US Election 2020: President Elect Biden and VP Elect Harris

[Chief]

This thread is continued in... The Aftermath

US Election 2020: President Biden and VP Harris - The Aftermath

Now we have most of the main players confirmed its time to start the thread on this Pence I assume will be Trumps VP - but I will leave the ? until confirmed https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T09&p0=900&msg=Inauguration+2021&font=sanserif

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Westy Bogan]

Poor Kellyanne... I will say Trump should have put her back in charge on her campaign. She is the master of spin.... He really missed her attack dog ways...

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Jnr calling for TOTAL WAR. Bannon talking about putting heads on pikes and civil war.

The sooner these guys become irrelevant the better.

Actually, I hope they're held accountable and spend the next chunk of their irrelevant lives in prison.

 

[The Sultan]

The biggest bit I struggle with is that one election gets run under different rules depending on which state (and sometimes county) the voter is in.

without knowing the full story, from what i understand the whole setup of the US is that all the states chose how to run their own show, the Fed govnt is only their to oversea.. basically the individual states have the power to run their state how they see fit, hence why diff states have diff laws.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

It depends on the context.

Stand alone, absolutely they are not.

Compared to the cancer that is the Republican Party however, well that's a completely different matter.

Which neatly ties in with the other theme here about the Republicans accusing their opponents of whatever they themselves are most guilty of.

 

[Westy Bogan]

Fox news still swatting away conspiracy theories.... The fix is in from Murdoch....

 

[The Sultan]

Fox news still swatting away conspiracy theories.... The fix is in from Murdoch....

if fox have jumped off of the burning ship then its all over...

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

And Trump will get the second most ever.

"Most votes ever" doesn't mean much with population growth being a thing.

Actually, with non-compulsory voting, it means quite a lot.

 

[biggiemediums]

Jnr calling for TOTAL WAR. Bannon talking about putting heads on pikes and civil war.

The sooner these guys become irrelevant the better.

It’s so god damn irresponsible and dangerous. I’m for free speech. I usually hate all types of banning on social media, I don’t think anyone should ever get in trouble for jokes etc, no matter the subject matter.

But I’m all for shit like that Being cause for ban. I think there are a lot of idiots who can get swayed to violence in that shitty country.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Kellyanne saying that Biden campaign should not be claiming victory.....

Not sure she saw Trump 2 days ago

I won't be sorry to see the back of that vile little piece of work.

 

[bourbons]

Link? Numbers?

As far as I can tell, some rando on twitter spent the last 2 days searching dead people's names. Believe he has found a total of 2 that voted so far.

Call off the election!!

 

[Westy Bogan]

Republicans complaining they were held 25 feet away rather than 6 feet away so they couldn't see post marks....

Who the hell can see a postmark from 6 feet away? The Six Million dollar man?

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Rick Santorum currently dribbling all over himself on CNN is worth a look.

 

[QuietB]

I know it is probably too late now - but has Hunter's laptop shown up?

 

[dumb]

This is disgusting. I can see Trump fans lapping it up.

wowee

a tinpot but with big screens

 

[BATTERY]

 

[Father Jack]

Rick Santorum currently taking exception to someone calling a group of people with guns 'armed'. Not sure why, but there you go.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

It’s very annoying isn’t it? It’s almost impossible to not be a hypocrite when you treat a f*n politician like they’re your sports team.

I genuinely think social media has poisoned human brains into become even more toxic with team mentality; so now that Trump’s Team is losing - the supporters are screaming that the umpires have given Biden a bullshit free kick in front of goal.

This.

 

[Westy Bogan]

Im sure Trump will come out and calm the nation down....

Thats what he is good at...

 

[Mofra]

The only way Trump could surprise me now, is if he concedes defeat.

... using full and complete sentences.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Rick Santorum currently taking exception to someone calling a group of people with guns 'armed'. Not sure why, but there you go.

Straws firmly grasped.

 

[Mofra]

Rick Santorum currently taking exception to someone calling a group of people with guns 'armed'. Not sure why, but there you go.

Yet an old obese man's bid to become President can be called "running"?

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Fox news still swatting away conspiracy theories.... The fix is in from Murdoch....

After Trump called to him to complain Uncle Rupert had to remind him of his place - Murdoch - "Scott, Release the Hounds"

 

[The Passenger]

The American electoral system is now the new object of hate for Trump supporters.
A system that doesn't yield their desired result is obviously broken.

Of course it's not enough to have the EC heavily stacked in their favour...

These guys are genuine whack jobs.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

True, but it's an issue that'd needs bipartisan support, and perhaps even a constitutional amendment (to take it out of the hands of the states if they wont play along).

I think it's like their budget deficit and just gets thrown in the too hard basket, and meanwhile it just gets worse and worse. Yes, the more recent the president/congress the more of the blame they should shoulder, but ultimate it's a problem that extends back a long way and would have been easier to fix before it reached this point.

its a MUCH bigger problem than most appreciate

firstly, the issue is the constitution says that the legislature determines electoral borders and such

its why in the secretary of state in most states runs the elections. having a bi-partisan electoral commission (like for PA) is unusual, and you can literally count on one hand how many have an independent electoral commission (like the AEC)

the problem is many americans treat the constitution as a religious document, so when it says "the legislature will run elections" they interpret that literally.


Secondly you have zero change of 50 states agreeing to allow elections to be a federal power. They are MASSIVE on states rights, and the small states would fight this on the grounds that electoral processes would be dominated by the needs of NY/LA/Chicago, and not smalltown USA


Then you have Americans believing they are the masters of democracy. they believe the founding fathers are like democracy gods, and their reasoning cannot be questioned. The fact the EC was designed to get slave states to sign on to the union is ignored, and its defended as being a foundation to democratically electing a president. The fact Tuesday in November was chosen to allow farmers to vote ignores that most people now are impacted by this one move. None of this will change however because "tradition!"

 

[Strange Cat]

Agree the language is bad, but also that his broader point about the system being broken is correct.

It’s abit late to be claiming the system is broken when they had the had the senate for 4 years and did nothing to change whatever their grievances were.