Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[doppleganger]

A PF rematch between Cats and Lions would get 45,000 at the G and inferior TV audience to Carlton v Richmond. Regardless of ladder position Carlton v Richmond is guaranteed 70,000+ and huge TV numbers. It’s going nowhere.


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The 2024 OR season opener game between Sydney and Melbourne had a reach for C7 of 2.15m compared to 1.89m for the Carlton v Richmond game the following week.

The 2023 Carlton v Richmond season opener had reach of 2.14m for C7.

The AFL have already moved on.

In 2025, there will be 35k at the GABBA and again more than 2m+ people nationwide watching the season opener

 

[Fadge]

Funny how people supporters think they are some powerhouse contender, actually even relevent given the last 60 odd years

Yeah, those weird 'people supporters'!

 

[Arr0w]

Yeah, those weird 'people supporters'!

It must be "resonding"

 

[Cyclops]

Collingwood are chokers? Citing 2002 as us choking? Someone needs to watch a bit more football.

In the last 3 seasons we've made a feature if winning close games. We beat a brilliantly skilled Lions in a Grand Final by not choking, after winning two finals by not choking.

ITT Carlton supporters living in the past, specifically a short period where they rorted 8 flags.

The current game has left them behind. Pies shaping up for another flag tilt, Blues wondering why their "top heavy forward line" 1990s game plan fails in finals.

 

[Worm4]

The current game has left them behind. Pies shaping up for another flag tilt, Blues wondering why their "top heavy forward line" 1990s game plan fails in finals.

Does the current game allow for a dozen players or so over the age of 30 to compete over a full season of AFL ? Time will tell , but I doubt it. Trying to reinvent the wheel with so many old dudes is a brave call , and one that hasn't been done before, but hey, good luck with that

 

[Fadge]

Does the current game allow for a dozen players or so over the age of 30 to compete over a full season of AFL ? Time will tell , but I doubt it. Trying to reinvent the wheel with so many old dudes is a brave call , and one that hasn't been done before, but hey, good luck with that

Tell us more about this wheel Collingwood are trying to reinvent?

 

[Fadge]

Does the current game allow for a dozen players or so over the age of 30 to compete over a full season of AFL ? Time will tell , but I doubt it. Trying to reinvent the wheel with so many old dudes is a brave call , and one that hasn't been done before, but hey, good luck with that

Yeah, we could have instead traded out some of our proven and experienced 'old dudes' and went to the draft to pick up 'unproven kids', and in the process ensured we had no chance of contending for a premiership...

I'm not sure Carlton supporters, who are continually bullish about their own team's premiership credentials though continue to be disappointed year in year out, should be offering advice around what goes into building a list to contend for premierships.

 

[Worm4]

Tell us more about this wheel Collingwood are trying to reinvent?

No team has won a flag with such a high age demographic. It's called "never been done before". That new wheel....

 

[Fadge]

No team has won a flag with such a high age demographic. It's called "never been done before". That new wheel....

Oh, so the wheel that has never been invented?

That wheel?

English lesson 576 - maybe the term you were looking for is 'going to the well'?

 

[Worm4]

I'm not sure Carlton supporters, who are continually bullish about their own team's premiership credentials though continue to be disappointed year in year out, should be offering advice around what goes into building a list to contend for premierships.

Collingwood are now building a list set up for failure. It's glorious to watch

 

[Worm4]

Oh, so the wheel that has never been invented?

That wheel?

English lesson 576 - maybe the term you were looking for is 'going to the well'?

Huh - How do I resond to that ?

 

[Arr0w]

Yeah, we could have instead traded out some of our proven and experienced 'old dudes' and went to the draft to pick up 'unproven kids', and in the process ensured we had no chance of contending for a premiership...

I'm not sure Carlton supporters, who are continually bullish about their own team's premiership credentials though continue to be disappointed year in year out, should be offering advice around what goes into building a list to contend for premierships.

You're right, worked well for the Pies trading out Ginivian for peanuts and gaining Schultz for a 1st and 2nd

 

[Fadge]

Collingwood are now building a list set up for failure. It's glorious to watch

Now that is something a Carlton supporter would know only too well.

Appreciate the advice, although he have heard it all before leading into the 2022 season...

 

[Fadge]

Huh - How do I resond to that ?

You don't, because it wasn't said to you.

You just worry about 'people supporters' and laying off 100 to 1 bets when the odds are reduced to 40 to 1, to claim guaranteed 60 to 1 odds.

 

[Worm4]

Now that is something a Carlton supporter would know only too well.

Appreciate the advice.

Good to see you taking it on board. It's nice to prepare in advance at times

 

[Arr0w]

You don't, because it wasn't said to you.

You just worry about 'people supporters' and laying off 100 to 1 bets when the odds are reduced to 40 to 1, to claim guaranteed 60 to 1 odds.

You mean the wager you placed but claimed others made?

Trending up or loading up?

 

[Worm4]

You don't, because it wasn't said to you.

You just worry about 'people supporters' and laying off 100 to 1 bets when the odds are reduced to 40 to 1, to claim guaranteed 60 to 1 odds.

I don't even know what you are talking about here ? I don't even gamble. Someone else perhaps ?

 

[Robertio]

Far too much information that I certainly didn't ask for or care about.

And we have heard it all before about Collingwood imminent demise, as recently as leading into the 2022 season.

How many times have you said this now? Keep bringing 2022 up and then think about how much older your older players have gotten.

 

[Fadge]

I don't even know what you are talking about here ? I don't even gamble. Someone else perhaps ?

Oh, assumed it was PinnochiArr0w with that comment.

You're copying PinnochiArr0w... how low can one go?

 

[Arr0w]

Oh, assumed it was PinnochiArr0w with that comment.

You're copying PinnochiArr0w... how low can one go?

Back to petty name calling, it's so predictable Fudgenator

 

[Fadge]

Back to petty name calling, it's so predictable Fudgenator

There's irony in hypocrisy.

 

[doppleganger]

How many times have you said this now? Keep bringing 2022 up and then think about how much older your older players have gotten.

Come on Rob, all players will be 3 years older in 2025 then they were in 2022 shouldn't need an abacus for that.

What is important to note is that of the 2025 Pies list of 42 players, that only 22 were on the 2022 list.

Clubs churn over their list all the time and we heard all the doom and gloom back in 2021/22 that the list was too old, no youth, no draft picks so enjoy a rebuild.

 

[carlton_99]

Indeed it was. The question begs - how did Carlton mismanage things so much that a generational superstar who supported them as a child was so disillusioned by his own side's actions and fortunes, that he had to take the safe route of getting drafted to its more competent arch-rival, in order to save his only football career from drowning?

Can you explain in what universe Carlton had a chance of taking Daicos in the draft? Does it involve Daicos rejecting F/S and then Carlton getting him with their first pick of the draft at 27?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Can you explain in what universe Carlton had a chance of taking Daicos in the draft? Does it involve Daicos rejecting F/S and then Carlton getting him with their first pick of the draft at 27?

The same universe that saw Carlton end up with pick 3 this year

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[carlton_99]

The same universe that saw Carlton end up with pick 3 this year

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If Daicos wasn't a father/son he would have been taken at pick 1 or pick 2. Impossible to get up that far in a draft with JHF and Daicos in it.