List Mgmt. Trade & Draft Discussion 2023 post season - Picks Reid,30,40,49,66 (Bush league)

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[Spooky17]

BOND 007 thanks for your insight as always.

Question - were most/all our selections based purely on talent, or a mix of needs and talent. If the latter, no KPDs took your fancy in this draft? Personally, I see us a little light on for young key defenders on the list. Or is it a matter of trialling some of our other key positions players down back in the Beagles?

Cheers.

 

[bombard]

BOND 007 .. congratulations to you and the team for not buckling to the outside noise around trading 1 for below asking price.

I think it's easier said than done. Congrats mate.

 

[EagleMan87]

Bond RN.

 

[eaglespremiers]

GWS didn't think so - they saw some immediate gratification

My words exactly.
Adrian Caruso reminds me of Jeff Carson from Draft Day, where he takes a slightly immature and short-sighted attitude to trade offers and strategies that may be less beneficial in the long run.

 

[WCE_Phill]

Now the draft is over, did anyone here the commentary regarding Essendon pick with Geelong

They refer to Dodoro as a genius and another master stroke

The guy have been the list manager over 10 years and never won a final, or even got close!

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

I don't rate Levi. Won't go top five now let alone in 12 months.

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Same i dont like his game style

Rate
Finn O'sullivan
Jagga Smith
Christian Moares not sure if spelling is right but loved his game

 

[Forward Press]

In terms of picking up a player in next years draft I agree that a R3 pick is relatively inconsequential as it’s not overly difficult to get back in at that point

However, our R3 pick this year was used to trade for Brockman.

Other clubs were also able to use R3 picks to trade with clubs like Gold Coast for higher picks as they collected points for academy kids. Same thing will happen next year

I like Hall. Shapes as a solid citizen that could carve out a reputable career as a complimentary mid - good height, strong body, decent pace

In the end it was probably necessary to trade up given we didn’t want to miss someone we’d targeted but I’d rather we still had the F3

Don't get me wrong, hope it does not happen, but there is always a reasonable chance we'll get a somewhat live draft pick in 2024 for anyone departing our club (I think the biggest speculation is over Yeo leaving as an unrestricted free agent) which will give us ammo for a Brockman-style arrival into our club.

Yes, obviously would rather keep it but if the recruiters knew they had to jump on Clay Hall and the price to pay is an F3 in 2024, I'll back them on it. briztoon has already informed us that there are several academy picks set to disrupt the draft order next year.

 

[Crimson King]

BOND 007

How did we rate Simpson vs Hall/Johnston?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

You know what I like most about Reid and Hall?

I can't imagine them not confronting someone like De Goey after that cheap hit against Hewett.

These young guys are going to change the current culture of the club and drag the old gumbies along with them.

(I may or may not have been incensed by spotting that incident on a video short just then. The lack of reaction was humiliating.)

 

[omgfridge]

You know what I like most about Reid and Hall?

I can't imagine them not confronting someone like De Goey after that cheap hit against Hewett.

These young guys are going to change the current culture of the club and drag the old gumbies along with them.

Barrybran things are looking up for ya!

 

[Free Agent]

This just popped up on my Facebook feed.

 

[PepperTom32]

In other random opinions I am sort of glad NicNat is no longer on the list as this magical thing we've been waiting for.

I swear we were like "she'll be right, Nics back soon we'll dominate, then PFFFRT"

Now the mids can bust in there and attack.

It's all mindset

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I am a bit miffed we won’t get to see the old guard in Nic Nat and the new talent in Reid play together. Though I think it’s for the best like you say

 

[briztoon]

Hey Eastcoasteagle - how about we give the “let’s trade back” argument a rest for a few months!! Please

To be fair, I think Keys was the first poster I read to mention you doing it next year.

 

[Keys]

To be fair, I think Keys was the first poster I read to mention you doing it next year.

Wasn’t me

Must have been a different Keys

 

[Cornelius Roy]

I agree that academies in QLD & NSW need help beyond say traditional states but to do what has happened to Collard (& others) flies in the face of what academies are for. Which is to spend time developing young men & getting a reward for that effort.

The academies are there to expand the sport in those states so they should be encouraging players in those catchments to take up AFL instead of NRL.

Cherry picking the best players from established football states who are already die hard afl fans then moving them up and training them in an afl environment for 3 years before taking them for peanuts is just a joke of a league that has gone way too far in manufacturing outcomes in the interests of profitability. It’s becoming increasingly apparent the AFL will do this through any and all means it has available to it - draft, tribunal, fixture, rules and umpiring.

Jed Walter 100% should have been available to us at pick 1 should we have so wanted him.

 

[BOND 007]

More importantly, why were we so keen on the trade? Our f1 is likely a top 3 pick, in a draft with (apparently) a very strong midfield cohort at the top, We rate Curtin that high?

Any mini red sausages in the war room spread at least?

Yes we did & Freo did as well.

1) make no.mistake he's going to be a player
2) means he is already in our system 12 months ahead of a #24 selection
2) local boy so we don't have the possible go home issue hanging over our heads

 

[BOND 007]

BOND 007 given we took no KPD is it fair to say Busslinger (2024) and/or Taylor (2025) may have given an indication that they’d be interested in coming home?

WC would like both/either but no that really hasn't been discussed nor was it a factor on decisions. WC said they were concentrating on midfield going into the draft

 

[BOND 007]

Yes we did & Freo did as well.

1) make no.mistake he's going to be a player
2) means he is already in our system 12 months ahead of a #24 selection
2) local boy so we don't have the possible go home issue hanging over our heads

And no red sausages- sushi for me

 

[BOND 007]

BOND 007 thanks for your insight as always.

Question - were most/all our selections based purely on talent, or a mix of needs and talent. If the latter, no KPDs took your fancy in this draft? Personally, I see us a little light on for young key defenders on the list. Or is it a matter of trialling some of our other key positions players down back in the Beagles?

Cheers.

When you have 1 pick in each rounds 1 & 2 you focus on talent. Beyond that needs come into play

 

[BOND 007]

BOND 007

How did we rate Simpson vs Hall/Johnston?

Similar - all have strengths & weaknesses. Therefore local boy

 

[BOND 007]

Had A Reid not been available at 30 would we have taken Hall with that pick instead

Good question - not sure as it depended on who was now available. I liked Hastie as well

 

[BOND 007]

Are you still as optimistic on Barnett as a future ruck option for West Coast, or has that cooled a year on?

Yes. Another year in system, another pre-season of weights & fitness. I think he will be alright

 

[BOND 007]

The simple fix is halve the points value of picks outside the 1st round.

Would totally remove this BS trading out of the 1st round and paying with crap picks.

Very, very easy solution.

Then 2nd round picks would be worth more to keep and use. And to match bids in the 1st round clubs would need to keep their 1st rounders to pay the points.

No more double dipping after getting discounts. You want priority access AND a discount. Pay up with 1st rounders as the other picks simply won't generate the points needed.

Problem solved. And no club could argue its unfair as its a rule for everyone.

Not likely to happen but a good idea - I like it

 

[BOND 007]

Did that end up actually working out okay for us by being refused access to Caddy and then landing lanky Reid for cents on the dollar? (That is, assuming we went hard for more than just Curtin).

Time will tell although we would have liked Curtin

 

[pantskyle]

Yes we did & Freo did as well.

1) make no.mistake he's going to be a player
2) means he is already in our system 12 months ahead of a #24 selection
2) local boy so we don't have the possible go home issue hanging over our heads

Spot on. Mentioned it here before but people seemed to suddenly not want to rate him in fear the Eagles would take him at 1 or trade to get him using pick 1.

Was worth risking a F1 for IMO.