Coach Who should be our next coach?

[Lore]

Spoiler: Timeline and reported candidates

15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten

Ben Rutten

Age

41

Ht

190cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.4

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.0

3star

sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney

Josh Mahoney

Age

47

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

(GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon

Dean Solomon

Age

44

Ht

189cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.5

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

17.6

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

2.8

5star

, Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

, Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa

Daniel Giansiracusa

Age

42

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.6

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella

Blake Caracella

Age

47

Ht

186cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.6

3star

will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9

 

[katana]

It's an example. Dew is considered a good coach on a good trajectory.

Hird is an example of what it looks like when a coach wins games as opposed to waiting for an AFL handed glut of first round picks to come good. That's buy in. It certainly doesn't mean perfection. Matthew Nicks is another example of getting buy in with, in this case poor results.

Hird got 11.5, 11 and 14 wins in his first 3 years with a bad list that grew into something reasonable as the likes of Hooker and Carlisle came on. The midfield was horrible.

In 2013 I reckon raw emotion probably gains a win or 2 but then also cost a few or at least resulted is a few fade outs or pummellings. All things considered it was a solid on field year.

It doesn't mean our list was becoming amazing, it's not proof Hird was a coaching genius. To add some other context, Brad Scott, who I respect, has a best H&A season of 14-8.

It's significant because he is being treated as though those seasons never happened. People want to hold up a guy being an assistant for 11 years as though it means more than jack s**t when compared to Hird's actual experience that checks boxes.

then there's 2015... we got cooney, stopped playing youth. that terrible midfield never improved. elephant in the room, no?

alex browne, kurt aylett, and lachy dalgleish were running round in the 2s. howlett and gwilt were playing in the 1s.

 

[BrunoV]

then there's 2015... we got cooney, stopped playing youth. that terrible midfield never improved. elephant in the room, no?

And if that was the be all and end all he won't get an interview.

I assume he can explain it all. I wouldn't agree with those explanations but if politics meant he didn't pick kids when I think he should of done so does that override everything else? Not unless I then ask him about how he would approach things now and the answer indicates he would do the same.

The club did make calls to try to get feel good stories. We know this impacted list management in 2016 and 2017.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Good on him if he is…I want the process to be followed and the panel’s recommendation to be followed. If Hird legitimately wins that process wouldn’t you want him to be hired?

I want whoever wins the process and is recommended by the panel.

On what grounds could Hird come out on top of the selection process? He's been out of it longer than Ross Lyon, and even he seems to have lost his edge.

IMO if he wants to be a senior coach again he can go and do his time as an assistant in some good systems, maybe coach a VFL side to a couple of flags. If he's any good it should be obvious at that point and we wouldn't be at risk of another 5 years of mediocrity while we find out the hard way.

 

[katana]

And if that was the be all and end all he won't get an interview.

I assume he can explain it all. I wouldn't agree with those explanations but if politics meant he didn't pick kids when I think he should of done so does that override everything else? Not unless I then ask him about how he would approach things now and the answer indicates he would do the same.

The club did make calls to try to get feel good stories. We know this impacted list management in 2016 and 2017.

i dont disagree with any points specifically. just that, i don't think the mess hird left this club in (as head coach rightly or wrongly you're considered the top dog in most things) was worth his mediocre on field efforts. hence, i don't want him back.

 

[BomberManU]

Sorry if I have missed this, but where has it been reported Hird is definitely in?

Not sure it has been, that's why I was asking.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

I might be a bit busy this week folks, got some interviews to prepare for and smash.

Posting might be a bit sporadic.

Wish me luck.

 

[footyfanatic111]

Sorry if I have missed this, but where has it been reported Hird is definitely in?

Dustbin posted yesterday that he was told by a reliable source that hird has already been interviewed for the coaching position


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[Mr Mojo Risin]

On what grounds could Hird come out on top of the selection process? He's been out of it longer than Ross Lyon, and even he seems to have lost his edge.

IMO if he wants to be a senior coach again he can go and do his time as an assistant in some good systems, maybe coach a VFL side to a couple of flags. If he's any good it should be obvious at that point and we wouldn't be at risk of another 5 years of mediocrity while we find out the hard way.

All of this has been discussed ad nauseam.

But it’s not my point. I’m not saying I want Hird to win the process. I’m saying good for him if he wants to apply. I want whoever is selected under a proper process by the panel to be hired. It probably won’t be Hird, but if it is then he is who should be hired.

 

[DERO]

If we put Hird in that will pretty much be it for me I reckon.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

If we put Hird in that will pretty much be it for me I reckon.

Well now I do want Hird to win.

 

[Nifft]

If we put Hird in that will pretty much be it for me I reckon.

You'd think that the only way Hird could get it though is if he's been practicing his magic tricks and he makes all the other candidates disappear.

 

[DERO]

Well now I do want Hird to win.

Liar

 

[DERO]

You'd think that the only way Hird could get it though is if he's been practicing his magic tricks and he makes all the other candidates disappear.

Just like the the governance and the spreadsheets yeah?

 

[Lore]

If we put Hird in that will pretty much be it for me I reckon.

If he’s appointed as coach I wonder if all the CEO candidates would bail

 

[Nifft]

Just like the the governance and the spreadsheets yeah?

 

[The Donners]

Walks his dog around moonee ponds from time to time. Not sure of other sightings.

Lacks consistency. Should be walking his dog every day not just when he feels like it. Very Essendon. He’s hired!

 

[eth-dog]

I think we should see what Peverill is up to.

Heavily involved in Therry Penola in the VAFA

 

[Eleven 38]

You'd think that the only way Hird could get it though is if he's been practicing his magic tricks and he makes all the other candidates disappear.

Well the board has done a pretty good job of making half of them disappear already...

 

[The Donners]

Brad Scott is a possibility?

* yes, better than his brother and managed to get a s**t house norf list into final contention

The old saying is a lie! You can actually polish a turd!

 

[The Donners]

What would Buckley know about winning premierships..?

Assistant coach of a premiership team and a kick from being a premiership coach.

 

[Albertross]

Just like the the governance and the spreadsheets yeah?

But not this! How can you dispute this evidence!

 

[Albertross]

The old saying is a lie! You can actually polish a turd!

I find this works best. You need to have a soft touch, but definitely achievable.

 

[boncer34]

Heavily involved in Therry Penola in the VAFA

Thanks Eth

 

[The Donners]

If Yze's cinfident with the way the clubs set up they may hold that against his judgement.

Essendon may want but they don’t need people telling them what they want to hear.

 

[Schnitzengruben]

Can't wait for another month of speculation with "zomg, if ________ gets the job I'm ackchyually done with footy" quips littered ad nauseam.