List Mgmt. Welcome Josh Rotham (Pick 37, 2016 National Draft)

[Cursedsword02]

Just wanna throw some silver lining on this board after a rough game:

Rotham's currently leading the comp in marks after 15 rounds. When you look at the starpower in this Top 10, for a player like Josh Rotham who was on the fringe of selection last year to outrank them all is pretty impressive.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

That's crazy! Thought he was sound today and one of the few that didn't shy away from the contest.

 

[KaaL]

Cmon man, how many of them are marks from chipping in the back? He’s always there for those little chip.

 

[kane249]

Cmon man, how many of them are marks from chipping in the back? He’s always there for those little chip.

He's developing into a good little player for us, but those switches across the D50 pads his stats

 

[THE A5]

his kicking is very good but we've taken his natural instinct our of his game. He is another Run and carry player with a lethal kick but we don't use him like that. Also more weird is that we rather Nelson kicking out over him.

 

[Bender_]

I like him - he's an elite kick - but he's becoming a bit of a momentum killer, seems to always look for a back or sideways option first.

 

[Monocle]

Just wanna throw some silver lining on this board after a rough game:
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Rotham's currently leading the comp in marks after 15 rounds. When you look at the starpower in this Top 10, for a player like Josh Rotham who was on the fringe of selection last year to outrank them all is pretty impressive.

Jury is still out for me on Rotham he does some things well and has shown some promising snippets.
I don't buy the wowness of the total marks as he Gov and Barrass love playing "kick to kick" with each other, in the deep back half so those stats are very much padded.

His lack of composure worries mer at times but hopefully these moments will become fewer as he gets more game time under his belt.

That said he is an emerging player and I am hopeful that there is lots of improvement left in him.

 

[bzparkes]

I like him - he's an elite kick - but he's becoming a bit of a momentum killer, seems to always look for a back or sideways option first.

It's the coaching, not the player. Look at the players that returned this week and how they just refused to look into the middle and their first reaction was to chip sideways/backwards.

Simmo really needs to change the game plan. I understand processes are great but if Harry Edwards doesn't play on last week and follows the sideways kicking game plan looking for a switch, then we lose to Richmond.

Sure the penny has to drop eventually, right?

 

[FKASC]

It's the coaching, not the player. Look at the players that returned this week and how they just refused to look into the middle and their first reaction was to chip sideways/backwards.

Simmo really needs to change the game plan. I understand processes are great but if Harry Edwards doesn't play on last week and follows the sideways kicking game plan looking for a switch, then we lose to Richmond.

Sure the penny has to drop eventually, right?

Agreed. It’s gotten awful over the last year and a half. One of those matches at the end of last season was absolutely diabolical to watch. Think it was against Essendon or North. Did our best to lose it by chipping around the D50 and then predictably bombing it long down the line to Ridley

 

[Roobs321]

I've enjoyed his work all season, cemented in that back 6 for mine and delivered on that (most improved?) club award he received last year. Has that tentacled dark arts vibe that Glass/Emac had, just less deployed to man-on-man/first choice forward (we've got other guys for that after all). I expect Josh will be down there for at least a couple years, worth investing in.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Yeah, leading the marks tally isn't overly impressive at this stage considering 94% of his marks are uncontested.
Only 7 contested marks. He's not even in the top 100 in the comp.

 

[RanaNaved]

Obviously Rotham is better than Naitanui with all those influential marks

 

[FKASC]

Already our best player

 

[The_Gambler]

Already our best player

Not big or strong enough to play as a 3rd tall, not sure he’s been tested on a small fast forward, have not seen him run and attack. Worried he’s a middle of the road player filling a void until someone better comes

 

[Feeling Groovy]

He’s played less than 30 games I think and has improved dramatically from 18 months ago. I would like him to take the game on more but that is coaching/ our system and inexperience. I think he will end up being an excellent long term prospect.

 

[DirtySandman]

Just has to clean up the odd cheap frees he gives away.

I like his composure, is a mini emac. Will be good.

 

[MeltMan]

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Jarrod Brander

Age

25

Ht

195cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

4.9

5star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.3

2star

D

12.3

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.3

2star

CL

0.5

3star

D

9.6

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.2

2star

jokes out now!
Can we give this tired old joke a rest...
they will not be upvoted come 2022, that is a promise!

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Smh I thought there was some news about Rotham...

 

[Obeanie1]

Cmon man, how many of them are marks from chipping in the back? He’s always there for those little chip.

So are most of the others in that list.

Thats why they are in the 5op 10 listing.

 

[THE A5]

Big year for Josh coming up I reckon. He has shown promise over the last two seasons without really cementing his spot. Defensively looked solid at the start of the year but bigger opponents got their way with him. Offensively just look out of sorts just stuck to playing our shitty style. Bunga is an excellent defender but I don't want to see his attacking game disappear with no shep and him supporting the likes of Witho, Duggo and even covering for Gov and TB when they zone off. At this stage I find Foley and Nelson way more defensively solid even tho I think Rotham has a higher ceiling.

 

[dinnaz]

Big year for Josh coming up I reckon. He has shown promise over the last two seasons without really cementing his spot. Defensively looked solid at the start of the year but bigger opponents got their way with him. Offensively just look out of sorts just stuck to playing our shitty style. Bunga is an excellent defender but I don't want to see his attacking game disappear with no shep and him supporting the likes of Witho, Duggo and even covering for Gov and TB when they zone off. At this stage I find Foley and Nelson way more defensively solid even tho I think Rotham has a higher ceiling.

I think it's time to see what he can do on the wing. If he has the endurance to run all day and still have the skills then why not. Our defence plays as a loose unit where 5/6 will zone off and intercept when they can which leaves Cole/Nelson/H.Edwards locking down. Rotham hasnt really shown any great aerial prowess so we can utilise his elsewhere.

 

[WCE_phil]

I think it's time to see what he can do on the wing. If he has the endurance to run all day and still have the skills then why not. Our defence plays as a loose unit where 5/6 will zone off and intercept when they can which leaves Cole/Nelson/H.Edwards locking down. Rotham hasnt really shown any great aerial prowess so we can utilise his elsewhere.

Rotham really plays best with the ball coming at him. He is in essence our replacement for Shep and is ready to go right away. He does need to go back to being more attacking with his kicking as he is a very good kick particularly over distance.

The problem as a side is I genuinely believe we are best off playing all 3 of our ready to go talls with Mcgovern playing the third tall role. Give Edwards the opportunity to play FB, Barrass at CHB and Mcgovern patrolling. This really doesn't leave a spot for rotham atm until Hurn retires as I very much think if you have 3 talls playing your other defenders all have to be able to move the ball and defend well against smaller forwards. As much as he can get a little ahead of himself Mcgovern is actually a great kick, again over distance. If he is freed up to play more offensively it would provide huge benefit to the team. Edwards, Barrass and Cole are all just average kicks of the ball. Ridiculously and he deserves the criticism is Nelson is one of our best kicks but whether it's slow decision making or lack of execution due to exhaustion he turns the ball over way too much.

We need a lot more run and carry from defence this year and it's really hard to see that happening with Hurn and Witherden in the side. Both are absolute ****ing liabilities when it comes to speed however at least hurn is great defending one on one and throwing his body in the way of contests.

 

[Obeanie1]

Rotham really plays best with the ball coming at him. He is in essence our replacement for Shep and is ready to go right away. He does need to go back to being more attacking with his kicking as he is a very good kick particularly over distance.

The problem as a side is I genuinely believe we are best off playing all 3 of our ready to go talls with Mcgovern playing the third tall role. Give Edwards the opportunity to play FB, Barrass at CHB and Mcgovern patrolling. This really doesn't leave a spot for rotham atm until Hurn retires as I very much think if you have 3 talls playing your other defenders all have to be able to move the ball and defend well against smaller forwards. As much as he can get a little ahead of himself Mcgovern is actually a great kick, again over distance. If he is freed up to play more offensively it would provide huge benefit to the team. Edwards, Barrass and Cole are all just average kicks of the ball. Ridiculously and he deserves the criticism is Nelson is one of our best kicks but whether it's slow decision making or lack of execution due to exhaustion he turns the ball over way too much.

We need a lot more run and carry from defence this year and it's really hard to see that happening with Hurn and Witherden in the side. Both are absolute ******* liabilities when it comes to speed however at least hurn is great defending one on one and throwing his body in the way of contests.

IMO Rotham is our Hurn replacement.

Foley is our Sheppard replacement.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Wasn't he supposed to be a fast, athletic, attacking HB/wingman when he was drafted?


I'm a fan. Don't think i've ever watched him play and thought he should be dropped or was out of his depth. Ideally he'd start for me in 2022.

 

[THE A5]

Wasn't he supposed to be a fast, athletic, attacking HB/wingman when he was drafted?


I'm a fan. Don't think i've ever watched him play and thought he should be dropped or was out of his depth. Ideally he'd start for me in 2022.

I've probably mentioned it here before but we tried to make him a KPD/third tall soon as he got here when that wasn't his natural game. He maybe 193cm but he definitely doesn't play that way. Andrew Mackie was probably the first 193cm ish flanker and now we seem to have more and more coming through. I think you make him a flanker but match him up against the mid size forwards and even the smalls as he has the agility and speed to match with smaller players