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I love English pitches they give balance and the Duke ball is a mile better
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I love English pitches they give balance and the Duke ball is a mile better
That was exactly in my thoughts as well.
If it was a bad days play, people would be complaining about Warner, Warners wife, Warners children, the selectors or CA.
Good days play and you can guarantee they turn to over rates or the pitch.
So so predictable.
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Yeah, always preferred bowling with it, leaves some nasty fonts in your bay though.
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My thoughts:
1) Rohit's decision to bowl was short-sighted. He was obviously seduced by the green tinge on the pitch and the temporary cloud cover. The problem is that The Oval's always been very good for batting and the weather forecast for Day 1 indicated that the clouds would clear. Lo and behold, after a pretty challenging first hour, the clouds cleared up and batting became easier. That IND's bowlers weren't fully at the races (and conditions didn't suit Siraj when the clouds cleared) didn't help.
2) I thought that IND's selection was too conservative. It wasn't so much Jajeda's selection over Ashwin which surprised me - Ashwin would have more left-handers to bowl to, but Jadeja's record against us is excellent - but Bharat over Kishan. Bharat can score quickly and is a good wicketkeeper, but Kishan's style is more like Pant's. Also, Kishan would be a debutant, and IND's debutants do quite well against us.
3) As for Head, what can I say? Another counterattacking classic to rank with his GABBA and Hobart efforts. Smith was a perfect foil for him, absorbing deliveries at the other end so that IND's bowlers were too worn down to tie Head down.
1) Rohit's decision to bowl was short-sighted. He was obviously seduced by the green tinge on the pitch and the temporary cloud cover. The problem is that The Oval's always been very good for batting and the weather forecast for Day 1 indicated that the clouds would clear. Lo and behold, after a pretty challenging first hour, the clouds cleared up and batting became easier. That IND's bowlers weren't fully at the races (and conditions didn't suit Siraj when the clouds cleared) didn't help.
2) I thought that IND's selection was too conservative. It wasn't so much Jajeda's selection over Ashwin which surprised me - Ashwin would have more left-handers to bowl to, but Jadeja's record against us is excellent - but Bharat over Kishan. Bharat can score quickly and is a good wicketkeeper, but Kishan's style is more like Pant's. Also, Kishan would be a debutant, and IND's debutants do quite well against us.
3) As for Head, what can I say? Another counterattacking classic to rank with his GABBA and Hobart efforts. Smith was a perfect foil for him, absorbing deliveries at the other end so that IND's bowlers were too worn down to tie Head down.
A dominant day for Australia and barring a massive collapse a declaration after tea having amassed 500 odd runs should take place.
I'm not sure Cummins could believe he was batting first after losing the toss, while condtions were tempting gee bowling first in a one off test final was a huge gamble - that obviously failed.
I also find it odd that a team who finished 2nd on the WTC table only needs to draw the final (one test) to share the trophy/accolades as World Champions..? Accordingly, I'll be shocked if India's run rate in their 1st innings reply is anything near Australia's current 3.5/over, because a drawn test is as good as a win for them....
I'm not sure Cummins could believe he was batting first after losing the toss, while condtions were tempting gee bowling first in a one off test final was a huge gamble - that obviously failed.
I also find it odd that a team who finished 2nd on the WTC table only needs to draw the final (one test) to share the trophy/accolades as World Champions..? Accordingly, I'll be shocked if India's run rate in their 1st innings reply is anything near Australia's current 3.5/over, because a drawn test is as good as a win for them....
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Cummins said he'd have bowled first too so I'd say he wouldn't have been that surprised.
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He always says that, though.
I don't think he really means it; he's just trying to show solidarity with a fellow sportsman.
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I mean it was only the 5th time he's lost the toss as Test captain and 2 of those were at Rawalpindi and Galle where everyone would have obviously wanted to bat first. The other two were during the last Ashes and going off the Cricinfo commentary at Brisbane he said he'd have batted (England chose to bat) but didn't really mind bowling first and at Hobart he said he'd have bowled which England also did on a greentop but again said he didn't mind losing the toss as he was 50/50.
Came here for the comments still potting Trav after he proved everyone wrong yet again.
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You think that's what I'm doing? Batsmen are always working on technical aspects of their game.
Sorry I don't get all SA centric & blinkered to weaknesses.
Mind you, irrespective of the state of play, over rates are pathetic and something that really needs to be addressed by cricket authorities. It's getting worse. 23 overs for the entire 1st session should not be tolerated.
As for the pitch, having not seen it myself, I was sucked in by both captains saying they would bowl first, and further sucked in by India leaving out their best bowler. It's a growing trend in Test cricket that I'm not liking, they see a little bit of green and get all excited.
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think if any opposition captain is stupid enough to bowl first, you say you would have as well. Want him to think he made a good decision and encourage him to do it again in the future.
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Yep when im captain and lose the toss, ill always agree with the winning toss captains decision. puts doubts in their minds as to whether im genuine or not.
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Hayden
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What a top 3 on the field.
in the comm box, have they had too much sugar?
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What a top 3 on the field.
in the comm box, have they had too much sugar?
Compared to what they played in in India…
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Opposition teams often go with 5-6 in the deep after a while anyway while someone like Head or Brook is batting well. But that just makes it easy for them to farm singles
I think if they had a match fit Bumrah in the team, maybe I could understand to a degree, but you wouldn't say that Indian pace quartet was really all that menacing. Shami and Siraj bowled some useful seeds in their early spells, but Yadav in particular bowled rubbish.
The side that batted first has lost all three County games at The Oval this year.
On 13 April, Hampshire won the toss and batted, and were 6/114, before recovering to 254. Surrey ended up chasing 247 in the fourth inning, with the loss of just one wicket
On 11 May, Surrey won the toss and bowled. They had Middlesex all out for 209 in 67 overs, and Surrey ended up winning by 9 wickets.
On 18 May, Surrey again won the toss and bowled. They had Kent at 7/118 before an 80-run 10th wicket partnership got them 278. Still, they were all out on day 1. Surrey pissed it in, winning by 10 wickets, having to chase only 58 for victory.
And last night, at 3/76 just after lunch, bowling first didn’t look like such a bad idea. I think the decision to bowl was fine, they just bowled worse than they should have, and we took advantage.
On 13 April, Hampshire won the toss and batted, and were 6/114, before recovering to 254. Surrey ended up chasing 247 in the fourth inning, with the loss of just one wicket
On 11 May, Surrey won the toss and bowled. They had Middlesex all out for 209 in 67 overs, and Surrey ended up winning by 9 wickets.
On 18 May, Surrey again won the toss and bowled. They had Kent at 7/118 before an 80-run 10th wicket partnership got them 278. Still, they were all out on day 1. Surrey pissed it in, winning by 10 wickets, having to chase only 58 for victory.
And last night, at 3/76 just after lunch, bowling first didn’t look like such a bad idea. I think the decision to bowl was fine, they just bowled worse than they should have, and we took advantage.
No arguments here - you know what you are going to get at The Oval - the fact that Tests are usually played at the back end of the season is a deadset furphy. The hype over the grass clearly sucked them all in
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Read a comment on CricIndia from a ring in last night that the bowlers were tired after the IPL and it wasn't time for India to panic because the standard would lift day 4 and 5.
If they're tired day 1 how are they going to be 4 and 5.
If they're tired day 1 how are they going to be 4 and 5.
Surrey are clearly the best team in the Championship
Also can't create a backfire on you, if you say you were always gonna bat and then get rolled for 80 then you look like a dunce
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