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If Krueger could stay fit, and scale back on his kamikaze style, he would make a good pickup mid season. Can play as backup forward, defence and 2nd ruck. If Cameron and/or Neale go down, we don’t have a 3rd tall forward. Stanley and SDK could play there, but we can’t really afford to weaken our ruck stocks.
 
Wiltshire is going to be a good player. Big year coming for him. Will get an opportunity if injuries come up as we are pretty sorted for that position.

Other clubs will come knocking.

Unpopular opinion, but I’d rather Wiltshire than Danger up forward in the ones. Danger’s kicked a bag here and there but he has no forward nous. I’d rather he play 50%TOG in the midfield and have Wiltshire up forward doing damage.
 
Sucks for Wiltshire that we're so stacked in his position.

If he played anywhere else, and he did what he did on the weekend a couple more times, you could just about guarantee a debut in the next few weeks.

He's looked like class everytime he's been on the field, which admittedly, hasn't been often.

Do we have any options to counter the log jam down there?

I guess you could develop him as a wingman/mid, or push one of our other smalls up the ground a bit more, but it's all easier said than done.
 
Sucks for Wiltshire that we're so stacked in his position.

If he played anywhere else, and he did what he did on the weekend a couple more times, you could just about guarantee a debut in the next few weeks.

He's looked like class everytime he's been on the field, which admittedly, hasn't been often.

Do we have any options to counter the log jam down there?

I guess you could develop him as a wingman/mid, or push one of our other smalls up the ground a bit more, but it's all easier said than done.

I mean...anything is possible...

Play Miers off a wing
Play Mannagh in the guts and wing but off the bench
Close on the bench
Wiltshire deep forward
Stengle deep forward
Clohesy half forward


Something like (in a fully fit side):

B: Z. Guthrie, Blics, J. Henry
HB: T. Stewart, Kolo, L. Humphries
C: Dempsey, Danger, Miers
FO: SDK, B. Smith, Holmes
HF: O. Henry, J. Cameron, Clohesy
F: Stengle, S. Neale, Wiltshire
INT: Close, Mannagh, C. O'Sullivan, Atkins
Sub: Knevitt

EMG: Bowes, Clark, Conway, J. Martin
 
Any word on Jay Polkinghorne?

Watched a half of the prac match at Deakin last weekend and he seemed a good option as a third tall in the fwd line. How’d he go?
 
I mean...anything is possible...

Play Miers off a wing
Play Mannagh in the guts and wing but off the bench
Close on the bench
Wiltshire deep forward
Stengle deep forward
Clohesy half forward


Something like:

C: Dempsey, Danger, Miers
FO: SDK, B. Smith, Holmes
HF: O. Henry, J. Cameron, Clohesy
F: Stengle, S. Neale, Wiltshire
INT: Close, Mannagh
Oh it's all possible, I'm just thinking in terms of what they're likely to do.

I don't think they're going to be in such a hurry to get him a game that they're going to move pieces around to accommodate him. They might for a week or two though.

So in the meantime, if Ollie could develop his craft up the ground that might open some doors for him a bit earlier.

The opposite of course is true, where we throw someone like Mannagh or Miers up there more often to fit him in...but we seem reluctant to do that unless it's post centre bounce.
 
Oh it's all possible, I'm just thinking in terms of what they're likely to do.

I don't think they're going to be in such a hurry to get him a game that they're going to move pieces around to accommodate him. They might for a week or two though.

So in the meantime, if Ollie could develop his craft up the ground that might open some doors for him a bit earlier.

The opposite of course is true, where we throw someone like Mannagh or Miers up there more often to fit him in...but we seem reluctant to do that unless it's post centre bounce.

We need a deeper midfield, and I really think Mannagh should run through there as much as possible. Played there in the VFL a fair bit, so maybe that is the plan?

One thing's for sure though, Wiltshire could definitely be another steal. Reminds me of a hybrid Miers/Stengle player. Lot of tricks and still very early into his development. Just needs a good run at it. Genuine possibility none of our draftees from recent years could be delisted - as they're all showing improvement.
 
We need a deeper midfield, and I really think Mannagh should run through there as much as possible. Played there in the VFL a fair bit, so maybe that is the plan?

One thing's for sure though, Wiltshire could definitely be another steal. Reminds me of a hybrid Miers/Stengle player. Lot of tricks and still very early into his development. Just needs a good run at it. Genuine possibility none of our draftees from recent years could be delisted - as they're all showing improvement.
Same here, Mannagh's in the Zac Bailey mould IMO.

He doesn't have to be in there full time, but throwing him in as an option 5-10 times a game wouldn't hurt us, put it that way.

He's shown he can do it at VFL level, he's strong one on one, and brings energy around the ball while remaining accountable...but we just refuse to pull the trigger on it for some reason.

Feels like the sort of move that would have arrested some momentum in the first half last week, or the third quarter of the Freo game.
 
He got a bit of it but I dunno man. He took every kick in I think which pumped his numbers and efficiency. He looked slow but was on Henry so maybe deceiving.

I would probably bring him in for Stewart but hold the expectations a bit

Duncan can't spread mannagh can.
 
Sucks for Wiltshire that we're so stacked in his position.

If he played anywhere else, and he did what he did on the weekend a couple more times, you could just about guarantee a debut in the next few weeks.

He's looked like class everytime he's been on the field, which admittedly, hasn't been often.

Do we have any options to counter the log jam down there?

I guess you could develop him as a wingman/mid, or push one of our other smalls up the ground a bit more, but it's all easier said than done.

Not really. Someone like mannagh or miers has to go to the midfield semi full time (mannagh has shown he can do it at vfl level) otherwise a Wiltshire or clohesy probably needs to be able to play on the wing or in the midfield if they want consistent games.
 
I mean...anything is possible...

Play Miers off a wing
Play Mannagh in the guts and wing but off the bench
Close on the bench
Wiltshire deep forward
Stengle deep forward
Clohesy half forward


Something like (in a fully fit side):

B: Z. Guthrie, Blics, J. Henry
HB: T. Stewart, Kolo, L. Humphries
C: Dempsey, Danger, Miers
FO: SDK, B. Smith, Holmes
HF: O. Henry, J. Cameron, Clohesy
F: Stengle, S. Neale, Wiltshire
INT: Close, Mannagh, C. O'Sullivan, Atkins
Sub: Knevitt

EMG: Bowes, Clark, Conway, J. Martin

I wonder if they see Mannagh strong body being able to used further up the ground . Mature strong body , he seems to have pace, a willing tackler ..not sure what he is like linking in play but with an overload of small options and less in the mid and down back ..it makes sense to at least look at options while building his game fitness.
 
Not really. Someone like mannagh or miers has to go to the midfield semi full time (mannagh has shown he can do it at vfl level) otherwise a Wiltshire or clohesy probably needs to be able to play on the wing or in the midfield if they want consistent games.
Miers has a pretty unique gift at half-forward. IMO his talents would be wasted in the midfield
 
I'm not sure I'd have George Stevens as best on either.

Having a look at the votes, I'm thinking he wasn't necessarily bored BOG by either coach, instead it picked up a couple of 4s. As an example

Coach 1:
5 - Kreuger
4 - Stevens
3 - Carroll
2 - Murray
1 - Duncan

Coach 2:
5 - Herbert
4 - Stevens
3 - Wiltshire
2 - Carroll
1 - Kreuger


I think my maths is right on the above
 

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