He is finally making a good fist of it but I reckon my dogs could coach that Carlton list at least into the 8. Remember last year when a team that had Cripps, Walsh, Curnow, McKay, Weitering, Cerra, De Koning, Docherty, Saad, McGovern, Williams etc. lost 6 in a row and were 15th? How is that even possible when half your team are supposed A grade or close to A grade players. Hence, I have Voss reservations.Voss is going ok at Carlton on his 2nd go at it.