Hot Topic Trade/Free Agency Talk 2021 edition

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Kings of Lygon said:
I cannot think of a deal for someone like Saad, with his age and position played being taken into consideration, ever being so rich. We overpaid and I don't think we really needed to.

It doesn't mean we cannot be happy with having Saad on our list, but I think Austin could have done much better for us.
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I am a huge fan of Saad, but wasn't thrilled with what we paid for him. I think we blinked when we didn't have to. BUT I do have a question for the BF board, who mostly think we got our pants pulled down....

What would you have wanted (and expected) to get for Docherty if he was traded two years ago (pre knees/cancer)?

I know they aren't the exact same player, but ballpark same level, age, experience, position.... And I think most of us would have would have thought anything less than a top 10 pick (in a highly compromised draft) would be insufficient compensation...
 

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ferrisb said:
I am a huge fan of Saad, but wasn't thrilled with what we paid for him. I think we blinked when we didn't have to. BUT I do have a question for the BF board, who mostly think we got our pants pulled down....

What would you have wanted (and expected) to get for Docherty if he was traded two years ago (pre knees/cancer)?

I know they aren't the exact same player, but ballpark same level, age, experience, position.... And I think most of us would have would have thought anything less than a top 10 pick (in a highly compromised draft) would be insufficient compensation...
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I agree, I love Saady and hope his body is good and he can have a great few years.

I think it's probably fair enough to say that we would want a deal of that level. I highly, highly doubt we would have got it is more the point though. Clubs just don't pay that much for small/medium defenders and history shows us that. Except for us of course.

As an aside, Doc had been AA and won a B&F by then too - Saad has not been either of those things as much as I rate him.
 
CFCtragic said:
Re: Cera, I think we need to think outside the box, rather than going straight to pick 6.

I would try something like Cera for McGovern with maybe something late pick wise being exchanged.

For mine Gov is an old fashion leading (Mark and Kick) forward, that was never going to thrive with the "Kick it on Harry's head and rove the crumb" style of game plan. Freo lack a reliable source of 2 -3 goals a game and I'm confident that if he was played out of the square as a leading forward, he could be that guy.

The impact to each team's salary cap, would be negligible and could be a win / win deal for both clubs. Freo could sell the WA star forward comes home, and we would be happy with the improvement in our midfield depth.

Alternately we could see if Fish or Samo are keen. We built a list of good young players but we seem to refuse to trade any of them, even though we can't play them all in their preferred positions, and without gametime they can't develop. We have to think of our list more like GWS, Geelong or Richmond and use our surplus to fill gaps, while staying in the draft to get the next Walsh or best available as future trade capital.

Anyway just my 2cents
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Cerra for McGovern would be a win/win in the same way as

Person A owns a Ferrari and wants something more practical
Person B owns a Corolla and wants something more sporty

So they swap.....Each Person gets what they want/need, right? Yes.

Win/win though? Hell no. It isn't even close to a fair deal. And adding a full tank of petrol won't make up the difference.

Note: I do love the out-of-the-box thinking though.
 
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ferrisb said:
I am a huge fan of Saad, but wasn't thrilled with what we paid for him. I think we blinked when we didn't have to. BUT I do have a question for the BF board, who mostly think we got our pants pulled down....

What would you have wanted (and expected) to get for Docherty if he was traded two years ago (pre knees/cancer)?

I know they aren't the exact same player, but ballpark same level, age, experience, position.... And I think most of us would have would have thought anything less than a top 10 pick (in a highly compromised draft) would be insufficient compensation...
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Cub Captain after TWO knee recos?
Would have been lucky to get Pick 50.
 

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Bare with me this is a possible trade scenario along the lines of GCS with very little list spots to work with this year, so if they would like to invest into a future first round next year…

It’s a chance for us to cover all basis with the Cerra trade, gaining back a first rounder from the Dogs along with a swap of future picks with the Dogs, as well as well as strengthening our draft hand this year…

This entire trade helps GCS gaining a good future first pick if they choose for a bunch of 2nd-4th round picks, which helps us gaining a host of points that can help both us and Dogs with favourable outcomes to strengthen our draft hands…

Trade 1…
Carl- Out: 2022 #6 atm 1st Rd (1751)
Carl- Ins: 19, 22, 43, 55, 58, 66 (2654)
GCS- as above ins & outs…

Trade 2…
Carl- Out: 2021 #6 (1st) & #43 (3rd)
Carl- Ins: Cerra & 2022 #45 (3rd)
Frem- as above ins and outs…

Trade 3…
Carl- Out: Petrevski-seton
Carl- Ins: 2021 #29 (2nd)
WCE- as above ins and outs…

Trade 4…
Carl- Out: 2021 #25, 29, 55, 58, 61, 66 (2027) & 2022 #25, 42 (1151)
Carl- Ins: 2021 #17 (1025) & 2022 #17 atm (1025) & #35, 53 (755)

WBD- as above ins and outs
WBD- 2021 draft hand 2027 pts (#4)
after the 20% discount it leaves them more than enough to match F/S Darcy bid in the top with spare points over…

Carl:
2021-Ins:
#6 & 43 Cerra
#17
#19
#22
2022- draft hand
#17
#35
#53
#60

SPS pick has been upgraded to an late first early second, we have upgraded to three good draft picks, have maintained a good hand for next year with any future rounds can be used for trading in players for this year…

Well maybe not completely like this but something close would be a bloody good result…
 
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FitzroyBlueBagger said:
Bare with me this is a possible trade scenario along the lines of GCS with very little list spots to work with this year, so if they would like to invest into a future first round next year…

It’s a chance for us to cover all basis with the Cerra trade, gaining back a first rounder from the Dogs along with a swap of future picks with the Dogs, as well as well as strengthening our draft hand this year…

This entire trade helps GCS gaining a good future first pick if they choose for a bunch of 2nd-4th round picks, which helps us gaining a host of points that can help both us and Dogs with favourable outcomes to strengthen our draft hands…

Trade 1…
Carl- Out: 2022 #6 atm 1st Rd (1751)
Carl- Ins: 19, 22, 43, 55, 58, 66 (2654)
GCS- as above ins & outs…

Trade 2…
Carl- Out: 2021 #6 (1st) & #43 (3rd)
Carl- Ins: Cerra & 2022 #45 (3rd)
Frem- as above ins and outs…

Trade 3…
Carl- Out: Petrevski-seton
Carl- Ins: 2021 #29 (2nd)
WCE- as above ins and outs…

Trade 4…
Carl- Out: 2021 #25, 29, 55, 58, 61, 66 (2027) & 2022 #25, 42 (1151)
Carl- Ins: 2021 #17 (1025) & 2022 #17 atm (1025) & #35, 53 (755)

WBD- as above ins and outs
WBD- 2021 draft hand 2027 pts (#4)
after the 20% discount it leaves them more than enough to match F/S Darcy bid in the top with spare points over…

Carl:
2021-Ins:
#6 & 43 Cerra
#17
#19
#22
2022- draft hand
#17
#35
#53
#60

SPS pick has been upgraded to an late first early second, we have upgraded to three good draft picks, have maintained a good hand for next year with any future rounds can be used for trading in players for this year…

Well maybe not completely like this but something close would be a bloody good result…
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No ...
 
FitzroyBlueBagger said:
Geez you read that quick…
Or just a no…
Fair enough…
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No .. it made my brain hurt, I am quite sure what you posted was entirely feasible .. but my brain went ... Its Wednesday FFS lol

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FlowersByIrene said:
No where near enough value for Cerra there from a Freo perspective.

They'll likely throw a tantrum and threaten to trade Cerra to Melbourne if we split pick #6. They'll want one of the WA KPPs
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Well if they value Clark at pick 19 and we also give them pick 22 then combined it values Cerra at pick 5 points wise. I agree it feels like a little bit below what they'd want so adding in a 4th rounder could work.
 

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