You keep saying something in the vicinity of "should they make finals" in your posts, yet you have them at bottom 4 . What would be refreshing from you instead of an each way take, is to say that "they will finish bottom 4 irrespective of the fixture, or run of injuries" its been your stance since October, I'm not sure why you don't run with it in every thread you post in relating to CarltonWon't be an issue for any genuine contenders, regardless of where Carlton finish.