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Brayden Hackett
Ht – 181 Wt - 67
Coming into the Champs I had heard nothing of Hackett and it took a couple of games for me to really pick up on him. It was when I saw him live that I realised how much of a gem this kid could be. He is an inside mid who is very undeveloped at the moment but managed to hold his own very nicely in a very undermanned WA midfield. WA had a few “names” in their midfield who were up for selection this year but Hackett outplayed every one of them.
I like his work around the clearances. He is always on the move and will fly in and attack the contests. He moves through traffic really nicely and has good clean hands. He has good spatial awareness in the clearances and pretty good body strength for such a slight frame. His hands are quick and he makes decent use of the ball when he wins it on the inside.
One of the things which impressed me live was how much ground he covered. He worked hard forward and back and was always around it and where he needed to be. He was working when other bigger names had stopped and let their heads drop. His defensive chase is good and he can create turnovers in the open field.
When he gets the ball in a bit of space he has some class about him and will take good options and hit them. He spreads pretty well and whilst he is not a ball magnet he gets enough of the ball. There will need to be a bit of work on his spread immediately after the contest. With that said he seems to have a good feel for the game and looks to be a natural footballer with a high football IQ. He will get out and bounce the ball when he has the chance and is a nice deliverer into 50. In the WAFL Colts he averaged 20 disposals, 4 tackles and 4 clearances a game. At the Champs he only got it 15 times per game but I do not think he was in the middle for all of the games he played.
I was a bit disappointed with his testing at the Combine. Not unexpectedly he tested very well in the 3km run (in the top 5 overall) at just over 13 minutes but the rest was pretty disappointing. He is a country boy and might not have trained for the testing like the others but I was expecting better. His beep was okay at 14.3 but again I did expect better. His 20m and agility testing were very disappointing for a guy who plays with reasonable pace and elusiveness.
Hackett is a player who I think could really blossom in an AFL environment if he can deal with the training load. He has a lot of natural talent and feel for the game and if he could get his physical attributes up to the level they could be I think he could easily be one of the best players to come out of this draft. The ceiling is very high for him but then so is the floor which I why he is so far down most mock drafts. He is physically behind most others, did not test well and has not shown the consistent great play making ability to make him a must draft. I would certainly be prepared to take a punt on him if I was picking about this stage but I could understand teams letting someone else take the risk.
Ht – 181 Wt - 67
Coming into the Champs I had heard nothing of Hackett and it took a couple of games for me to really pick up on him. It was when I saw him live that I realised how much of a gem this kid could be. He is an inside mid who is very undeveloped at the moment but managed to hold his own very nicely in a very undermanned WA midfield. WA had a few “names” in their midfield who were up for selection this year but Hackett outplayed every one of them.
I like his work around the clearances. He is always on the move and will fly in and attack the contests. He moves through traffic really nicely and has good clean hands. He has good spatial awareness in the clearances and pretty good body strength for such a slight frame. His hands are quick and he makes decent use of the ball when he wins it on the inside.
One of the things which impressed me live was how much ground he covered. He worked hard forward and back and was always around it and where he needed to be. He was working when other bigger names had stopped and let their heads drop. His defensive chase is good and he can create turnovers in the open field.
When he gets the ball in a bit of space he has some class about him and will take good options and hit them. He spreads pretty well and whilst he is not a ball magnet he gets enough of the ball. There will need to be a bit of work on his spread immediately after the contest. With that said he seems to have a good feel for the game and looks to be a natural footballer with a high football IQ. He will get out and bounce the ball when he has the chance and is a nice deliverer into 50. In the WAFL Colts he averaged 20 disposals, 4 tackles and 4 clearances a game. At the Champs he only got it 15 times per game but I do not think he was in the middle for all of the games he played.
I was a bit disappointed with his testing at the Combine. Not unexpectedly he tested very well in the 3km run (in the top 5 overall) at just over 13 minutes but the rest was pretty disappointing. He is a country boy and might not have trained for the testing like the others but I was expecting better. His beep was okay at 14.3 but again I did expect better. His 20m and agility testing were very disappointing for a guy who plays with reasonable pace and elusiveness.
Hackett is a player who I think could really blossom in an AFL environment if he can deal with the training load. He has a lot of natural talent and feel for the game and if he could get his physical attributes up to the level they could be I think he could easily be one of the best players to come out of this draft. The ceiling is very high for him but then so is the floor which I why he is so far down most mock drafts. He is physically behind most others, did not test well and has not shown the consistent great play making ability to make him a must draft. I would certainly be prepared to take a punt on him if I was picking about this stage but I could understand teams letting someone else take the risk.
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Seems to be the popular pick in mock drafts to give us Daniel Rioli for our first pick. Any real reason for this? I don't think he's the one we'll be taking/should take.
Not so sure about your position. Personally I'm coming around to him. If he can take the discipline and put on some size he might have some x-factor that we lack. We probably have enough soldiers to do the grunt work.
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Actually our picks around this pick historically have not always been "safe".
2014 - pick 32: Tom Lamb
2013 - pick 31: Malcolm Karpany
2010 - pick 26: Jack Darling
2009 - pick 22: Gerrick Weedon
2007 - pick 20: Tony Notte
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Look at our first picks those years though. Duggan, Sheed, Gaff, Sheppard, Masten. Mainly fairly safe/secure picks. Could even make a case that Sheppard was more conservative than picking Jetta.
Have all turned out well though so happy with our early drafting. Hopefully we can do the same with a later first pick this time.
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Yeah that's what I was trying to get at, first pick is usually safe as houses and it gets more Crazy Vozzo from there.
At the time do you think Naitanui was the conservative option or Rich?
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That's one example against a fair few, to be fair. I think the club was fairly secure in the knowledge that Naitanui was going to develop into a good player. Carlton would have taken him at 1 had his birthday been slightly different so it wasn't just a confidence that we had.
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I couldn't disagree with this more. I watched 5/6 of Swans games, mainly towards the end of the year, but inside mid is not a description that would have come to mind, tbh.......
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Nic Nat just had way too much atlheticsm and upside not to pick him.
Like best/most influential player in the comp potential.
It wasn't an argument, just a question.
Nic nat was the best available talent then. Was touted as the number 1 pick for alot of 2008 aswell. We owe melbourne big time for taking jack watts. Im just hoping someone high up the order slips like leverde did last season. I have a sneaky suspicion that Ah chee will slip to the second round but most likley gone before us. Would love a clarke, bonner or hibbered to slip to us (dreaming tho).
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Scully, Reid, Bastinac, MacMillan, Melksham, Rohan, Roberton all ahead of Shep. Interesting.2009 Draft re-drafted by the foxfooty "pro's"
PICK 1 (priority) – MELBOURNe
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Tom Scully
NEW SELECTION: Nat Fyfe
This year’s Brownlow medallist is a no-brainer for pick one. Undersized and clearly undervalued six years ago, Fyfe has risen to heights perhaps only Fremantle could have predicted when they called out his name with pick 20 in November 2009. Not only did he win this year’s Brownlow Medal, but he was awarded the Leigh Matthews Trophy for the AFL’s Most Valuable Player in 2014 and 2015. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but Fremantle pulled off arguably the greatest steal in draft history by selecting Fyfe – who is likely to be remembered as a generational player when his career winds up. Without him, this already mediocre draft would be considerably weaker.
Nat Fyfe playing in the First XVIII for Aquinas 2008 as a 17-year-old.Source: Supplied
PICK 2 – MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jack Trengove
NEW SELECTION: Dustin Martin
No player from the 2009 draft has played more games than Dustin Martin, who has become an integral component in Richmond’s highly credentialed engine room. He has finished on the podium in his club’s best and fairest award four times and is one of the most damaging ball users in the competition. The 24-year-old has also averaged at least one goal per outing in each of the last five seasons, further underlying his value.
PICK 3 – RICHMOND
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Dustin Martin
NEW SELECTION: Jack Gunston
Gunston is not only a three-time premiership player, he also has played crucial roles in each decider. Adelaide traded him after just 14 games him (for picks 24, 46 and 64) and will be ruing the decision given Gunston’s ability to produce on the big stage. In the 2013 Grand Final he finished second to Brian Lake in Norm Smith Medal voting, booting four goals. His 2015 premiership performance was just as significant, kicking another four majors in Hawthorn’s big win over West Coast.
PICK 4 – FREMANTLE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Anthony Morabito
NEW SELECTION: Daniel Talia
The Rising Star winner in 2012 and one of the AFL’s finest key defenders, Talia immediately settled in to Adelaide’s back six as 20-year-old. He has missed just two games in the last three seasons and was named at full-back in the 2014 All-Australian team.
PICK 5 – NORTH MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Ben Cunnington
NEW SELECTION: Ben Stratton
Hawthorn’s recent draft record is exemplified by its acquisition of Ben Stratton, who has played 117 games since being drafted with pick No. 46 in 2009. Consistency is his hallmark and, although he is in many respects unappreciated outside of the Hawks, his ability to play tall and short means he is one of the first picked every week.
PICK 6 – SYDNEY
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Gary Rohan
NEW SELECTION: Ben Cunnington
Cunnington slides one spot but there is no doubting he has forged an excellent career at Arden Street. He was North Melbourne’s best and fairest in 2014 and has added more strings to his bow in recent years, including the ability to play as a strong - albeit undersized - marking forward. The 24-year-old from Cobden in country Victoria is also one of the AFL’s most effective clearance players.
PICK 7 – WEST COAST
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Brad Sheppard
NEW SELECTION: Mitch Duncan
Having signed on to the end of 2018 this time last year, Duncan shapes as one of Geelong’s most important players over the next few seasons. He’s versatile, highly dependable and boasts premiership experience dating back to 2011. Although injury ruined his 2015 campaign, he managed 60 consecutive games before then.
PICK 8 – PORT ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: John Butcher
NEW SELECTION: Jake Carlisle
In the news for all the wrong reasons last month after requesting a trade from Essendon, Carlisle’s enormous potential is clear. He is likely to create a niche for himself at the Saints as a key defender, although his eight-goal haul against the Bulldogs in 2014 demonstrated he is far more than a one trick pony. In the right environment Carlisle could be anything and St Kilda fans will be praying he delivers given what the club has invested in him.
St Kilda’s first day of pre-season training at Albert Park lake. Jake Carlisle chats to Alan Richardson. Pic: Michael Klein.Source: News Corp Australia
PICK 9 – PORT ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Andrew Moore
NEW SELECTION: Tom Scully
It is difficult not to judge Scully harshly because of his lofty reputation before Melbourne selected him with pick one. In reality the left footer is a durable and at times prolific AFL player. He finished third in GWS’s best and fairest award in 2013 and shares the vice captaincy duties with 2015 best and fairest Heath Shaw. He may not be the player many recruiters believed he would be, but Scully is nevertheless a valuable asset to a developing Giants side.
PICK 10 – ESSENDON
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jake Melksham
NEW SELECTION: Lewis Jetta
Best remembered for his ‘main event’ sprint down the MCG wing ahead of Cyril Rioli, Jetta gets bumped up to number 10 largely because of his stellar 2012 campaign in which his 45-goal tally was more than any other Swan. He was unlucky not to be named in the All-Australian team that year, but still boasts a premiership medallion. A couple of leaner seasons have followed, although Jetta still has the ability to break a game open with a dashing run or a miraculous goal. Time will tell whether he can rediscover his 2012 form in 2016 for West Coast.
PICK 11 – MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jordan Gysberts
NEW SELECTION: Allen Christensen
Christensen has been much maligned throughout his career, criticised for his body shape and questioned over his work rate. Despite this, the clever forward has managed 87 games - including the 2011 premiership - and just missed out on tying with five others for Brisbane’s 2015 best and fairest award.
PICK 12 – CARLTON
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Kane Lucas
NEW SELECTION: Taylor Duryea
Duryea has played in Hawthorn’s last two flags and was unlucky to miss out on the 2013 decider. An excellent tackler and a raking kick, his efforts in the back pocket since Brent Guerra’s retirement indicate the Hawks acquired him for a bargain with pick 69 in the 2009 national draft.
PICK 13 – ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Daniel Talia
NEW SELECTION: Sam Reid
Reid comes from a strong footballing crop, following his grandfather and father’s footsteps to play at the elite level. Predominantly a key forward, he has also emerged as a ‘Mr Fix-it’ type for John Longmire over the last two seasons and is often used as a defender. Reid is a premiership player and coped admirably when handed more responsibility late in 2015 after Lance Franklin and Kurt Tippett went down.
PICK 14 – SYDNEY
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Lewis Jetta
NEW SELECTION: Ryan Bastinac
Although Bastinac endured a frustrating 2015 season in which he was in and out of Brad Scott’s side, his durability over the previous five years bodes well for a career at the Lions. His 2012 and 2013 form saw him finish eighth and sixth respectively in North Melbourne’s best and fairest award as a ball-winning, inside midfielder. Only three players from the 2009 national draft have played more games than Bastinac.
PICK 15 – WESTERN BULLDOGS
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Christian Howard
NEW SELECTION: Jamie McMillan
Bastinac pipped McMillan because of his durability, but there is little doubt McMillan is a valuable member of North Melbourne’s team when fit. He’s part of the Kangaroos leadership group, is seen as a future captain and can play on tall and small forwards.
PICK 16 – PORT ADELAIDE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Jasper McMillian-Pittard
NEW SELECTION: Jake Melksham
Melksham did not quite deliver on his early potential at Essendon, but Melbourne’s willingness to offer the midfielder a four-year deal means he must have done something right at Bomberland. In fairness, his 2013 season proved he could deliver at the elite level. The Demons will be hoping he can rediscover this form after 114 matches wearing red and black.
PICK 17 – GEELONG
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Daniel Menzel
NEW SELECTION: Gary Rohan
Both Rohan and Menzel have struggled with injuries, although Rohan has shown enough to suggest he could be a 200-game player for the Swans. A big bodied flanker who has shown moments of great dash on the wing, Rohan’s career tally of 61 games is probably not a big enough sample size to accurately predict what sort of player he could become, although the signs are positive.
Gary Rohan celebrates a goal. Picture. Phil HillyardSource: News Corp Australia
PICK 18 – MELBOURNE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Luke Tapscott
NEW SELECTION: Dylan Roberton
Roberton began his career at Fremantle before requesting a trade to Victoria. He flourished under Scott Watters in 2013 as a running half-back and, despite an persistent foot injury in 2014, returned an even better player under Alan Richardson’s tutelage in 2015. He’s evasive, skilful and knows how to find the footy. As the Saints continue their rebuild, expect Roberton to spend more time on the wing and even through the midfield.
PICK 19 – RICHMOND
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Ben Griffiths
NEW SELECTION: Brad Sheppard
Sheppard settled at half-back in 2014 and prospered in that role this year, playing all 25 games and finishing sixth in West Coast’s best and fairest award. Before 2014, the East Fremantle product had been thrown around all over the place, spending time up forward and even through the midfield as well as in defence. Sheppard is a strong runner with nice skills. To say he is a role player is probably understating his worth, but nor is he a star.
PICK 20 – FREMANTLE
ORIGINAL SELECTION: Nat Fyfe
NEW SELECTION: Jasper Pittard
Pittard has played 76 games since debuting in 2011. He formed a strong partnership with fellow defender Matthew Broadbent across half-back in 2014 and will feature prominently in Port Adelaide’s best and fairest vote count on December 5 after an excellent 2015 season. He loves to run and bounce and is as damaging offensively as he is resolute defensively.
Theres about 4 players on here that should be above Sheppard. I have feeling in 2 years time, shep will enter the top 10.
By interesting do you mean shitty journalism?
i would have ried and maybe scully ahead but not the others. To be honest this is sheps only good year (but a very good year). The rest is just shiity journalisism. its a bit like that Tiarne chick that admitted to forgetting about sheed when she wrote the 2013 re- draft
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have a look at her re-drafts, most of em are good. just bit disappointing she didnt have sheed in the top 10 of the 2013 draft.
Re-watched Rioli's highlights and i have some what changed my mind (even tho its only a 5 mins snapshot of him). we need a few flashy types and at this stage we only have jetta, nic nat and karpany to an extent. Rioli really turned the game on in the second quarter for NT in that high light and its very much like cyril in a sense. Daniel as good endurance as well and could possibly be developed to play wing more regularly.
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Surely you're not implying slack journalism by The West? As if that would ever happen (excepting pages 1 through ~100).
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