playing Super Netball in Perth and clubs likely to throw crazy offers his way given his status as an All Australian.

Smith is likely in his last season at the Bulldogs next year, with continuing reports that Hawthorn will offer pick 3 for him in this trade period as they attempt to bolster their midfield.


Naughton had a disappointing season by his standard this year, but a player dubbed the AstroNaut for his high-flying ways still kicked 44 goals and is entering his prime as an AFL star.

He will hope to help lead the Dogs back into the finals next year, with coach Luke Beveridge contracted past 2024 but under significant pressure after the club missed the finals this season.

Naughton bought a house in Melbourne in the last 12 months and has always seen his future at the Western Bulldogs.

The Herald Sun revealed last week the Dogs were the favourites to secure the No.4 draft pick from the Suns, and were keen on brilliant small forward Nick Watson in the draft.

It would make their forward line a dangerous multifaceted unit, with Naughton, Ugle-Hagan, Rory Lobb and small forwards Cody Weightman, Arthur Jones and the 172cm forward Watson.

Blues runner settles on new home​

Carlton halfback Zac Fisher will meet senior Roos officials and conduct a medical at Arden St this week as his move away from the Blues grows closer.

Fisher had to get his head around moving clubs to secure more opportunities given his love of Carlton, but is now expected to join North Melbourne.

That deal of at least four years – potentially with a fifth-year trigger – means the Roos will need to ensure he has no unforeseen issues with his body.

But barring something extraordinary, the 25-year-old will add another complimentary piece to the Roos midfield, which is also set to gain Sydney’s Dylan Stephens as part of its onball make-up next year.


Fisher went to school in Perth at Guildford Grammar School with close friend and current Roos full back Griffin Logue, who was drafted out of WA in the same season.

He also played football with Cam Zurhaar, who was a 2017 rookie, in Perth as a junior.

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While the Blues are likely to be a finals contender in coming seasons, Fisher is buoyed by the suite of draft picks the Roos have been allocated as they try to rise up the ladder in coming seasons.

So while he has a contract for two seasons at the Blues, the chance to play some midfield, wing and halfback under Clarkson has proven an appealing prospect.

North Melbourne will hope to secure him for a late pick given he is surplus to requirements at the Blues.
 
With how rarely they test and how quickly stuff can get out of your system, you must be using quite regularly or extremely unlucky to receive multiple strikes
 
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