Coach Who should be our next coach?

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15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney (GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis
7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon, Brendon Lade, Adem Yze interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9
 
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Mr Mojo Risin said:
Trying to picture the logistics.

Would it be Megan kicking you in the balls from behind while Donald kisses you?

Or would you bend backwards while she kicks you from the front and Donald leans over from the side and kisses you?
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Mr Mojo Risin said:
Trying to picture the logistics.

Would it be Megan kicking you in the balls from behind while Donald kisses you?

Or would you bend backwards while she kicks you from the front and Donald leans over from the side and kisses you?
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Yes.

I'm willing to experiment.
 

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How come Hird didn't step aside for Solomon like he did for Spike at GWS?
 
My 2 cents

Hopefully some common sense happens and Hird is not selected as coach. For all the crap this club has been through the last decade and they then invite him to apply???

And not open to him as an assistant either. He will be the elephant in the room and the coach who ever that will be doesn’t need that.

To be honest after all that the club, players and supporters have been through this Hird rubbish is a massive slap in the face.

heck sake get your shit together EFC and appoint Yze with a good team and let them do their jobs.
 
Just curious - has anyone ever 'invited themselves' to interview for a job? Pretty sure being invited by a potential employer is a prerequisite to interviewing for a job...
 

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P Money said:
Just curious - has anyone ever 'invited themselves' to interview for a job? Pretty sure being invited by a potential employer is a prerequisite to interviewing for a job...
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It sounds like Mahoney did a pretty extensive ring around of anyone suitably experienced. Which I wouldn’t have said should include Hird, given reasons.
 
owen87 said:
It sounds like Mahoney did a pretty extensive ring around of anyone suitably experienced. Which I wouldn’t have said should include Hird, given reasons.
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My point is that nobody ever waltzes into an organisation and tells them they are going to interview for a vacant position. People signal their interest and an employer decides whether or not they'll invite them to interview. This whole crap of 'OMG the Bombers invited Hird to interview!' - as if there's any other way it can work - is just clickbait trash.

Whether he should have been given the opportunity to interview is an entirely different question.
 
Twitter crap -> SRP
 
Red Black and Blue said:
Football knowledge is secondary to demonstrating it in industry practice.

The fact he hasn't gone out and done an apprenticeship yet still feels qualified to lead the club is evidence in itself; that he's still the same cocksure man that got us into hell.
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You've got it backwards.

He's already demonstrated he can apply his knowledge.

All he has to do is demonstrate a contemporary tactical understanding. This is objectively measurable and can be compared to the other candidates.

I genuinely don't mean to be condescending but it is clear that many, not specially you, mate, don't know how an interview process like this works.

If Hird is the guy we know he can be, measured, compelling, articulate, unusually eloquent, etc and has a contemporary presentation his recent experience is not relevant.

It all comes down to who they think can implement. He has already done it.

The experience stuff is largely academic. It's how an assistant can argue he can do what Hird has already achieved.
 
BrunoV said:
It's how an assistant can argue he can do what Hird has already achieved.
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Convince an entire playing group - excepting David Zaharakis - to engage in an offsite injecting regime against club doctors instructions resulting in said playing group being suspended from playing for a year?

#leadership
 
BrunoV said:
It all comes down to who they think can implement. He has already done it.
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No he didn't. He demonstrated he doesn't know what he's doing.

Saga aside, which was at least partially his responsibility, he didn’t take an experienced/older side to a single finals win or execute any discernible game plan. Other than a few emotion based wins and swingman Hail Mary's his coaching period was an abject failure.

You’re completely disregarding the aspect of being an assistant that shows you can work as part of a greater club hierarchy. Which is Hird and Essendons weakest demonstrated attribute.
 
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Vander18 said:
The FU to the whole football world is quite appealing.
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It is appealing in that aspect, but imagine how much they would be out to get him everytime we lose a game. Essendon are hardly the finished product and there is still pain to come, the media would make his life as tough as possible. I don’t think the players/ the club needs that right now. We need clean air.
 
BrunoV said:
You've got it backwards.

He's already demonstrated he can apply his knowledge.

All he has to do is demonstrate a contemporary tactical understanding. This is objectively measurable and can be compared to the other candidates.

I genuinely don't mean to be condescending but it is clear that many, not specially you, mate, don't know how an interview process like this works.

If Hird is the guy we know he can be, measured, compelling, articulate, unusually eloquent, etc and has a contemporary presentation his recent experience is not relevant.

It all comes down to who they think can implement. He has already done it.

The experience stuff is largely academic. It's how an assistant can argue he can do what Hird has already achieved.
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I'd disagree. What you're saying is how it is on paper, but with the state the club is in, this will be a HUGELY political appointment.

They're not selecting the best coach. If the person does happen to be that, then great. But it's all about the way Barham and Co can spin the appointment, how safe it is in the area of PR and opinion, what they can do / say / the plausible angles they can use if it all goes very wrong, and how brilliant they will look if it all goes very right. It's about balancing all those things.

Sad but undoubtedly true.
 
Would love to get the thoughts of Essendon people now that Hirdy is part of the process. Most other polls are skewed by haters. Appreciate if you could take a second to vote. Cheers!

 
Red Black and Blue said:
No he didn't. He demonstrated he doesn't know what he's doing.

Saga aside, which was at least partially his responsibility, He didn’t take an experienced, older side to a single finals win or execute any discernible game plan. Other than a few emotion based wins and swingman Hail Marys his coaching period was an abject failure.

You’re also completely disregarding the aspect of being an assistant that shows you can work as part of a greater club hierarchy. Which is Hird and Essendons weakest demonstrated attribute.
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It's not disparaging it reflects the reality that no one has any idea whether these assistants will work.

I've given the list of failures. What about the McRaes and Lyons who were never favoured.

People says that our list of candidates is terrible? WTF does anyone know? Yze could be Clarkson as could Lade or they could also be Neeld or Bolton.

A lot of the industry is buthurt because they've been confronted with the reality that Hird is there on merit. The louder it kicks and screams the more pathetic it is.

If anyone seriously believes Voss got another gig because he is a football genius whose record as a stoppage coach got him the job at Carlton, take a breath and accept the reality that he got the job because he is Voss. Listen to him. All he said was 'contest' when he got the job. But it was the right call for them.

On other matters, Ratten 10 years as a coach, no better than 14 wins. Scott is the same. Dew, the highly qualified expert, has taken 5 years for a 10 win season at the same time he burns top 10 talent with abandon.

There are maybe 5 or 6 coaches worth their weight. How many make their list better than the sum of its parts?
 
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Bunk Moreland said:
I'd disagree. What you're saying is how it is on paper, but with the state the club is in, this will be a HUGELY political appointment.

They're not selecting the best coach. If the person does happen to be that, then great. But it's all about the way Barham and Co can spin the appointment, how safe it is in the area of PR and opinion, what they can do / say / the plausible angles they can use if it all goes very wrong, and how brilliant they will look if it all goes very right. It's about balancing all those things.

Sad but undoubtedly true.
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That's matter for the board. It has nothing to do with the process conducted by the panel.

Everyone wants a process but is preemepting all of these scenarios in which they're refusing to accept its conclusions, primarily because they dont understand what the process is about and how it will work.

I'm not saying I won't accept the panel if they don't choose Hird. I'm saying it is my belief he will convince them he is the man, that's where my money is.
 
BrunoV said:
It's not disparaging it reflects the reality that no one has any idea whether these assistants will work.

I've given the list of failures. What about the McRaes and Lyons who were never favoured.

People says that our list of candidates is terrible? WTF does anyone know? Yze could be Clarkson as could Lade or they could also be Neeld or Bolton.

A lot of the industry is buthurt because they've been confronted with the reality that Hird is there on merit. The louder it kicks and screams the more pathetic it is.

If anyone seriously believes Voss got another gig because he is a football genius whose record as a stoppage coach got him the job at Carlton, take a breath and accept the reality that he got the job because he is Voss. Listen to him. All he said was 'contest' when he got the job. But it was the right call for them.

On other matters, Ratten 10 years as a coach, no better than 14 wins. Scott is the same. Dew, the highly qualified expert, has taken 5 years for a 10 win season at the same time he burns top 10 talent with abandon.

There are maybe 5 or 6 coaches worth their weight. How many make their list better than the sum of its parts?
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We don’t even have a list of candidates. We have Tom Browne standing outside EY all day yesterday to see who he recognises as they walk through the doors…
 
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