List Mgmt. Trade & F/A - 2018/2019 - Part 2!

[vicparksfinest]

I really had not thought about Rough, but it sounds like a great idea, costs nothing, the leadership he will give and direction for our young guys up forward will be amazing.

Cox will benefit from it more than anyone.

Such an attractive idea, we should focus on getting that done, and go to the draft with our picks. There are no good trade prospects if May will cost as much as being given reported.

Hombsch could be one to look at as insurance if we loose Darce.
Operation GetRough

 

[bungwahl]

If Moore does go to Sydney I'd love to have Luke Parker in Black & White if the stories about him being shopped around are true. Straight swap?

Tom Harley quashed the Parker rumours already saying Sydney "won't be trading him under any circumstances". Also a straight swap is dream land

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Tom Harley quashed the Parker rumours already saying Sydney "won't be trading him under any circumstances". Also a straight swap is dream land

yeah you're right, we'd need Gary Rohan as a sweetener.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

I rather we chased :

Hombsch
Lesile
Mohr
Collins
Keath
D.Howard
S.Frost


Than give up 2 first round picks for May.
I understand May at his best is an All-Australian KPD. But with Howe, Schaz, Maynard, Dunn and maybe Moore- we already have a lot of talent in the back half. We basically just need Nathan Brown of 2010. Shut down the monster forward.

Hypothetically, we could acquire these players with a pick between 25-50.

Hombsch has been shown the door.

Lesile showed promising signs last year. I really liked him. He’s the type who could really thrive under Dunn’s guidance.

Tim Mohr. He’s the GWS backup. Age is the issue.

Sam Collins could be picked up in the draft. Should have been picked up last year.

Alex Keath will struggle to find a game in Adelaide’s best 22. Showed promising signs last year. Can hold down a KPF.

Dougal Howard. I personally would be raiding Ports list. I think they’re on a downward slope. Their list is just carrying too many hit or miss players.
Watts, Motlop, Wingard, Dixon, Rockliff

Sam Frost is my personal favourite. He knows he won’t be playing if Lever was in the team. He’s got good agility and a decent boot. Melbourne have 2 KPD’s developing. He’s probably expendable to them. We do great with Melbourne players. He would fit in nicely with Howe & Dunn.

If we can’t acquire May for our first round pick. I don’t want him. Similar to Tom Lynch, if we didn’t acquire him as a FA. I didn’t want him.

At best, we trade our first pick this year, and second next year for May. But I would expect a few later picks in return to help us with our NGA/Father-son prospects.

 

[neilk]

Maybe so. But he ain't worth more than that especially if he can be got for free next year. You gotta know when to fold sometimes.

The compensation pick they’ll get next year would be better than anything we would be offering this year.

 

[vicparksfinest]

I rather we chased :

Hombsch
Lesile
Mohr
Collins
Keath
D.Howard
S.Frost


Than give up 2 first round picks for May.
I understand May at his best is an All-Australian KPD. But with Howe, Schaz, Maynard, Dunn and maybe Moore- we already have a lot of talent in the back half. We basically just need Nathan Brown of 2010. Shut down the monster forward.

Hypothetically, we could acquire these players with a pick between 25-50.

Hombsch has been shown the door.

Lesile showed promising signs last year. I really liked him. He’s the type who could really thrive under Dunn’s guidance.

Tim Mohr. He’s the GWS backup. Age is the issue.

Sam Collins could be picked up in the draft. Should have been picked up last year.

Alex Keath will struggle to find a game in Adelaide’s best 22. Showed promising signs last year. Can hold down a KPF.

Dougal Howard. I personally would be raiding Ports list. I think they’re on a downward slope. Their list is just carrying too many hit or miss players.
Watts, Motlop, Wingard, Dixon, Rockliff

Sam Frost is my personal favourite. He knows he won’t be playing if Lever was in the team. He’s got good agility and a decent boot. Melbourne have 2 KPD’s developing. He’s probably expendable to them. We do great with Melbourne players. He would fit in nicely with Howe & Dunn.

If we can’t acquire May for our first round pick. I don’t want him. Similar to Tom Lynch, if we didn’t acquire him as a FA. I didn’t want him.

At best, we trade our first pick this year, and second next year for May. But I would expect a few later picks in return to help us with our NGA/Father-son prospects.

Frost is a really smart one, and he's been looking great recently.

 

[Kirby]

The compensation pick they’ll get next year would be better than anything we would be offering this year.

Absolutely true, but their problem is that if May won't commit to them and then publicly says he wants out, are they going to be in a position to keep him?

They may have to take the best that they can get. Obviously our first pick will be offered and I'd think we'd have to throw something more in.

 

[Quicky]

The compensation pick they’ll get next year would be better than anything we would be offering this year.

I know. I'd hold tight if I were GC. But they may want to get rid of the speculation and a player that doesn't want to play there for the next year. That could be toxic for the playing environment. It's already a pretty toxic place when you think of how the Tom Lynch departure went down.

 

[domin8tors]

Draft plan, i'm basing this on the more likely fact that Moore is leaving and that given we were chasing Lynch means we have some available cash .

Assumptions : we have 1st round, 2nd round, 3rd round, 4th round picks
we trade Moore for a 1st rounder,
we trade Fasolo for a late 2nd likely 3rd rounder.

Trade : our first round pick for 2 later 1st round picks or late 1st rnd pick early 2nd rounder
trade 4th round pick for Roughhead.

F/A : we have the cash i'd be making a play for Andrew Gaff. pendles is nearing the end and Gaff fits or midfield profile.

Draft : use our early 1st round pick on best available. " hopefully key back / key forward "
use the previously traded late 1st rnd pick and early 2nd rounder on the touted top 20 picks of F/S Kelly and Quanor. whom are both defenders

use the remainder of our 2nd and 3rd rounders on forwards and backs.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Draft plan, i'm basing this on the more likely fact that Moore is leaving and that given we were chasing Lynch means we have some available cash .

Assumptions : we have 1st round, 2nd round, 3rd round, 4th round picks
we trade Moore for a 1st rounder,
we trade Fasolo for a late 2nd likely 3rd rounder.

Trade : our first round pick for 2 later 1st round picks or late 1st rnd pick early 2nd rounder
trade 4th round pick for Roughhead.

F/A : we have the cash i'd be making a play for Andrew Gaff. pendles is nearing the end and Gaff fits or midfield profile.

Draft : use our early 1st round pick on best available. " hopefully key back / key forward "
use the previously traded late 1st rnd pick and early 2nd rounder on the touted top 20 picks of F/S Kelly and Quanor. whom are both defenders

use the remainder of our 2nd and 3rd rounders on forwards and backs.

Fasolo is a Free Agent

 

[domin8tors]

Fasolo is a Free Agent

ah, we would then you think get a 3rd round compo pick

EDIT : actually given Carlton pay overs they will probably offer Fasolo 1Mill+ per year on 5 years and we will get a 1st rounder lol

 

[Baltimore Jack]

ah, we would then you think get a 3rd round compo pick

EDIT : actually given Carlton pay overs they will probably offer Fasolo 1Mill+ per year on 5 years and we will get a 1st rounder lol

At best my guess would mid to late 3rd

 

[Unknown Identity]

Draft plan, i'm basing this on the more likely fact that Moore is leaving and that given we were chasing Lynch means we have some available cash .

Assumptions : we have 1st round, 2nd round, 3rd round, 4th round picks
we trade Moore for a 1st rounder,
we trade Fasolo for a late 2nd likely 3rd rounder.

Trade : our first round pick for 2 later 1st round picks or late 1st rnd pick early 2nd rounder
trade 4th round pick for Roughhead.

F/A : we have the cash i'd be making a play for Andrew Gaff. pendles is nearing the end and Gaff fits or midfield profile.

Draft : use our early 1st round pick on best available. " hopefully key back / key forward "
use the previously traded late 1st rnd pick and early 2nd rounder on the touted top 20 picks of F/S Kelly and Quanor. whom are both defenders

use the remainder of our 2nd and 3rd rounders on forwards and backs.

And we don't have a 2nd round pick, we gave it up for Murray! That worked out a treat

 

[Unknown Identity]

Seems our best bet would be to convince May to leave as a free agent next year, and i would go as hard as possible after Lachie Whitfield next year also.

See if we can pry him away a year before he becomes a restricted free agent, would gladly pay overs for him.

 

[DaVe86]

I rather we chased :

Hombsch
Lesile
Mohr
Collins
Keath
D.Howard
S.Frost


Than give up 2 first round picks for May.
I understand May at his best is an All-Australian KPD. But with Howe, Schaz, Maynard, Dunn and maybe Moore- we already have a lot of talent in the back half. We basically just need Nathan Brown of 2010. Shut down the monster forward.

Hypothetically, we could acquire these players with a pick between 25-50.

Hombsch has been shown the door.

Lesile showed promising signs last year. I really liked him. He’s the type who could really thrive under Dunn’s guidance.

Tim Mohr. He’s the GWS backup. Age is the issue.

Sam Collins could be picked up in the draft. Should have been picked up last year.

Alex Keath will struggle to find a game in Adelaide’s best 22. Showed promising signs last year. Can hold down a KPF.

Dougal Howard. I personally would be raiding Ports list. I think they’re on a downward slope. Their list is just carrying too many hit or miss players.
Watts, Motlop, Wingard, Dixon, Rockliff

Sam Frost is my personal favourite. He knows he won’t be playing if Lever was in the team. He’s got good agility and a decent boot. Melbourne have 2 KPD’s developing. He’s probably expendable to them. We do great with Melbourne players. He would fit in nicely with Howe & Dunn.

If we can’t acquire May for our first round pick. I don’t want him. Similar to Tom Lynch, if we didn’t acquire him as a FA. I didn’t want him.

At best, we trade our first pick this year, and second next year for May. But I would expect a few later picks in return to help us with our NGA/Father-son prospects.

I disagree.

I subscribe to theory that your KPP's need to be more than just makeshift. Richmond are light on for talls, but they have the Coleman medallist at one end, and the AA full back at the other. West Coast is another example with Kennedy and McGovern. There's no coincidence they are 1st and 2nd on the ladder.

It's where I think we'll fall short this year. We just aren't solid enough in the key stocks. It's why we have beat all the non-finallists, but only 1 finalist. Our midfield is good enough to win games on its own and keep us in the hunt. But we need that extra strength in our tall stocks to go the next step. it showed in the first final where in the last quarter Kennedy was able to step up and kick 2 goals. We just didn't have a tall that was capable of taking the game by the scruff of the neck.

While it would be handy to add someone like Hombsch to the list for depth, I think we need to go all out to get the AA quality full back, as opposed to loading up on average players. Or alternatively making a big play for a power forward

I say pay the price.

But I also think we need to be keeping Moore.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

I disagree.

I subscribe to theory that your KPP's need to be more than just makeshift. Richmond are light on for talls, but they have the Coleman medallist at one end, and the AA full back at the other. West Coast is another example with Kennedy and McGovern. There's no coincidence they are 1st and 2nd on the ladder.

It's where I think we'll fall short this year. We just aren't solid enough in the key stocks. It's why we have beat all the non-finallists, but only 1 finalist. Our midfield is good enough to win games on its own and keep us in the hunt. But we need that extra strength in our tall stocks to go the next step. it showed in the first final where in the last quarter Kennedy was able to step up and kick 2 goals. We just didn't have a tall that was capable of taking the game by the scruff of the neck.

While it would be handy to add someone like Hombsch to the list for depth, I think we need to go all out to get the AA quality full back, as opposed to loading up on average players. Or alternatively making a big play for a power forward

I say pay the price.

But I also think we need to be keeping Moore.

I understand your point of view. However, Richmond have had basically no injuries, in particular to their Key backs. WCE still won games with their tall forwards missing, as they have adequate backup. We would be the same if Dunn, Schaz and Moore played. We have been tormented by injuries, especially in the back-half.

I also don’t believe in trading 2 first round picks for any one-player. I know the Treloar trade worked out well with the acquisition of Sier.

IMO, not many players in the league are worth 2 first round picks:

Grundy
Gawn
Martin
Oliver - maybe
Cripps
Tom Mitchell
Fyfe
Josh Kelly

I couldn’t think of anyone else.
Ironically, 6 out of the 8 players I listed were all top 20 picks. Mitchell (21) was a a F/S. Gawn was pick 34.

You’re giving up the opportunity to potentially pick up 2 A-Graders. I just don’t see the value in that.

 

[Roverjg]

Doubt Langdon leaves. Highly rated by Bucks and prob not much interest from elsewhere.

Moore on the other hand....

Hawks are interested in Langdon

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[Rorzza]

Yes, you have to be an elite player to be worth two young talented players. Franklin in his mid 20's, Josh Kelly another. Personally I would consider two firsts for Cameron but i would expect something back, second round pick or best 22 player.
Adelaide paid two firsts and received a second rounder back for Gibbs, they got shafted!

 

[wicksy]

I understand your point of view. However, Richmond have had basically no injuries, in particular to their Key backs. WCE still won games with their tall forwards missing, as they have adequate backup. We would be the same if Dunn, Schaz and Moore played. We have been tormented by injuries, especially in the back-half.

I also don’t believe in trading 2 first round picks for any one-player. I know the Treloar trade worked out well with the acquisition of Sier.

IMO, not many players in the league are worth 2 first round picks:

Grundy
Gawn
Martin
Oliver - maybe
Cripps
Tom Mitchell
Fyfe
Josh Kelly

I couldn’t think of anyone else.
Ironically, 6 out of the 8 players I listed were all top 20 picks. Mitchell (21) was a a F/S. Gawn was pick 34.

You’re giving up the opportunity to potentially pick up 2 A-Graders. I just don’t see the value in that.

Oliver?
Most overrated youngster in the league. Would prefer Brayshaw over him.

 

[jackcass]

Fasolo is a Free Agent

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that before.

 

[jackcass]

Draft plan, i'm basing this on the more likely fact that Moore is leaving and that given we were chasing Lynch means we have some available cash .

Assumptions : we have 1st round, 2nd round, 3rd round, 4th round picks
we trade Moore for a 1st rounder,
we trade Fasolo for a late 2nd likely 3rd rounder.

Trade : our first round pick for 2 later 1st round picks or late 1st rnd pick early 2nd rounder
trade 4th round pick for Roughhead.

F/A : we have the cash i'd be making a play for Andrew Gaff. pendles is nearing the end and Gaff fits or midfield profile.

Draft : use our early 1st round pick on best available. " hopefully key back / key forward "
use the previously traded late 1st rnd pick and early 2nd rounder on the touted top 20 picks of F/S Kelly and Quanor. whom are both defenders

use the remainder of our 2nd and 3rd rounders on forwards and backs.

We don't have our 2nd, we have 2x 3rd round picks.

If Fas leaves we'll be talking FA compo, not a trade.

 

[Anzacday]

If Fas leaves we'll be talking FA compo, not a trade.

Depends where he goes.
Eagles, Gold Coast as an example would probably rather trade.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Dunn will be back round 1

Love the big Dunny

 

[DWil6]

Hawks are interested in Langdon

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Funny how unpopular he was at one stage, now we’d be f’d without him.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

COLLINGWOOD has to ask the question of Hawthorn’s Jarryd Roughead.

As much as a development club such as Carlton would benefit from Roughead’s leadership and football wisdom, it would be much more enticing to join a premiership contender.

And the Magpies clearly loom as the perfect home as the club searches for more marking power after missing out on Gold Coast’s Tom Lynch.

Clearly, Roughy has more good footy left in him, as we saw in the qualifying final loss to Richmond on Thursday night.

He has clean hands, he kicks straight and knows exactly where to lead, even in his final years.

And Roughead would cost virtually nothing in terms of a draft pick swap at trade time.

Like Sam Mitchell and Jordan Lewis, he would be a free hit in that regard.

Should Collingwood make a play for Jarryd Roughead? Picture: Getty Images
It seems awkward right now, just how things sit with Roughead and the Hawks.

Do they want him to hang around for next year?

It’s not altogether clear at Hawthorn, and you could understand why he may be a bit miffed about things at Waverley.

The 31-year-old played angry on Thursday night.

He’s a Hawthorn legend, but the door is clearly ajar for him to join another club, ala Mitchell, Lewis and Luke Hodge.

Roughead’s preference is to stay in brown and gold in 2019, as he has said a few times, and he is contracted for next season.

But he would be a dream get for Nathan Buckley, and Collingwood has shown it is most certainly in the premiership window.

And they clearly need Roughead’s type.

I’m never averse to get super cheap such a good character and fill in player for a position need.
So yes from me