Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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If Jack Macrae wins 9 possessions on the weekend he will move into the top 50 all time, pretty staggering for a player still in his twenties (only just, admittedly).

If you rank those players by possessions per game, he would rank #1. Of all teams since stats were recorded.

I know stats aren't everything but that is some record.

Deserves way more respect and acknowledgement.
 
He openly said that he wanted to make enough money so he never had to work again after his footy career, but he also said - before the trade - that if the contract offers were in the same ballpark, his preference was to stay. He could have been lying, but he would have looked quite foolish if we called him out and publicly said we'd offered the same terms.

There was an in the know poster on here at the time that said we offered win 1mil/3 years, and Richmond was offering 2mil/4 years. That's 50% more per year (333k p.a. vs 500k p.a.), with the security of an extra year, which 99%(?) of players would move for, let alone someone who's openly said that money is important to them. This was after he accepted a pay cut earlier in his existing contract to help keep the club afloat, so there was a bit of trust lost in how rock solid our player contracts were.

During negotiations, noises from the club made out as that was the max we could offer and that any longer term deal was too risky, yet a month after trading Brown, we offered Rawlings, a B-/B+ grader nowhere near Brown's talent and standing, 450k p.a. and 4 years (1.8mil) to make sure he was ok with nominating for the Pre Season Draft and coming to us (otherwise if he sat the year out or went into the National Draft, we risked complete and utter humiliation after the Veale deal).

The truth is, after Rohde's first year, we thought a contested marking key forward was a panacea for his game plan, and the club became obsessed with getting one, even at the cost of one of the top 20 players in the competition. Smorgon, Rohde, Rose, Barry Richardson and Ste0hen Newport (proven to be an incompetent buffoon) were all on board, and lowballing an existing star in Brown was a pathway to get the salary cap space and trade assets to get a move done.

He's demonised on here, and money hungry he is, but I really don't know if we ever gave him a genuine, good faith opportunity to stay.

There were a few other issues. Hence the lowball offer.

Plenty of discussion around that at the time.

i suspect he was pushed out, to some degree.
 
There were a few other issues. Hence the lowball offer.

Plenty of discussion around that at the time.

i suspect he was pushed out, to some degree.
Brown was offered more than money at Richmond that he has said. I think he was interested in that than the money. There was real estate involved.
 
If Jack Macrae wins 9 possessions on the weekend he will move into the top 50 all time, pretty staggering for a player still in his twenties (only just, admittedly).

If you rank those players by possessions per game, he would rank #1. Of all teams since stats were recorded.

I know stats aren't everything but that is some record.

Deserves way more respect and acknowledgement.
Severely underrated cog in our midfield over the years.

Id have him higher than Scott West on my all time list.
 
Severely underrated cog in our midfield over the years.

Id have him higher than Scott West on my all time list.
Westy won 7 B&Fs..... Macrae is not even in the same conversation imo.
 
Clinton Casey it was. The weird part was that it was even reported in the papers at the time, but the idea was that Casey would hook them up with the investments but they had to pay for them so it wasn’t a cap issue.

Hilariously went up in smoke.

I don’t know if we would have gone for Aker if we had kept Brown but he would have been able to enjoy a few more prelims at least.

Ironically despite the promise of property developments out east he ended up settling in Williamstown.
Yep, lives in Willi. The child of someone I know went to his child’s bday party and from the story I was told he’s a bible basher, Mormon or evangelist. Apparently after the parents left, Brown and wife started preaching to the children. Described as “very weird”…..
 
Yep, lives in Willi. The child of someone I know went to his child’s bday party and from the story I was told he’s a bible basher, Mormon or evangelist. Apparently after the parents left, Brown and wife started preaching to the children. Described as “very weird”…..
Probably preaching a same game multi

Parasite
 
West is no doubt above Macrae, but I do agree that he is severely underrated by a sizeable percentage of the fanbase, only Bontempelli and West average more Brownlow votes in the AFL era...

Avg. Brownlow Votes (1990-2023)
0.83 - M. Bontempelli
0.56 - S. West
0.49 - J. Macrae
0.43 - Tony Liberatore
0.43 - S. Wynd
0.40 - D. Hawkins
0.39 - M. Boyd
0.39 - A. Cooney
0.38 - J. Dunkley
0.34 - P. Foster
0.34 - C. Grant
0.34 - R. Griffen
*minimum 50 games
 
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Yep, lives in Willi. The child of someone I know went to his child’s bday party and from the story I was told he’s a bible basher, Mormon or evangelist. Apparently after the parents left, Brown and wife started preaching to the children. Described as “very weird”…..
When he was pummelling vane toad a couple of weeks ago I imagine he was thinking that it's better to give than receive.
 
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