Will Collingwood try to move Grundy on with that contract?

[Cleric]

A seven year contract at 1 million a year. In hindsight it was way overs. His form has dropped off and Collingwood cap is still tight after off loading Phillips, Stevo and Treloar at the end of last year. Not only did they lose those players but are actually paying for some of them to play for the other clubs.
Meanwhile Grundy has just started his contract.

Will, or should, Collingwood try and move the contract and Grundy on?
Their Premiership window has closed a bit, and Grundy just isn't worth that coin.
Would you rather have Grundy on a million a year, or a good ruckman like say ROB for 350k a year?

Who would be interested in taking on Grundy and that contract?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Nah they won't move him on. They'll try to reset quickly and get back to playing finals while Grundy is still up and running.

 

[00Stinger]

Just wait until they back end it into a 10 year 7 million deal with 5 million of that owing in his last 2 years

 

[Sterge]

A seven year contract at 1 million a year. In hindsight it was way overs. His form has dropped off and Collingwood cap is still tight after off loading Phillips, Stevo and Treloar at the end of last year. Not only did they lose those players but are actually paying for some of them to play for the other clubs.
Meanwhile Grundy has just started his contract.

Will, or should, Collingwood try and move the contract and Grundy on?
Their Premiership window has closed a bit, and Grundy just isn't worth that coin.
Would you rather have Grundy on a million a year, or a good ruckman like say ROB for 350k a year?

Who would be interested in taking on Grundy and that contract?

No one would take it, if they did move him on they would be stuck paying a large part of it regardless

 

[Sweet Jesus]

De Goey is the one they should be trading.

He'll be a FA next year and they're not going to want to pay him $4 million over five years to keep him. They should cash him out a year early, probably for future picks.

 

[markm106]

I can’t imagine anyone picking up the 1 million dollars. And I can’t imagine Collingwood being keen on paying a player big bucks to play elsewhere.

 

[Baird]

They shouldn't because he's a good footballer and Collingwood have very few of those.
But it's Collingwood, so who knows.

 

[M Malice]

Collingwood are such an altruistic organisation so IMO they will make the sacrifice and move him on for his own good.

 

[LeverPuller]

Needs someone desperately wanting a top end ruck. Can only see the Suns or Giants being desperate enough.

 

[CaptchaProofBot]

wouldn't it be unthinkable for Pies to be paying for both Treloar and Grundy to play against them next year ? wot if Grundy goes to the Dogs ?

 

[PAFC_1870]

Should have been contenders last year, should be this year and years to come.

Never seen a club self implode as bad as this. Probably worse then Adelaide 17 imo.

I'd move on others first, notably Sidebottom. DeGoey unfortunately, like Wingard, could be world beater but instead an under achiever.

 

[tigers_of_old_08]

How did such a professional organisation get their finances so wrong??
They’re not just financially inept, they have a history culture issues, a delusional ex-President, and poor player management such as the handling of Treloar.

Will they move Grundy on? It’ll be interesting to see how the new Prez handles issues such as this.

 

[WillHayward]

Should move on one of Grundy or JDG.

Whichever they get the best offer for.

They need early draft picks.

 

[WillHayward]

Should have been contenders last year, should be this year and years to come.

Never seen a club self implode as bad as this. Probably worse then Adelaide 17 imo.

I'd move on others first, notably Sidebottom. DeGoey unfortunately, like Wingard, could be world beater but instead an under achiever.

Wouldn't get much for Sidebottom anymore.

 

[Firebat]

They're paying overs but he's still a premier big man in the comp and they don't come around often. Another poster mentioned De Geoy and I am 100% in agreement - he is the guy who should go to help free up the cap.

Another one is Sidebottom. Both of them combined would be a sizable contract and you can replace their output alot easier than that of Grundy.

 

[master bate]

Will be 28 and on a 6 year 6 million dollar contract in April next year. Who would want that?

Unfortunately free agency comes too late in players careers and creates these issues where they chase huge deals for years that go well beyond their peak.

I'm genuinely interested to know who the underbidders on Grundy were though.

GWS have needed a ruck for a while but Flynn is very promising and the Giants have their own cap issues.
Sydney just gave Hickey 3 years.
I guess the Dogs might've had a nibble rather than Stef Martin but Bevo has hardly ever been a fan of rucks - although he likes rucks that function as mids and that's what Grundy does.

Carlton had cash to burn last year, Geelong might've considered it but Scott's also not a ruck fan.

I never saw the logic in the Crows moving on from ROB who's very serviceable and surely about a third of the price. That one didn't make sense for me.

Collingwood took until January to then sign him for a 7 year deal. Very confusing. Once they waited until January they may as well have just waited until October.

 

[HairyO]

How long is Goldstein going to keep playing?

Would the Roos want him for $800k ?

 

[The 747]

De Goey is the one they should be trading.

He'll be a FA next year and they're not going to want to pay him $4 million over five years to keep him. They should cash him out a year early, probably for future picks.

Given how things have been going for Collingwood he will probably get convicted of the charges and be worth nothing.

 

[master bate]

Collingwood's list draft value guide (excluding recent picks):

Darcy Moore

30

Darcy Moore

Age

28

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

-multiple top 10 picks, sell the farm for him
Josh Daicos

7

Josh Daicos

Age

25

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.3

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.5

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

-10-15
Quaynor, Maynard, Adams -14-18, can argue higher but I don't think they play positions worth big investments
Crisp, Elliott, Mihocek, Sidebottom, Howe - something in the 2nd
Grundy - untradeable
De Goey - your entire pride.
Everyone else 3rd round or nothing.

I don't see Collingwood being able to trade their way in to picks and out of the cap drama. I'd imagine the cap drama starts to resolve itself naturally now they've done the heavy lifting over the next year or so with a few veterans going and others coming out of big contracts in to more team friendly veteran deals.

Otherwise they had 5 picks in the top 31 for a reason last year and will add Nick Daicos later this year, they don't need to desperately hunt draft picks.

Sidebottom and Howe have plenty of good footy left in them and everyone else of note is young enough to absolutely be there for a quick bounce back. The only player they're really under time pressure for is Pendles and I reckon he either has a Burgoyne style long end coming or he might accept his fate at some stage and it's not like he got a raw deal. He played in a lot of finals sides!

 

[RAPPA]

I don’t see collingwood ever trying to move on a contracted player

 

[Milanista28]

Pay half his salary and the Cats would take him

 

[master bate]

How long is Goldstein going to keep playing?

Would the Roos want him for $800k ?

The timing to replace Goldstein would be nice and he'd be good for 3 or 4 years but then you're jeopardising your cap in the last 2-3 years. Maybe the cap has gone up enough by then that you can wear 800k but North are probably planning to have a bunch of talented youngsters on their 2nd or 3rd contracts by that stage and if all goes to play will be chasing gun recruits too.

I think if you're North you'd want to be able to pay him 1M a year for the next 3 then 500k a year for the last 3 but I don't think the AFL allow that.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Should have been contenders last year, should be this year and years to come.

Never seen a club self implode as bad as this. Probably worse then Adelaide 17 imo.

I'd move on others first, notably Sidebottom. DeGoey unfortunately, like Wingard, could be world beater but instead an under achiever.

Quite a few issues but just like Adelaide appears they horribly mismanaged their salaries and are paying ridiculous amounts to some while having to offload other handy players.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

I can’t imagine anyone picking up the 1 million dollars. And I can’t imagine Collingwood being keen on paying a player big bucks to play elsewhere.

You mean again, right?

 

[citizen-erased]

Who has the picks to burn & salary cap space?
It would be a narrow market for the Pies.