Player Watch Welcome to Hawthorn, Denver Grainger-Barras (delisted 2024)

[smeltitdeltit]

Good to see he’s gotten on top of his adhd

 

[Simon Crawshay]

He has talent as this weekend showed, just needs to back it up week after week.

Let him put in a really solid month at VFL level and he will be close to getting another crack at the seniors.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Was he suffering with cramp, like the commentary was suggesting? or was this just a little bit of hyperbole?

Appeared to be cramp! DGB did a bit of running out of defence. I can deal with cramp in the dying minutes of a game.

Before he was cramping around half time. So hopefully a sign of improvement.

 

[cryptor]

Missed the game but sounds like a performance in response to some pretty direct feedback from last week.

The real measure will be backing it up and building off it in the weeks to come.

 

[HAWKS2016]

How was his game today?

 

[KermitJagger]

How was his game today?

Looks like he may have been thrown forward

 

[SSSSSS]

Looks like we got absolutely smashed.

 

[Billyc]

How was his game today?

I saw the first half. Like most of his teammates today, he didn’t do a lot from what I saw.

 

[OnTheRocks]

6 games to impress or get lucky. Tick flipping tock

 

[hk89]

He's still our most successful pick 6 so far (in terms of games played). If we delist him without another game played it will sit like this:

DGB: 28 games
Dowler: 16 games
Thorp: 2 games

Three 6's , number of the beast. No real surprise for the numerology nuts amongst us.

May I suggest next time we land pick 6 we consider some kind of pick split option

Love Wingard, and very much hope we see him on the park again, despite his latest injury setback, but he's spent a lot of time on the sidelines since coming to us. Worth pointing out, he was a pick 6 for Port too

 

[CHUBBSS]

He's still our most successful pick 6 so far (in terms of games played). If we delist him without another game played it will sit like this:

DGB: 28 games
Dowler: 16 games
Thorp: 2 games

Three 6's , number of the beast. No real surprise for the numerology nuts amongst us.

May I suggest next time we land pick 6 we consider some kind of pick split option

Love Wingard, and very much hope we see him on the park again, despite his latest injury setback, but he's spent a lot of time on the sidelines since coming to us. Worth pointing out, he was a pick 6 for Port too

The devil doesn't like hawthorn bit in this

 

[Slainte]

Another brutal review from ZL (mind you, DGB was not on his lonesome when it came to brutal reviews):

“So Denver, like all our defenders, we just didn't get our job done. We were beaten by the Southport forwards, their work rate and their energy to provide options in offense and be dangerous, beat us, and that was the same with Denver's opponent. Denver's had the nine disposals at 56% we did swing him forward late in the game, he was able to hit the scoreboard and provide some good energy. But ideally, we would like not to have to do that and leave Denver to play his role there. But we thought Denver could kick as a goal and help us win the game, but unfortunately, didn't quite happen.”

 

[KermitJagger]

He's still our most successful pick 6 so far (in terms of games played). If we delist him without another game played it will sit like this:

DGB: 28 games
Dowler: 16 games
Thorp: 2 games

Three 6's , number of the beast. No real surprise for the numerology nuts amongst us.

May I suggest next time we land pick 6 we consider some kind of pick split option

Love Wingard, and very much hope we see him on the park again, despite his latest injury setback, but he's spent a lot of time on the sidelines since coming to us. Worth pointing out, he was a pick 6 for Port too

Pick 6 is just cursed in general. It has almost an impossibly lower average game tally than the picks around it.

 

[dixyland]

The devil doesn't like hawthorn bit in this

He's obviously a Melbourne supporter

 

[SpanishBrowne]

Pick 6 is just cursed in general. It has almost an impossibly lower average game tally than the picks around it.

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crazy stat! thanks for sharing!

 

[Simon Crawshay]

He's still our most successful pick 6 so far (in terms of games played). If we delist him without another game played it will sit like this:

DGB: 28 games
Dowler: 16 games
Thorp: 2 games

Three 6's , number of the beast. No real surprise for the numerology nuts amongst us.

May I suggest next time we land pick 6 we consider some kind of pick split option

Love Wingard, and very much hope we see him on the park again, despite his latest injury setback, but he's spent a lot of time on the sidelines since coming to us. Worth pointing out, he was a pick 6 for Port too

I tell you what I would be very interested to know the backstory behind Mitch Thorps time at the club.

I know he had his injuries but for the club to have delisted a top ten pick after just three years and a grand total of 2 games makes you think there was a fair bit happening behind the scenes

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Pick 6 is just cursed in general. It has almost an impossibly lower average game tally than the picks around it.

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such an odd statistical outlier that with the amount of data we have you could almost say is significant. i wonder if there's legitimate rationale behind it or if it's pure chance. it must be pure chance...

 

[Mississippi]

I tell you what I would be very interested to know the backstory behind Mitch Thorps time at the club.

I know he had his injuries but for the club to have delisted a top ten pick after just three years and a grand total of 2 games makes you think there was a fair bit happening behind the scenes

From memory, he had a huge ego.
His first game against Richmond, he kicked 1 goal and strutted around like he'd won the Brownlow.

 

[tommyk72]

Pick 6 is just cursed in general. It has almost an impossibly lower average game tally than the picks around it.

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What happens to the number when you take out hawk pick 6s?

 

[KermitJagger]

What happens to the number when you take out hawk pick 6s?

73 games. Still multiple full seasons of footy lower than the picks around it.

It's the only pick in the top 20 that has not produced a player that has played 250 games.

 

[Walshawk]

Another brutal review from ZL (mind you, DGB was not on his lonesome when it came to brutal reviews):

“So Denver, like all our defenders, we just didn't get our job done. We were beaten by the Southport forwards, their work rate and their energy to provide options in offense and be dangerous, beat us, and that was the same with Denver's opponent. Denver's had the nine disposals at 56% we did swing him forward late in the game, he was able to hit the scoreboard and provide some good energy. But ideally, we would like not to have to do that and leave Denver to play his role there. But we thought Denver could kick as a goal and help us win the game, but unfortunately, didn't quite happen.”

Love his honesty. Imagine he will have a fair input on which six to eight players will be delisting in two months.

 

[Slainte]

Love his honesty. Imagine he will have a fair input on which six to eight players will be delisting in two months.

On those reviews, only Serong and (maybe) Bennetts would be confident among those who ran out against Southport

 

[Billyc]

Another brutal review from ZL (mind you, DGB was not on his lonesome when it came to brutal reviews):

“So Denver, like all our defenders, we just didn't get our job done. We were beaten by the Southport forwards, their work rate and their energy to provide options in offense and be dangerous, beat us, and that was the same with Denver's opponent. Denver's had the nine disposals at 56% we did swing him forward late in the game, he was able to hit the scoreboard and provide some good energy. But ideally, we would like not to have to do that and leave Denver to play his role there. But we thought Denver could kick as a goal and help us win the game, but unfortunately, didn't quite happen.”

No sugarcoating there. I saw the first half and that is pretty accurate, albeit others were just as poor. DGB is certainly doing nothing to suggest he's too good for VFL. In fact, he's struggling at that level.

 

[westhawk]

Another brutal review from ZL (mind you, DGB was not on his lonesome when it came to brutal reviews):

“So Denver, like all our defenders, we just didn't get our job done. We were beaten by the Southport forwards, their work rate and their energy to provide options in offense and be dangerous, beat us, and that was the same with Denver's opponent. Denver's had the nine disposals at 56% we did swing him forward late in the game, he was able to hit the scoreboard and provide some good energy. But ideally, we would like not to have to do that and leave Denver to play his role there. But we thought Denver could kick as a goal and help us win the game, but unfortunately, didn't quite happen.”

I would be putting the blame squarely on the mids, they were pretty putrid and it cost the back line. That Box Hill midfield doesn’t like to do the hard stuff sometimes.

 

[RoughysMullet]

No sugarcoating there. I saw the first half and that is pretty accurate, albeit others were just as poor. DGB is certainly doing nothing to suggest he's too good for VFL. In fact, he's struggling at that level.

From what I saw he was poor in defense but the midfield was soundly beaten against a pretty quality VFL side away in Queensland where we are traditionally woeful. At least he went forward and hit the scoreboard- he’s had an injury interrupted season but looked like he was starting to show signs of what he can do late the week before…

Prepared to give him a mulligan on this one as it was a tough day - but he won’t get many more and time is running out this season for him to make an impression and make this season count for something…