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I would have Ned Long as a D- or E grade player
Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4
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I would have Ned Long as a D- or E grade player
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Apparently he's a better player than Kennedy or Owies though?
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he started sub and was borderline best 22 a lot of the season. Sounds like a C grade player to me.
My God these Carlton supporters are precious...
How dare anyone regard George Hewett as a C Grader!
A Graders for Collingwood are N. Daicos, D. Houston, D. Moore (at his best) and J. De Goey (at his best). Moore and De Goey weren't at their best in 2024.
A B Grader would be someone like Tom Mitchell in 2023. 4th in Collingwood's best and fairest in a premiership year, and a great finals series.
Can you imagine the flak I'd cop if I referred to Tom Mitchell as an A Grader after his 2023 season?
Have George Hewett or Blake Acres produced anything near what Tom Mitchell produced in 2023?
Josh Daicos - 2023 All Australian and best and fairest in a premiership year. He needs to have more than one year like that to be regarded as an A Grader, so I have him as a B Grader (potential A Grader).
Bobby Hill has a Norm Smith Medal to his name, but he is not (yet) an A Grader - he needs more consistency to get to that level.
The problem with Carlton is how quickly they drop away after their best players.
Cripps, Weitering and Curnow are A Graders. Harry returned to A Grader in 2024, after performing below that level in 2022/23. Walsh at his best is an A Grader, but fluctuates with injury. De Koning is an emerging A Grader.
I'd class someone like Nic Newman as a B Grader the last couple of seasons. Saad was a B Grader but is declining. Cerra a B Grader when fit.
But I reckon that's it.
How dare anyone regard George Hewett as a C Grader!
A Graders for Collingwood are N. Daicos, D. Houston, D. Moore (at his best) and J. De Goey (at his best). Moore and De Goey weren't at their best in 2024.
A B Grader would be someone like Tom Mitchell in 2023. 4th in Collingwood's best and fairest in a premiership year, and a great finals series.
Can you imagine the flak I'd cop if I referred to Tom Mitchell as an A Grader after his 2023 season?
Have George Hewett or Blake Acres produced anything near what Tom Mitchell produced in 2023?
Josh Daicos - 2023 All Australian and best and fairest in a premiership year. He needs to have more than one year like that to be regarded as an A Grader, so I have him as a B Grader (potential A Grader).
Bobby Hill has a Norm Smith Medal to his name, but he is not (yet) an A Grader - he needs more consistency to get to that level.
The problem with Carlton is how quickly they drop away after their best players.
Cripps, Weitering and Curnow are A Graders. Harry returned to A Grader in 2024, after performing below that level in 2022/23. Walsh at his best is an A Grader, but fluctuates with injury. De Koning is an emerging A Grader.
I'd class someone like Nic Newman as a B Grader the last couple of seasons. Saad was a B Grader but is declining. Cerra a B Grader when fit.
But I reckon that's it.
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getting a lot of possessions is pretty meaningless unless he does something with them
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He played 22 games this year, some were as sub, most were not.
As anyone who's watched us play over the last couple years would know... Cripps, Cerra, Hewett, Kennedy is just far too slow as a midfield unit and thus the coaches often didn't play all of them together.
Kennedy went through the same, despite being another quality player who would play every week at plenty of clubs.
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Hewetts stats last time he played the Pies...
32 disposals
20 contested possessions
12 clearances
3 tackles
11 score involvements
2 goal assists
5 marks
75% Disposal Efficiency
Please someone tell me which "C grade players" produce games of that level???
32 disposals
20 contested possessions
12 clearances
3 tackles
11 score involvements
2 goal assists
5 marks
75% Disposal Efficiency
Please someone tell me which "C grade players" produce games of that level???
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Fancy recruiting players who don't fit the side. I know. lets go through the draft and pick some more
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Hewitt for one.
I could find players in all sides that had one of those games. But fact is he is borderline best 22 in a team that won 13 games last year. so C grade
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Please tell me some C grade player from Collingwood for comparison
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Are u stupid or just pretending to be for the sake of trolling?
One of his career best games, in which he was duly awarded a Brownlow vote.
Midfielder with 18 Brownlow votes from 179 career games.
I know he has a strong defensive element to his game, but he's a C Grader, no matter how you spin it.
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Saad the All Australian player was a B grader but declining what the hell does ur drug dealer put in ur weed Fudge
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Wrong again on both counts.
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We have heaps, Maybe 10 or so from the premiership side but they do their job.
We have a few D and E players too.
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this has been your problem since you hit rock bottom lol you guys just cant see it
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lets not forget they also lost that game
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Moore is a B grade player now, he had one good season.
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Name them please for comparison
Robertio
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B grade every day of the week, Mitchell is now a C grader.
C graders is harsh.
Draftguru has them as B graders, which is fair.
For comparison M.Cox and WHE are a couple the Pies B-graders.
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Lipinski McReery Cox (but he is there for our structure and will never be dropped) Sidey is now but is worth playing for his experience. Howe Frampton Markov WHE
From the 2023 team Adams and Noble were also C graders
From the 2023 team Adams and Noble were also C graders
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Can you tell us the names of the Pies C graders for comparison please Fudge... You keep avoiding it (we all know why)
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