Mega Thread VICBias - Genuine Discussion Part 2

[greatwhiteshark]

One issue these days that I see in junior football in Perth is the ability of kids being able to move junior clubs.

A kid leaves his local team in local team to go and play in a stronger team at another club 20kms from where he lives, then a few more do the same thing and his original team does not have enough players to field a team or if they do it is a weakened team because their best players have left.

Some of the strong clubs cap the amount of players they have in each team and how many teams they have per grade and send out registration links to the kids they want first.

25 years ago you basically had to play for the local club your suburb was zoned too and if you wanted to move you had to apply to league to have a transfer approved.

Now you can sign for whatever club you like.

They allow them to move so they don’t hurt their feelings.
And for some reason it seems very important for parents their child wins junior premierships.

 

[Freomaniac]

One issue these days that I see in junior football in Perth is the ability of kids being able to move junior clubs.

A kid leaves his local team in local team to go and play in a stronger team at another club 20kms from where he lives, then a few more do the same thing and his original team does not have enough players to field a team or if they do it is a weakened team because their best players have left.

Some of the strong clubs cap the amount of players they have in each team and how many teams they have per grade and send out registration links to the kids they want first.

25 years ago you basically had to play for the local club your suburb was zoned too and if you wanted to move you had to apply to league to have a transfer approved.

Now you can sign for whatever club you like.

So much for Equalization.

Its like Victorian zones in the 1970s and 1980s. Thats where all the decent kids went to the best clubs, regardless of zones.

 

[Freomaniac]

I am always frustrated that opening round always ignores SA and WA teams. Shows the AFL priorities.

Vic
NSW and QLD teams
Daylight
Daylight
SA and WA teams

You are sort of correct.... I have posted this before and will again.

AFL priorities are these groups in order...

1. NSW and QLD sides
2. Victorian sides that play home games at MCG
3. Geelong
4. Victorian sides that play home games at docklands.
5. SA and WA sides.
6. when they come to the comp... Tasmania, NT and ACT teams

 

[sr36]

You are sort of correct.... I have posted this before and will again.

AFL priorities are these groups in order...

1. NSW and QLD sides
2. Victorian sides that play home games at MCG
3. Geelong
4. Victorian sides that play home games at docklands.
5. SA and WA sides.
6. when they come to the comp... Tasmania, NT and ACT teams

Agree with 1 and 2 - sort of - depends how you're bracketing Carlton and Essendon.

Why do you have WA and SA teams below the small Vic teams? There's no gather round to keep them happy. There's no way better NGA zone to keep them happy.

 

[borrat]

Top 4 Victorian teams

Daylight




Northern teams



Other Victorian teams and w.a and s.a teams

end of thread

 

[Slime Roy]

Does anyone know the current Father/Son requirement imposed on each state? I know it's currently 200 for the SANFL and 25 (attended) for the VFL.

 

[doppleganger]

Does anyone know the current Father/Son requirement imposed on each state? I know it's currently 200 for the SANFL and 25 (attended) for the VFL.

For ALL clubs, a player is eligible if his father played 100 or more senior games for the respective club.

Adelaide have picked up Jarman, Edwards and Welsh as sons of Adelaide Crows players who played 100 games.

But despite being in the AFL for almost 35 years now, Adelaide still get to also claim access to kids whose father had nothing to do with and played 0 games for the Adelaide Crows under the father/son rule.

 

[Slime Roy]

For ALL clubs, a player is eligible if his father played 100 or more senior games for the respective club.

Adelaide have picked up Jarman, Edwards and Welsh as sons of Adelaide Crows players who played 100 games.

But despite being in the AFL for almost 35 years now, Adelaide still get to also claim access to kids whose father had nothing to do with and played 0 games for the Adelaide Crows under the father/son rule.

I think our first official "Father Son" pick was Max Michalanney in 2022 (using the points system,etc) The others mentioned were picked up in the rookie draft, so everyone had fair access to them.

As for the SANFL stipulations,
We are the team for ALL South Australians.Its why we wear our state colours.
So limiting us to 4 local sides (& 200 games) for our fist 20 odd years is more of a penalty than a present.

 

[Outtatym]

I think our first official "Father Son" pick was Max Michalanney in 2022 (using the points system,etc) The others mentioned were picked up in the rookie draft, so everyone had fair access to them.

As for the SANFL stipulations,
We are the team for ALL South Australians.Its why we wear our state colours.
So limiting us to 4 local sides (& 200 games) for our fist 20 odd years is more of a penalty than a present.

Welsh was picked up in the national draft

 

[Carringbush2010]

We are the team for ALL South Australians.Its why we wear our state colours.

And this is where it all goes wrong.

This competition is a club competition NOT a state representative competition.

So when you say for 'all South Australians', already the sentiment is not club but state. Vics don't care about state, hell if Ade plays the blose, bombouts or tigs, guess who I'm barracking for?

We barrack for our clubs not our state, if it were soo, then we'd barrack for state, but this comp ain't that comp.

The sooner non vics accept that the competition is for club and not state, the sooner the angst will dissipate.