Wellingham - Traded to West Coast

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One thing is for sure, the club with pick 17 will have one additional player in their pool of potential new recruits than the club with pick 18 has.
 
well no ABSOLUTE guarantee. no ABSOLUTE guarantee that wellingham wont come home, fall out of love football and be a list clogger either.

Its a very strong bet that he will have a better career than at least 50% of the crop of pick 17's drafted in the last ten years.

And importantly he will have more chance of making an immediate impact on a team in the premiership window than whoever gets drafted at 17 this year.
 
Wellingham is a pretty decent player , will suit the subi oval i would have thought , on top of that , hes going to be sharking to cox and natanui , especially in the forward line around goals , sharrods a pretty decent snap for goal and good in congestion.

Further to that he will have kerr and priddis dishing to him. Good pick for the eagles, i ddint think you guys had a massive amount of pace in the midfield , so wellingham to me seemed a good fit

Pick 17 is so not assured of a decent kid, esentially.

Worrying for us since our midfield is pretty one paced now without him
Clinton Young would be pretty like-for-like I would've though (obviously IF we get him)t? Can Hawks supporters confirm?
 
Clinton Young would be pretty like-for-like I would've though (obviously IF we get him)t? Can Hawks supporters confirm?

Add to that the development of Sinclair Elliott and Williams, all of whom have some toe, and the Collingwood midfield should be quicker than in 2012 despite losing Wellers. I'd also add in Dale Thomas who is not slow but was hampered by a foot injury in 2012.
 
Its a very strong bet that he will have a better career than at least 50% of the crop of pick 17's drafted in the last ten years.

And importantly he will have more chance of making an immediate impact on a team in the premiership window than whoever gets drafted at 17 this year.

This^

Other than Priddis/Kerr/S Selwood West Coast are short of hard ball winners. Wellingham is not that, but he is closer than the the other WC midfielders

Sure our Midfielders look great at the open spaces of Subiaco with Cox/Nait giving them first use of the ball. But when this doesn't happen like in the final against the Pies, we get shown up. Wellingham has a bit of Mongrel in him
(Pies players always do) is quick enough and wins more contested marks than our whole WC midfield put together

I said this before, with Kerr, Cox, Glass, Embley and co close to retiring how long do you think our premiership window will open? We do not have 2/3 years to develop another kid with pick 17, its now or never :thumbsu:
 
This^

Other than Priddis/Kerr/S Selwood West Coast are short of hard ball winners. Wellingham is not that, but he is closer than the the other WC midfielders

Sure our Midfielders look great at the open spaces of Subiaco with Cox/Nait giving them first use of the ball. But when this doesn't happen like in the final against the Pies, we get shown up. Wellingham has a bit of Mongrel in him
(Pies players always do) is quick enough and wins more contested marks than our whole WC midfield put together

I said this before, with Kerr, Cox, Glass, Embley and co close to retiring how long do you think our premiership window will open? We do not have 2/3 years to develop another kid with pick 17, its now or never :thumbsu:

For 17, its well worth the shot.

Wellingham hasnt played inside because he isnt PENDLEBURY, SWAN or THOMAS ... I hope his performances free Kerr of taggers. He is quality.
 
For 17, its well worth the shot.

Wellingham hasnt played inside because he isnt PENDLEBURY, SWAN or THOMAS ... I hope his performances free Kerr of taggers. He is quality.

Precisely. Wellingham is a bird in the hand whilst you are seriously competing for premierships.

Now what was thread about again? :p
 
I said this before, with Kerr, Cox, Glass, Embley and co close to retiring how long do you think our premiership window will open? We do not have 2/3 years to develop another kid with pick 17, its now or never :thumbsu:

That doesn't mean you put all your eggs in one basket. You don't want to end up like the Dogs are now - basically stuffed for the next 5 years.
 

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WTF? Watson has some talent mate. Can you tell me, in a fashion resembling intelligence, why exactly you consider this young fella to be a dud? And a guy like Luke Tapscott for that matter. Oh but as we move down the list it becomes obvious you're not even serious about assessing the picks anyway.

"James Strauss Melb - Dud"

Ummm ... that would be Luke Shuey at pick 18 sunshine. What's the matter, did Shuey make the holes in your approach a little too obvious for your comfort, so you just skipped to pick 19 instead? It's pretty obvious umad that Collingwood have done a great job in this trade, so are doing your best to downplay it. Suck it up I say!

Probably harsh call just trying to empathize my point but he is slow and turns like a semi, far from a gun.

But agree harsh.
 
I'm with you big red - it's not the actual club recruiter picking the player, it's the player/pick

Pick 18 is forever doomed. Are the pies able to throw it in the bin? Save them wasting a spot on their list.



What about you big red? Would you like to play for the pies at pick 18? You seem like a real winner

I hear u.. That's why I am the people's champion.

Pies fleeced next topic
 
Probably harsh call just trying to empathize my point but he is slow and turns like a semi, far from a gun.

But agree harsh.

Watson played as a 19yo KPD this year, so I'm not sure why being far from a gun at this point leans him anywhere near being a dud. He's not fast and pacey, but calling him slow is really correct either; his draft combine results weren't too bad and when you add in the fact he's 195cm and 99kg, there is definite room for improvement. I do agree that his agility isn't great, but again, as he gets more of an AFL body this should be less of an issue. He reads the ball in pretty well, generally makes good decisions and is a terrific kick. Probably what needs most work is body positioning.

I don't think you were being harsh, I think you were being ridiculous. And given the fact your post deceitfully inserted another player instead of Shuey, I doubt you were even being genuine anyway.
 
I'd say Watson carries a third of his weight in that gigantic pumpkin of his. He can slender up his whole body, but then he'll be all top-heavy and unbalanced.

Anyways, Pies with 2 first round picks in a row have a good chance to snare a decent player there and take a risk on one of them. Three first round picks would be peachy keen.
 
I think its a fair trade, maybe slightly overs for West Coast in the sense that we could have held for 3 weeks and then at the eleventh hour grudgingly agreed to some madly complicated, three way, multipick trade which would have gotten to about pick 20ish for Wellingham, but in the end 17 is in the ball park and I'd much prefer to just get the deal done than spend forever trying to squeeze that last draft position out of the deal.

I think one of the reasons West Coast paid up so smartly for Wellingham is he is basically the perfect age and experience level- slots in well with our present midfield group which is probably in semi-tilt mode next year, and should still be there and playing good footy in 3-4 years when Shuey, Gaff and co enter their prime.

Who won this trade? obviously it depends on how Wellingham goes, and how Collingwood draft- i think pick #17 is about a 50% chance of an honest toiler 40% chance of a spud, and a 10% chance of a genuine gun, so it is certainly worth having.
 
Have a quick glance over the last 4-5 drafts and draw a circle around pick 18 and the next couple of picks. Then do the same for picks 25 and the next couple of picks. It's pretty clear unless you have an unusual situation like Darling, the earlier pick gives you much better exposure. If you think I'm wrong, start throwing up some examples and discuss them on their merits.

Pretty ridiculous drawing conclusions based on the past 3 years only when these kids careers have barely started. Take a longer view and there's clearly very little difference between the quality of players picked at 17 and 25. Besides, there's no evidence that say Atley for example will have a better career than wellingham. They look on a par.
 
Its a very strong bet that he will have a better career than at least 50% of the crop of pick 17's drafted in the last ten years.

And importantly he will have more chance of making an immediate impact on a team in the premiership window than whoever gets drafted at 17 this year.

i dont know about others, but if its a 50/50 bet that a pick 17 will be better than wellingham, id take it. those are damn good odds. for me he is way way too inconsistent who only performs 1/10 games. rest is just made up of fluff that anyone can fill.
 
i dont know about others, but if its a 50/50 bet that a pick 17 will be better than wellingham, id take it. those are damn good odds. for me he is way way too inconsistent who only performs 1/10 games. rest is just made up of fluff that anyone can fill.

Fair enough, your opinion. Other Eagles fans seem pretty happy with the trade because he can make an immediate impact on a team that is in striking distance of a flag.

He is nowhere near as inconsistent as you make him out to be but as I said youre entitled to think what you like.
 

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