Unhumble Port Supporters.

[Stumpy Pete]

If this was the case then why did players move from a stronger league to play top flight football in a weaker one ?

Could you name one of those years for me ?

1911 when SA defeated the VFL in the final of the interstate carnival.

Regards

S. Pete

 

[Proud Bogan]

I'd forgotten to do that, thanks for the reminder.

So can I claim
Fremantle Premiers 1886 1890 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1898 1900 1902 1903 1905 1906 1908 1909 1910 1911 1914 1916 1917 1918 1925 1928 1929 1930 1931 1933 1937 1943 1945 1946 1947 1948 1950 1952 1953 1954 1957 1965 1970 1974 1979 1980 1985 1992 1994 1997 1998 48 Premierships and counting
Makes as much sense as you and Pred claiming SANFL Premierships

 

[Wildman]

The VFL/AFL is/was the elite comp in the country the records stand
and that'a a fact

The SANFL records don't
and thats a fact

 

[Count Zero]

If this was the case then why did players move from a stronger league to play top flight football in a weaker one ?

Could you name one of those years for me ?

http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/interstate_football.htm
"Until fairly recently elite level Australian football meant interstate football. Moreover, it was primarily, indeed almost exclusively, in the interstate arena that football could in any serious way be argued to be a genuinely national sport. Since the transmutation of the VFL into the AFL, however, the overwhelming majority of Australia's elite footballers have participated in a single, national (or near-national) club competition, and the importance of senior interstate footy has diminished.

Nevertheless, its overall significance in terms of the sport's development - and, indeed, arguably its very survival - cannot be over-stressed.

Prior to the 1960s the vast majority of the game's elite players saw out most if not all of their careers in their home states or territories. By the time of the inception of state of origin football in 1977, however, the trend for the very best footballers, from all parts of Australia, to gravitate towards Victoria, and in particular the VFL, was becoming irresistible. Interstate matches between state league selections were no longer remotely representative of the quality of each state's footballers. This is exemplified by the fact that, prior to the arrival of the state of origin concept, the VFL had not lost an interstate contest for 12 seasons. However, the fact that such success was not uniquely attributable to the quality of footballers being produced within the boundaries of the state of Victoria must be readily conceded when you consider that the list of prominent 'Victorians' during that era included names like Hudson, Hart, Stewart (from Tasmania), Farmer, John, Marshall and the Richardsons (from Western Australia), Jesaulenko (from the ACT), and Blight (from South Australia).

The swing in the balance of power, once the state of origin concept was implemented, was immediate. In the very first state of origin contest Western Australia thrashed the Vics by 94 points, a victory of unprecedented magnitude. The Victorian response, perhaps predictably, was to dilute the state of origin rules in such a way as, effectively, to load the dice in Victoria's favour. Essentially, this meant restricting the number of VFL-based players available to Victoria's opponents, whilst allowing the Victorian selectors access to any VFL-based players whatsoever who did not qualify for the opposition . Nevertheless, there could be little doubt that the playing field had been levelled somewhat: in the 12 seasons following the introduction of the state of origin concept Victoria's record in such matches against Western Australia was 9 wins from 15 starts, and against South Australia 5 wins from 9."

 

[Count Zero]

So can I claim
Fremantle Premiers 1886 1890 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1898 1900 1902 1903 1905 1906 1908 1909 1910 1911 1914 1916 1917 1918 1925 1928 1929 1930 1931 1933 1937 1943 1945 1946 1947 1948 1950 1952 1953 1954 1957 1965 1970 1974 1979 1980 1985 1992 1994 1997 1998 48 Premierships and counting
Makes as much sense as you and Pred claiming SANFL Premierships

Which club(s) are you talking about?

 

[raboyle]

So can I claim
Fremantle Premiers 1886 1890 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1898 1900 1902 1903 1905 1906 1908 1909 1910 1911 1914 1916 1917 1918 1925 1928 1929 1930 1931 1933 1937 1943 1945 1946 1947 1948 1950 1952 1953 1954 1957 1965 1970 1974 1979 1980 1985 1992 1994 1997 1998 48 Premierships and counting
Makes as much sense as you and Pred claiming SANFL Premierships

That depends PB... was there a Fremantle club in the WAFL before 1996, or are you counting the premierships of two clubs?

Port's trophies came from one club... not two--South and East Fremantle.

 

[theGimp]

That depends PB... was there a Fremantle club in the WAFL before 1996, or are you counting the premierships of two clubs?

Port's trophies came from one club... not two--South and East Fremantle.

Port Adelaide is completely different that Port Power too.
So which one is it that you support ?

Another simple question for the Port fans.
Would you have dominated the VFL with the same team as you did in the SANFL ?

 

[Powerstufff]

You don't get many chances to grab the premiership cup at the top level. Nor to do it by beating the best team of all time. If you think we gloated in 2004 just wait and see if we do it again in 2005.

......Humility is over rated though.

Isn't it just?

 

[worthy]

VFL reserves = SANFL
therefore all reserves premierships should count, also current afl aligned clubs premierships should count.
Bring it on baby.

 

[Powerstufff]

.....Would you have dominated the VFL with the same team as you did in the SANFL ?

Yep. We've been proving it to some extent for the last 4 years.

 

[raboyle]

I support neither Port team.

If Port joined up with the VFL back in the 80's... I'm sure they would have tore the Vic clubs a new one on more than one occasion.

Victoria needed players from outside their square to be the best... so really Victoria owes some of its 'greatness' to SA and WA and whoever else outside of Victoria joined in.

 

[Ray Nolan]

Port Adelaide is completely different that Port Power too.
So which one is it that you support ?

Another simple question for the Port fans.
Would you have dominated the VFL with the same team as you did in the SANFL ?

There is no such thing as Port Power. I support the Port Adelaide Football Club established 1870 and current AFL Premiers.

Would we have dominated the VFL with the same teams? I certainly believe the teams from the 50's-60's-70's at the very least would have won their fair share of Premierships.

 

[jimmy35]

You don't get many chances to grab the premiership cup at the top level. Nor to do it by beating the best team of all time. If you think we gloated in 2004 just wait and see if we do it again in 2005.

Isn't it just?

And with good reason

 

[Proud Bogan]

That depends PB... was there a Fremantle club in the WAFL before 1996, or are you counting the premierships of two clubs?

Port's trophies came from one club... not two--South and East Fremantle.

well if you want to get technical 1886 1890 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1898 were all won by the Fremantle Football Club.Then the club was split on two like Port Adelaide.Port Adelaide Magpies and Port Adelaide Power two separate clubs in two separate competitions

 

[theGimp]

Yep. We've been proving it to some extent for the last 4 years.

Easy tiger. You have one Cup. Thats all.
Did you forget about Brisbane for those 4 years ?

You did however prove to be the biggest chokers we have ever seen.

 

[theGimp]

I support neither Port team.

If Port joined up with the VFL back in the 80's... I'm sure they would have tore the Vic clubs a new one on more than one occasion.

Victoria needed players from outside their square to be the best... so really Victoria owes some of its 'greatness' to SA and WA and whoever else outside of Victoria joined in.

I agree with all of the above. But the point we are debating is who had the strongest competition. Victoria did, you said it yourself.
Thank you for proving my point for me.

 

[raboyle]

well if you want to get technical 1886 1890 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1898 were all won by the Fremantle Football Club.Then the club was split on two like your club.Port Adelaide Magpies and Port Adelaide Power two separate clubs in two separate competitions

Like I said... I don't support either Port team.

Port Adelaide FC is in the AFL, the Port Adelaide Magpies FC is in the SANFL. Souths and Easts are both in the WAFL as was the original Fremantle Football Club--two separate clubs born from one club in the same comp.

 

[raboyle]

I agree with all of the above. But the point we are debating is who had the strongest competition. Victoria did, you said it yourself.
Thank you for proving my point for me.

So our league must have been just as great if your clubs needed our players.

So Victoria was really no better than any other. VFL was the best league by self-proclamation.

 

[theGimp]

So our league must have been just as great if your clubs needed our players.

So Victoria was really no better than any other. VFL was the best league by self-proclamation.

Are you completely mental ? I mean more than the average mental from your state.

The best league attracts the best players. Cant you figure that out.

 

[raboyle]

No I am very sane... you're just a typical Vic.

 

[theGimp]

No I am very sane... you're just a typical Vic.

Then why cant you understand such a simple concept ?

 

[raboyle]

Because everyone knows that Victoria has always been up-itself.

We tire of hearing that Victoria excels at everything. Its so old now.

 

[Ray Nolan]

The best league attracts the best players. Cant you figure that out.

The league with the most MONEY attracts the best players. You can bet your bottom dollar that if the SANFL or WAFL clubs had had greater financial strength than the VFL clubs the best players would've been playing in those leagues.

 

[Fullarton Power]

Easy tiger. You have one Cup. Thats all.
Did you forget about Brisbane for those 4 years ?

You did however prove to be the biggest chokers we have ever seen.

That is, until Essendon proved the remedy in both ' 02 and '03...and emulating Essendon's great 1999 feat with interest.

I agree with all of the above. But the point we are debating is who had the strongest competition. Victoria did, you said it yourself.

As raboyle correctly points out, self praise is no recommendation.
You guys have a lot of trouble realising that.


" Carn The Cobras "

 

[worthogs]

Oh dear, now im getting advice on humility from a Geelong tip rat. Obviously you have never been to a Geelong game or you would know that your filth supporters put the human race to shame. Its also a pity Geelong and its supporters are irrelevant in every way. You guys are the doormat of the comp and always will be.

Can someone that actually matters please say something ?

In one paragraph you just proved my point.