Welcome Welcome to Hawthorn, Chad Wingard. 200 games! Announces retirement (2 Sept 2024)

[crazywildhorse]

People better listen up when his footy is talking

“Obviously, like I said”

 

[Billyc]

Reckon we will get Port twice next year or just once at Adelaide Oval because of this?

 

[Gday1]

Reckon we will get Port twice next year or just once at Adelaide Oval because of this?

Definitely in Adelaide

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Reckon we will get Port twice next year or just once at Adelaide Oval because of this?

I think once in Adelaide, as we have to many other teams in the 7-12 bracket that the AFL will want us having double ups against like Sydney, Geelong or Essendon.

 

[Nugett]

Two things I feel Hawthorn FC, Clarko and the coaching group need to do for/with ‘The Chad’ right from the outset.

1. Make him feel like family, family, family and more family - right from the get go. You can tell it’s an absolute core value with this kid. It’s right into the marrow of his bones and every fibre of his being. I have a sneaking suspicion that somewhere along the way ‘The Chad’ felt like Hinkley didn’t have his back in the manner he expected. Last couple of seasons, when things were going a bit wrong for this kid on field and in the media, I reckon with his personality type he would need more carrot, than stick from his coaches. With guys like Chad Cornes, Warren Treadrea, Michaelangelo Rucci, KG Cunningham and alike - I mean who needs enemies with mates like this. Family is such a central element with many indigenous kids that it supersedes almost everything else. If as reported, he is not a person who lives and breathes football 24/7, I can envisage many situations where there could have been a culture clash with a person like Hinkley. I strongly suspect that Hinkley is a guy who would demand absolute discipline and dedication to the cause - without question (an almost a zealot type focus). That, in and of itself, is not wrong or a bad thing. It probably is the right approach with the majority of the playing list. But with personality types like ‘The Chad’ I reckon the tighter you squeeze them the more slips through your grasp. As “The Chad’ said in his presser there was no bad blood and he agreed with the points Hinkley made, but he was a bit dumbfounded he wasn’t made aware earlier. He also expected a bit more support rather than leaking b.s to the media about what he likes to do in his downtime - whether that’s gaming with mates, kicking back or whatever.

Without being overly ‘new agey’ or ‘space cadet’ about this I think in his psychology he would compute this like being let down by his father or family member. Again, I’m not saying Hinkley is wrong, but I just don’t think it would work with a kid like ‘The Chad’. I look at the latitude we gave Cyril with all his injuries and troubles, and it’s not hard to see why he advocated for HFC when he spoke to ‘The Chad’. Also, despite the media bullshit about bad blood, Cyril has openly said he would only ever play for HFC if he made a comeback. I think Jarmen Impey feels the same way, after the loss of his father and the way he’s been treated by HFC. In fact, despite our historical bad efforts with indigenous kids, I think we’ve been getting it right going all the way back to Changa Bateman when he lost his sister.

2. Start the season off winning. This kid is a thoroughbred, if we start off hot, look out sports fan’s, he may very well go a level we have never seen before. I’m talking Paul Salmon pre knee injury, Gary Ablett Snr 1989 final series, Kouta at his peak mid 90’s, Dusty Martin 2017 - that type of stuff. But if we start off slow, I think the weight of the world will come down inside this kid’s mind. Combine that with living in Victoria and it may get ugly - think Tom Boyd. Cold Melbourne winters, training in the gloom at Waverley, losing games and being away from his home state is not a set of circumstances that will suit this kid.

Great post. Especially the bit I put in bold. I agree think the club’s culture has evolved since we removed the old boys network from the club.

Reading through the Jack Scrimshaw thread, and reading what Jack’s dad has said about him, both Chad and Jack, seem to have similar personality traits. Both seem to have strong family values, good close mates, rather than a lot of friends. Had little support from their previous clubs, have a different approach to other players in their preparation. To be “New agey” and a space cadet, I think that if the club can offer understanding and support of both their needs, wether it be having family around them, or taking a more different/proactive approach, then I believe that we will have 2 excellent players, making a huge contribution to the club.

As you say, we have come a long way from the 90’s/ early 2000’s, where there is more focus on the players being allowed to be people first. That’s why I think we have been so successful. We have a low list turn over, where players leave either through mandatory delistings, retirements, higher opportunity else where (More money, more game opportunity ect) or to prolong their career. If a player does decide to leave, we make it as painless as possible, even if we accept unders for them.

It’s great being a HFC supporter at the moment.

Hoping Chad, Jack and Scully find premiership success here.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I reckon Chad will love walking into the fitness and conditioning offices to find Sean Dempster.

 

[KermitJagger]

I reckon Chad will love walking into the fitness and conditioning offices to find Sean Dempster.

That was a ripper mark.

On the Sean Dempster note though, he's a quality bloke and a quality defender - always batted above his average on field. I love how we go for quality people regardless of what role they're in.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

More Wingard highlights....

 

[KermitJagger]

More Wingard highlights....

He's so clean, you can't teach those one handed pick ups or that vision.

 

[tenderwarrior]

Wingard to Hawks is the trade I am most excited about. I can see him really exploding at the Hawks!

 

[Hawker1167]

Number 20 is free also

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Gee he is going to bring a real will to win isn’t he? He and Sicily on field together - wow. You need that kind of spunk

I’d give anything to add Toby Greene to that mix.

 

[MrPremiership]

Looks to want to prove a lot of people wrong in 2019.

5 year deal....hopefully his head is still in it by 2022

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

I think once in Adelaide, as we have to many other teams in the 7-12 bracket that the AFL will want us having double ups against like Sydney, Geelong or Essendon.

Good.

There's 6 wins.

 

[The German Hunter]

Good.

There's 6 wins.

And a good percentage injection

 

[MJA33]

More Wingard highlights....

That last passage, kick to Robbie gray, wow what skill

 

[nickrebellious]

Effectively traded Stephen Gilham into Chad Wingard.

Gilham > Anderson > Burton > Wingard

Pretty much cost us Gilham, pick 15 & 35!

 

[TylerDurden]

Effectively traded Stephen Gilham into Chad Wingard.

Gilham > Anderson > Burton > Wingard

Pretty much cost us Gilham, pick 15 & 35!

And Gilly was a rookie selection

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Effectively traded Stephen Gilham into Chad Wingard.

Gilham > Anderson > Burton > Wingard

Pretty much cost us Gilham, pick 15 & 35!

LOL. That’s pretty good.

 

[nickrebellious]

And Gilly was a rookie selection

& Delisted from Port Adelaide!

 

[beta_condition]

& Delisted from Port Adelaide!

Damn you beat me to it, the circle of life.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

 

[threesixpio]

Winged God

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Please bring the long sleeves back

 

[threesixpio]

Please bring the long sleeves back

Not a fan of his ink?