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Would be pretty funny and I'd be ok with it.
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Would be pretty funny and I'd be ok with it.
Crazy Vozzo at it again?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...t/news-story/c677c15d4e801fcfd4aa436c0932638c
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...t/news-story/c677c15d4e801fcfd4aa436c0932638c
It's Jack Darling reincarnate. GO YOU GOOD THING
being honest but I don't think Charlie Curnow is what we need. IF and it's a big if he was to go past the first round the Bulldogs would be all over him
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-...now-held-by-police-after-refusing-breath-test
I wouldn't draft him at all now, not mature enough and had question marks over his knees anyway. Is also an in between size at 191cm not tall enough for a KP and too big for the midfield.
*god I hope he slides to #23
Had a quick chuckle to myself when I read the Charlie Curnow headline on the AFL website and my eyes immediately drifted to the "Learning from Luke Hodge" article.
I really hope that doesn't eventuate. Strong contested which is all well and good but doesn't have a strong outside game. Perfect for post Priddis but up until than would be stuck in the WAFL. Might be just my opinion but my gut feel is that Dunkley A) wants to stay in Victoria and B) wants to go to a club where he can play AFL regularly from the start. Both negative reasons to nominate as a F/S to the Swans
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I agree. Why any player would even consider rejecting f/s is beyond me, especially on the grounds of wanting to stay in Vic - surely you just want to maximise your chances of being drafted (think he might change his mind and end up nominating today). Showed a lack of maturity imo and I think if we were to take him he'd have the "go home" factor (to Vic) permanently associated with him. I feel a bit the same way with Lamb which is why I hope he really turns it up a notch this year and makes a strong play to crack our B22. Being part of a premiership favourite is a privilege - if you don't realise that then we shouldn't want you.
Think your bang on with the lack of maturity in Dunkley. Not in a football sense where he has the body of a ready made player but in the sense of being away from home and family. If he gets drafted to a non Victorian club I think he comes with a strong sense of strong go home factor yes.
As for Lamb, 2016 is a big season for him both on and off the field. Hopefully he can cement himself in the side or cement himself in WA and be a long term player. He is arguably in the first selected 25 - 30 players on the list so with injuries and form should get a chance. Up to him to grab it. I'm still bullish on him as a player. Just needs to find his role, settle into it and bulk up over the pre season.
Could be the player that becomes a hybrid high half forward and deep pocket forward like Gunston for instance.
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Hope we put in a bid on him.
Not only have the other clubs been quicker at unveiling of their new recruits than us , they have started assigning them numbers already. still waiting for reddens and jetta's presser.
As long as they play good for us
sneaky delete of jetta in the quote lol.As long as they play good for us
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Redden and Giles training on Monday with the 1-4 yr players , sort of unveiling with the camera's TV networks there .
2009 Draft re-drafted by the foxfooty "pro's"
PICK 1 (priority) – MELBOURNe
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Tom Scully
NEW SELECTION: Nat Fyfe
This year’s Brownlow medallist is a no-brainer for pick one. Undersized and clearly undervalued six years ago, Fyfe has risen to heights perhaps only Fremantle could have predicted when they called out his name with pick 20 in November 2009. Not only did he win this year’s Brownlow Medal, but he was awarded the Leigh Matthews Trophy for the AFL’s Most Valuable Player in 2014 and 2015. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but Fremantle pulled off arguably the greatest steal in draft history by selecting Fyfe – who is likely to be remembered as a generational player when his career winds up. Without him, this already mediocre draft would be considerably weaker.
Nat Fyfe playing in the First XVIII for Aquinas 2008 as a 17-year-old.Source: Supplied
PICK 2 – MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jack Trengove
NEW SELECTION: Dustin Martin
No player from the 2009 draft has played more games than Dustin Martin, who has become an integral component in Richmond’s highly credentialed engine room. He has finished on the podium in his club’s best and fairest award four times and is one of the most damaging ball users in the competition. The 24-year-old has also averaged at least one goal per outing in each of the last five seasons, further underlying his value.
PICK 3 – RICHMOND
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Dustin Martin
NEW SELECTION: Jack Gunston
Gunston is not only a three-time premiership player, he also has played crucial roles in each decider. Adelaide traded him after just 14 games him (for picks 24, 46 and 64) and will be ruing the decision given Gunston’s ability to produce on the big stage. In the 2013 Grand Final he finished second to Brian Lake in Norm Smith Medal voting, booting four goals. His 2015 premiership performance was just as significant, kicking another four majors in Hawthorn’s big win over West Coast.
PICK 4 – FREMANTLE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Anthony Morabito
NEW SELECTION: Daniel Talia
The Rising Star winner in 2012 and one of the AFL’s finest key defenders, Talia immediately settled in to Adelaide’s back six as 20-year-old. He has missed just two games in the last three seasons and was named at full-back in the 2014 All-Australian team.
PICK 5 – NORTH MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Ben Cunnington
NEW SELECTION: Ben Stratton
Hawthorn’s recent draft record is exemplified by its acquisition of Ben Stratton, who has played 117 games since being drafted with pick No. 46 in 2009. Consistency is his hallmark and, although he is in many respects unappreciated outside of the Hawks, his ability to play tall and short means he is one of the first picked every week.
PICK 6 – SYDNEY
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Gary Rohan
NEW SELECTION: Ben Cunnington
Cunnington slides one spot but there is no doubting he has forged an excellent career at Arden Street. He was North Melbourne’s best and fairest in 2014 and has added more strings to his bow in recent years, including the ability to play as a strong - albeit undersized - marking forward. The 24-year-old from Cobden in country Victoria is also one of the AFL’s most effective clearance players.
PICK 7 – WEST COAST
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Brad Sheppard
NEW SELECTION: Mitch Duncan
Having signed on to the end of 2018 this time last year, Duncan shapes as one of Geelong’s most important players over the next few seasons. He’s versatile, highly dependable and boasts premiership experience dating back to 2011. Although injury ruined his 2015 campaign, he managed 60 consecutive games before then.
PICK 8 – PORT ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: John Butcher
NEW SELECTION: Jake Carlisle
In the news for all the wrong reasons last month after requesting a trade from Essendon, Carlisle’s enormous potential is clear. He is likely to create a niche for himself at the Saints as a key defender, although his eight-goal haul against the Bulldogs in 2014 demonstrated he is far more than a one trick pony. In the right environment Carlisle could be anything and St Kilda fans will be praying he delivers given what the club has invested in him.
St Kilda’s first day of pre-season training at Albert Park lake. Jake Carlisle chats to Alan Richardson. Pic: Michael Klein.Source: News Corp Australia
PICK 9 – PORT ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Andrew Moore
NEW SELECTION: Tom Scully
It is difficult not to judge Scully harshly because of his lofty reputation before Melbourne selected him with pick one. In reality the left footer is a durable and at times prolific AFL player. He finished third in GWS’s best and fairest award in 2013 and shares the vice captaincy duties with 2015 best and fairest Heath Shaw. He may not be the player many recruiters believed he would be, but Scully is nevertheless a valuable asset to a developing Giants side.
PICK 10 – ESSENDON
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jake Melksham
NEW SELECTION: Lewis Jetta
Best remembered for his ‘main event’ sprint down the MCG wing ahead of Cyril Rioli, Jetta gets bumped up to number 10 largely because of his stellar 2012 campaign in which his 45-goal tally was more than any other Swan. He was unlucky not to be named in the All-Australian team that year, but still boasts a premiership medallion. A couple of leaner seasons have followed, although Jetta still has the ability to break a game open with a dashing run or a miraculous goal. Time will tell whether he can rediscover his 2012 form in 2016 for West Coast.
PICK 11 – MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jordan Gysberts
NEW SELECTION: Allen Christensen
Christensen has been much maligned throughout his career, criticised for his body shape and questioned over his work rate. Despite this, the clever forward has managed 87 games - including the 2011 premiership - and just missed out on tying with five others for Brisbane’s 2015 best and fairest award.
PICK 12 – CARLTON
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Kane Lucas
NEW SELECTION: Taylor Duryea
Duryea has played in Hawthorn’s last two flags and was unlucky to miss out on the 2013 decider. An excellent tackler and a raking kick, his efforts in the back pocket since Brent Guerra’s retirement indicate the Hawks acquired him for a bargain with pick 69 in the 2009 national draft.
PICK 13 – ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Daniel Talia
NEW SELECTION: Sam Reid
Reid comes from a strong footballing crop, following his grandfather and father’s footsteps to play at the elite level. Predominantly a key forward, he has also emerged as a ‘Mr Fix-it’ type for John Longmire over the last two seasons and is often used as a defender. Reid is a premiership player and coped admirably when handed more responsibility late in 2015 after Lance Franklin and Kurt Tippett went down.
PICK 14 – SYDNEY
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Lewis Jetta
NEW SELECTION: Ryan Bastinac
Although Bastinac endured a frustrating 2015 season in which he was in and out of Brad Scott’s side, his durability over the previous five years bodes well for a career at the Lions. His 2012 and 2013 form saw him finish eighth and sixth respectively in North Melbourne’s best and fairest award as a ball-winning, inside midfielder. Only three players from the 2009 national draft have played more games than Bastinac.
PICK 15 – WESTERN BULLDOGS
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Christian Howard
NEW SELECTION: Jamie McMillan
Bastinac pipped McMillan because of his durability, but there is little doubt McMillan is a valuable member of North Melbourne’s team when fit. He’s part of the Kangaroos leadership group, is seen as a future captain and can play on tall and small forwards.
PICK 16 – PORT ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jasper McMillian-Pittard
NEW SELECTION: Jake Melksham
Melksham did not quite deliver on his early potential at Essendon, but Melbourne’s willingness to offer the midfielder a four-year deal means he must have done something right at Bomberland. In fairness, his 2013 season proved he could deliver at the elite level. The Demons will be hoping he can rediscover this form after 114 matches wearing red and black.
PICK 17 – GEELONG
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Daniel Menzel
NEW SELECTION: Gary Rohan
Both Rohan and Menzel have struggled with injuries, although Rohan has shown enough to suggest he could be a 200-game player for the Swans. A big bodied flanker who has shown moments of great dash on the wing, Rohan’s career tally of 61 games is probably not a big enough sample size to accurately predict what sort of player he could become, although the signs are positive.
Gary Rohan celebrates a goal. Picture. Phil HillyardSource: News Corp Australia
PICK 18 – MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Luke Tapscott
NEW SELECTION: Dylan Roberton
Roberton began his career at Fremantle before requesting a trade to Victoria. He flourished under Scott Watters in 2013 as a running half-back and, despite an persistent foot injury in 2014, returned an even better player under Alan Richardson’s tutelage in 2015. He’s evasive, skilful and knows how to find the footy. As the Saints continue their rebuild, expect Roberton to spend more time on the wing and even through the midfield.
PICK 19 – RICHMOND
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Ben Griffiths
NEW SELECTION: Brad Sheppard
Sheppard settled at half-back in 2014 and prospered in that role this year, playing all 25 games and finishing sixth in West Coast’s best and fairest award. Before 2014, the East Fremantle product had been thrown around all over the place, spending time up forward and even through the midfield as well as in defence. Sheppard is a strong runner with nice skills. To say he is a role player is probably understating his worth, but nor is he a star.
PICK 20 – FREMANTLE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Nat Fyfe
NEW SELECTION: Jasper Pittard
Pittard has played 76 games since debuting in 2011. He formed a strong partnership with fellow defender Matthew Broadbent across half-back in 2014 and will feature prominently in Port Adelaide’s best and fairest vote count on December 5 after an excellent 2015 season. He loves to run and bounce and is as damaging offensively as he is resolute defensively.
Theres about 4 players on here that should be above Sheppard. I have feeling in 2 years time, shep will enter the top 10.
PICK 1 (priority) – MELBOURNe
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Tom Scully
NEW SELECTION: Nat Fyfe
This year’s Brownlow medallist is a no-brainer for pick one. Undersized and clearly undervalued six years ago, Fyfe has risen to heights perhaps only Fremantle could have predicted when they called out his name with pick 20 in November 2009. Not only did he win this year’s Brownlow Medal, but he was awarded the Leigh Matthews Trophy for the AFL’s Most Valuable Player in 2014 and 2015. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but Fremantle pulled off arguably the greatest steal in draft history by selecting Fyfe – who is likely to be remembered as a generational player when his career winds up. Without him, this already mediocre draft would be considerably weaker.
Nat Fyfe playing in the First XVIII for Aquinas 2008 as a 17-year-old.Source: Supplied
PICK 2 – MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jack Trengove
NEW SELECTION: Dustin Martin
No player from the 2009 draft has played more games than Dustin Martin, who has become an integral component in Richmond’s highly credentialed engine room. He has finished on the podium in his club’s best and fairest award four times and is one of the most damaging ball users in the competition. The 24-year-old has also averaged at least one goal per outing in each of the last five seasons, further underlying his value.
PICK 3 – RICHMOND
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Dustin Martin
NEW SELECTION: Jack Gunston
Gunston is not only a three-time premiership player, he also has played crucial roles in each decider. Adelaide traded him after just 14 games him (for picks 24, 46 and 64) and will be ruing the decision given Gunston’s ability to produce on the big stage. In the 2013 Grand Final he finished second to Brian Lake in Norm Smith Medal voting, booting four goals. His 2015 premiership performance was just as significant, kicking another four majors in Hawthorn’s big win over West Coast.
PICK 4 – FREMANTLE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Anthony Morabito
NEW SELECTION: Daniel Talia
The Rising Star winner in 2012 and one of the AFL’s finest key defenders, Talia immediately settled in to Adelaide’s back six as 20-year-old. He has missed just two games in the last three seasons and was named at full-back in the 2014 All-Australian team.
PICK 5 – NORTH MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Ben Cunnington
NEW SELECTION: Ben Stratton
Hawthorn’s recent draft record is exemplified by its acquisition of Ben Stratton, who has played 117 games since being drafted with pick No. 46 in 2009. Consistency is his hallmark and, although he is in many respects unappreciated outside of the Hawks, his ability to play tall and short means he is one of the first picked every week.
PICK 6 – SYDNEY
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Gary Rohan
NEW SELECTION: Ben Cunnington
Cunnington slides one spot but there is no doubting he has forged an excellent career at Arden Street. He was North Melbourne’s best and fairest in 2014 and has added more strings to his bow in recent years, including the ability to play as a strong - albeit undersized - marking forward. The 24-year-old from Cobden in country Victoria is also one of the AFL’s most effective clearance players.
PICK 7 – WEST COAST
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Brad Sheppard
NEW SELECTION: Mitch Duncan
Having signed on to the end of 2018 this time last year, Duncan shapes as one of Geelong’s most important players over the next few seasons. He’s versatile, highly dependable and boasts premiership experience dating back to 2011. Although injury ruined his 2015 campaign, he managed 60 consecutive games before then.
PICK 8 – PORT ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: John Butcher
NEW SELECTION: Jake Carlisle
In the news for all the wrong reasons last month after requesting a trade from Essendon, Carlisle’s enormous potential is clear. He is likely to create a niche for himself at the Saints as a key defender, although his eight-goal haul against the Bulldogs in 2014 demonstrated he is far more than a one trick pony. In the right environment Carlisle could be anything and St Kilda fans will be praying he delivers given what the club has invested in him.
St Kilda’s first day of pre-season training at Albert Park lake. Jake Carlisle chats to Alan Richardson. Pic: Michael Klein.Source: News Corp Australia
PICK 9 – PORT ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Andrew Moore
NEW SELECTION: Tom Scully
It is difficult not to judge Scully harshly because of his lofty reputation before Melbourne selected him with pick one. In reality the left footer is a durable and at times prolific AFL player. He finished third in GWS’s best and fairest award in 2013 and shares the vice captaincy duties with 2015 best and fairest Heath Shaw. He may not be the player many recruiters believed he would be, but Scully is nevertheless a valuable asset to a developing Giants side.
PICK 10 – ESSENDON
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jake Melksham
NEW SELECTION: Lewis Jetta
Best remembered for his ‘main event’ sprint down the MCG wing ahead of Cyril Rioli, Jetta gets bumped up to number 10 largely because of his stellar 2012 campaign in which his 45-goal tally was more than any other Swan. He was unlucky not to be named in the All-Australian team that year, but still boasts a premiership medallion. A couple of leaner seasons have followed, although Jetta still has the ability to break a game open with a dashing run or a miraculous goal. Time will tell whether he can rediscover his 2012 form in 2016 for West Coast.
PICK 11 – MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jordan Gysberts
NEW SELECTION: Allen Christensen
Christensen has been much maligned throughout his career, criticised for his body shape and questioned over his work rate. Despite this, the clever forward has managed 87 games - including the 2011 premiership - and just missed out on tying with five others for Brisbane’s 2015 best and fairest award.
PICK 12 – CARLTON
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Kane Lucas
NEW SELECTION: Taylor Duryea
Duryea has played in Hawthorn’s last two flags and was unlucky to miss out on the 2013 decider. An excellent tackler and a raking kick, his efforts in the back pocket since Brent Guerra’s retirement indicate the Hawks acquired him for a bargain with pick 69 in the 2009 national draft.
PICK 13 – ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Daniel Talia
NEW SELECTION: Sam Reid
Reid comes from a strong footballing crop, following his grandfather and father’s footsteps to play at the elite level. Predominantly a key forward, he has also emerged as a ‘Mr Fix-it’ type for John Longmire over the last two seasons and is often used as a defender. Reid is a premiership player and coped admirably when handed more responsibility late in 2015 after Lance Franklin and Kurt Tippett went down.
PICK 14 – SYDNEY
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Lewis Jetta
NEW SELECTION: Ryan Bastinac
Although Bastinac endured a frustrating 2015 season in which he was in and out of Brad Scott’s side, his durability over the previous five years bodes well for a career at the Lions. His 2012 and 2013 form saw him finish eighth and sixth respectively in North Melbourne’s best and fairest award as a ball-winning, inside midfielder. Only three players from the 2009 national draft have played more games than Bastinac.
PICK 15 – WESTERN BULLDOGS
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Christian Howard
NEW SELECTION: Jamie McMillan
Bastinac pipped McMillan because of his durability, but there is little doubt McMillan is a valuable member of North Melbourne’s team when fit. He’s part of the Kangaroos leadership group, is seen as a future captain and can play on tall and small forwards.
PICK 16 – PORT ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jasper McMillian-Pittard
NEW SELECTION: Jake Melksham
Melksham did not quite deliver on his early potential at Essendon, but Melbourne’s willingness to offer the midfielder a four-year deal means he must have done something right at Bomberland. In fairness, his 2013 season proved he could deliver at the elite level. The Demons will be hoping he can rediscover this form after 114 matches wearing red and black.
PICK 17 – GEELONG
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Daniel Menzel
NEW SELECTION: Gary Rohan
Both Rohan and Menzel have struggled with injuries, although Rohan has shown enough to suggest he could be a 200-game player for the Swans. A big bodied flanker who has shown moments of great dash on the wing, Rohan’s career tally of 61 games is probably not a big enough sample size to accurately predict what sort of player he could become, although the signs are positive.
Gary Rohan celebrates a goal. Picture. Phil HillyardSource: News Corp Australia
PICK 18 – MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Luke Tapscott
NEW SELECTION: Dylan Roberton
Roberton began his career at Fremantle before requesting a trade to Victoria. He flourished under Scott Watters in 2013 as a running half-back and, despite an persistent foot injury in 2014, returned an even better player under Alan Richardson’s tutelage in 2015. He’s evasive, skilful and knows how to find the footy. As the Saints continue their rebuild, expect Roberton to spend more time on the wing and even through the midfield.
PICK 19 – RICHMOND
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Ben Griffiths
NEW SELECTION: Brad Sheppard
Sheppard settled at half-back in 2014 and prospered in that role this year, playing all 25 games and finishing sixth in West Coast’s best and fairest award. Before 2014, the East Fremantle product had been thrown around all over the place, spending time up forward and even through the midfield as well as in defence. Sheppard is a strong runner with nice skills. To say he is a role player is probably understating his worth, but nor is he a star.
PICK 20 – FREMANTLE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Nat Fyfe
NEW SELECTION: Jasper Pittard
Pittard has played 76 games since debuting in 2011. He formed a strong partnership with fellow defender Matthew Broadbent across half-back in 2014 and will feature prominently in Port Adelaide’s best and fairest vote count on December 5 after an excellent 2015 season. He loves to run and bounce and is as damaging offensively as he is resolute defensively.
Theres about 4 players on here that should be above Sheppard. I have feeling in 2 years time, shep will enter the top 10.
jetta?
No ... Jetta is too good to train this early plus the Swans finished pretty late in the season , later then Redden and Giles respective clubs .
I would say redden too.
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I would argue that no new player is "good enough" to warrant training later.
You show up to a new job, you have a point too prove.
Almost a clean slate and reputation counts for very little.
You show up to a new job, you have a point too prove.
Almost a clean slate and reputation counts for very little.
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