List Mgmt. Trade Period 2016 - The Live Freo Thread

[Okinakashi]

He's our Cameron Ling.

An unattractive Ginger?

 

[G Mus]

I've seen a couple of things on Twitter suggesting that ther is another high profile Hawk that could be on the move, I have heard a rumour that it is Jordan Lewis also.

His numbers didn't drop but I thought he played awful towards the end of the season, worst of their vets imo

 

[igon value]

4th midfielder picked at the Swans. About to 6th after Heeney and Mills move in.

I can't get a read on their tactics. They send Mitchell to WC where he can maybe help them win a flag. Isn't this tacitly acknowledging they are at their end of their period on top? And yet they are trading all their picks away and keeping most of their older players...

Best theory I've read is they thought they were still in the frame to compete this year and next, therefore extended the contracts of their older brigade, and their complete collapse from round 18 onwards has had them reassess. Sam Mitchell has effectively taken an 'early retirement'.

 

[Kram]

So maybe 61 for Kersten? 43 is too much..

 

[theGav56]

So maybe 61 for Kersten? 43 is too much..

And 43 for Hamling.

 

[GreatPurpleShark]

Geelong may have been keen on Ballas but they won't have the coin now, thanks to Lids and Touhy.

I think GWS are collecting junk picks for us. Part 2 of the trade may be our future third and fourth for 51, 55, 60 or what ever they dont want.

 

[Paracleet]

Best theory I've read is they thought they were still in the frame to compete this year and next, therefore extended the contracts of their older brigade, and their complete collapse from round 18 onwards has had them reassess. Sam Mitchell has effectively taken an 'early retirement'.

Makes sense sort of. Its more likely than not you would get a player not as good as Mitchell with pick 14. That's a fair enough deal.
However if they then trade away the 23 they got from us and next years first for Jaeger O'Meara and he can't return to his pre-injury levels then they will find themselves with no first round picks since 2015, a bunch of old players and midfield of Tom Mitchell, Langford and Hartung!

 

[G Mus]

Makes sense sort of. Its more likely than not you would get a player not as good as Mitchell with pick 14. That's a fair enough deal.
However if they then trade away the 23 they got from us and next years first for Jaeger O'Meara and he can't return to his pre-injury levels then they will find themselves with no first round picks since 2015, a bunch of old players and midfield of Tom Mitchell, Langford and Hartung!

It's definitely a massive gamble but a couple of recent premierships under the belt allow you to take gambles like that

 

[jerms]

Ash Browne re Hamling:

"An intriguing one, this one. On thew one hand, why leave the premiership team on the cusp on winning more in the next year or two. On the other hand, he is not certainty to be in the best 22 at the Whitten Oval next year, whereas he would be a walk-up start in Freo's best team in 2017. He's from WA and his best mate, Shane Kersten is heading to the club as well. Gut feel is that he moves."

 

[Jimmy S]

And 43 for Hamling.

Hamling is uncontracted isn't he?

 

[Dump Truck]

Ash Browne re Hamling:

"An intriguing one, this one. On thew one hand, why leave the premiership team on the cusp on winning more in the next year or two. On the other hand, he is not certainty to be in the best 22 at the Whitten Oval next year, whereas he would be a walk-up start in Freo's best team in 2017. He's from WA and his best mate, Shane Kersten is heading to the club as well. Gut feel is that he moves."

Would he though? Who'd he replace? Collins, Ibbo, Dawson, Pearce or Johnson?

 

[DaveLister]

Hamling is uncontracted isn't he?

yes

 

[Paracleet]

It's definitely a massive gamble but a couple of recent premierships under the belt allow you to take gambles like that

I think it is too risky a gamble. But in reality I suppose they are trapped within their own success and frame of reference. They can't just put their hands up and say to their fans and sponsors: 'Sorry guys we're stuffed; can't win next year. We're cleaning out and going to the draft'. Coming off a hattrick of flags they finished 3rd and made a prelim. Bit like us coming off 2015 (apart from the flags part...), I'm sure the senior coaching group and management could see we had issues, the KPI's would have shown them that, but what could we do? Say we're giving up?

 

[jerms]

Hamling is uncontracted isn't he?

Both he and Kersten are uncontracted. Still think it's unlikely we'd use the nuclear (PSD) option though.

 

[jerms]

Would he though? Who'd he replace? Collins, Ibbo, Dawson, Pearce or Johnson?

Dawson for mine (at least in terms of initial opportunities), although that's still at least one player too top-heavy.

 

[moistie]

Hawks fan here. I want to say you've done well picking up Brad Hill. He won't win too many contested balls, his tackling is suspect and he might not always fill the stat sheet.

But watching him week out you will see a player who takes pride in running his opponents (plural) into the ground. If you watch him, he provides options that are often ignored. But in doing so he pulls opposing defensive structures out of shape and opens up space and options for team mates.

He is especially noticeable at the end of quarters (and games) as the player to provide the switch option or to break the zone to receive a ball beyond the last defender.

His disposal is elite, especially at pace and he has good vision. Your forwards can expect good delivery in dangerous positions.

I'll miss him in the brown and gold, his role and abilities are severely unappreciated by many HFC supporters who won't realise what he provided the club until he's gone.

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[jerms]

Your forwards can expect good delivery in dangerous positions.

There's a first time for everything...

 

[Mr Fonebone]

Would he though? Who'd he replace? Collins, Ibbo, Dawson, Pearce or Johnson?

Definately Dawson and I would have serious doubts about how many games they get out of Johnno next year.

 

[Vintage]

Geelong last year bought in Dangerfield, Henderson, Selwood and Zac Smith as well as getting a softer draw last year and look what happened.
Next year we bring in H.Bennell, B.Hill, C.Mac, Kersten and possibly Hamling whilst losing Mayne, C.Pearce, Hannath, Mzungu and DeBoer. Plus you add in more games to Fyfe, Sandi and A.Pearce (possibly Johnson too) and we will have a softer draw then things aren't looking that bad.
Plus a full pre-season into Pick 7, Balic, Yarran, Apeness and all the sudden our 22 looks pretty good with a decent amount of depth.

Wow, poor Pav

 

[sportsmaniac89]

I'm torn about this Hill trade

Looking at it in terms of Hill for Mayne, this is a potential upgrade.

Looking at it in terms of Hill for Pick 23..............Again I'm skeptical.

It's good to see trades getting done but fair dinkum, I feel like we're going after the dregs of trade week and yes I'm aware that's disrespectful to both Hill and McCarthy (potentially Kersten and Hamling as well) but I just don't share the same confidence that others have thus far.

 

[blue shark]

Definately Dawson and I would have serious doubts about how many games they get out of Johnno next year.

Hamling could replace Ibbo, Dawson easily, and if people think Johnno will, should play every game next year, its groundhog
day handling similar to Elvis.

 

[freoextra]

Is Ballantyne and a late pick for Kersten a possibility? Vague unsubstantiated rumours were that Geelong had some interest in Ballas at some point. If we can get Kersten in and keep the pick in the 30's that will be brilliant

Like the suggestion a lot. You feel that Ballas time at Freo is probably done and he may spend time at Peel (I would prefer to play Yarran, Langdon or even Balic). However, it might be very beneficial for him at Geelong, can't thing of a similar player at the cats and I really could see him having a strong presence there for a couple of years. Win win for mine (apart from the Geelong supporters who will be microwaving the membership cards).

 

[freoextra]

I'm torn about this Hill trade

Looking at it in terms of Hill for Mayne, this is a potential upgrade.

Looking at it in terms of Hill for Pick 23..............Again I'm skeptical.

It's good to see trades getting done but fair dinkum, I feel like we're going after the dregs of trade week and yes I'm aware that's disrespectful to both Hill and McCarthy (potentially Kersten and Hamling as well) but I just don't share the same confidence that others have thus far.

Don't get your negativity, McCarthy was looking like a fair dinkum star before his year off and Hill has played too many quality big games to be questioned. We are now at the "lesser" end with Kersten and Hamlin but they would still easily get into our best 22 imo.

 

[sportsmaniac89]

Don't get your negativity, McCarthy was looking like a fair dinkum star before his year off and Hill has played to many quality big games to be questioned. We are now at the "lesser" end with Kersten and Hamlin but they would still easily get into our best 22 imo.

McCarthy - 12 months out of the game
Hill - Downhill skier

Forgive my negativity but I have incredible skepticism of these trades and sorry, I'm not going to jump up and down with excitement because Bond and Lloyd have finally done something....I would be a bit more excited if they had credits in the bank but they're coming back from negative as far as I'm concerned.

 

[The Anchorite]

I'll miss him in the brown and gold, his role and abilities are severely unappreciated by many HFC supporters who won't realise what he provided the club until he's gone.

That's pretty much exactly what some Port supporters posted about Pearce.