Covid-19 Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 4 - Ivermectin doesn't work either.

[Chief]

Continued in Part 5:

Covid-19 - Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 5 - Get vaccinated.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/in-focus/covid-19-vaccination-case-surveillance-051121.pdf In the peak fortnight of the outbreak to date (25 August to 7 September), the COVID-19 case rate among 2-dose vaccinated people was 49.5 per 100,000 while in unvaccinated...

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[Seeds]

Agree
There's also that group who have effectively "checked out" of society who will be hard to reach

Yep and this group never responds to the surveys.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

We have just seen it with AstraZeneca. People scared of blood clots that are as rare as winning tattslotto. there are lots of irrational people in society who don’t know how To understand probabilities. They read one story of a kid having vaccine complications and dying and that’s all it takes to change their mind. The misinformation that all kids vaccines were tested for a decade before used on kids also is a major problem.

government doesnt control the message anymore with social media.

I think this is exacerbated by genuine trust issues society has with all levels of government (and their health advisers).

 

[Frank Bunn]

127 rolling 7 day average deaths today in the UK.

Im well on track for my prediction of 200 by the 14th of next month. Looks like we'll hit that figure by the 7th.

Huh?

 

[Malifice]

Huh?

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I was getting my numbers from this:

covid uk - Google Search

And the graph there gives me a 7 day average of 127 on the 28th.

 

[Frank Bunn]

I was getting my numbers from this:

covid uk - Google Search

And the graph there gives me a 7 day average of 127 on the 28th.

Check again. Deaths 127, 7 day average 76.

 

[Malifice]

Check again. Deaths 127, 7 day average 76.

Ah ok. Still on an upwards trajectory.

Nowhere near as bad as before though.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Ah ok. Still on an upwards trajectory.

Nowhere near as bad as before though.

Yeah, it's good news. The cases peaked on July 17 and have declined considerably, so hopefully the deaths will start to tail off soon too. There's usually about a 12 to 14 days lag between the two charts.

 

[Deliverance]

Great news and gives me great hope for us, especially with them having almost 30 million unvaxxed people and Delta the dominant strain.

 

[Seeds]

Morrison just announced thé targets. too high although at least not as high as thé doherty institutes numbers.

 

[Frank Bunn]

The AstraZeneca vaccine got a lot of bad press for its reported adverse reactions, in particular blood clots. The US has still not approved it. Many European countries suspended its use. The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation changed its advice a number of times. First recommending that Pfizer was preferred for those under 50, then later for those under 60. You could easily get the message that the Pfizer vaccine was the one to get.

But what is the evidence that the AstraZeneca vaccine has greater risk than the Pfizer vaccine? How much did politics and money play in the story?

The Europeans saw Astrazeneca as a British solution and blocked it. Why is not approved for emergency use in the US when Pfizer is? Could it be that the Pfizer vaccine has generated massive profits, but the Astrazeneca vaccine not so much.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Morrison just announced thé targets. too high although at least not as high as thé doherty institutes numbers.

1st target 70% doesn't really mean shit.
2nd target is 80%, same as Doherty institute. That's when things start changing.

 

[Present Not Past]

I can see a time when being unvaccinated becomes a political football. It will be a race to see who can punish unvaccinated people the most.

 

[Seeds]

1st target 70% doesn't really mean sh*t.
2nd target is 80%, same as Doherty institute. That's when things start changing.

no not the same as dohertys. Doherty had 80 percent of the entire population. the stage 3 is 80 percent of eligible adults. Massive difference. It’s under 70 percent of total population.

 

[Seeds]

I can see a time when being unvaccinated becomes a political football. It will be a race to see who can punish unvaccinated people the most.

Can’t wait. Will it be legal to punch them in the face?

 

[Deliverance]

I can see a time when being unvaccinated becomes a political football. It will be a race to see who can punish unvaccinated people the most.

 

[mcnulty]

I‘m all for giving everyone the chance to get the jab and letting the unvaccinated fend for themselves. Trouble is, here and elsewhere were seeing these people ending up in hospitals. This indirectly effects others who need those services for unrelated matters. If ICUs are clogged up with covid patients they are unavailable for others.

Solution: charge unvaccinated covid hospital patients for their stay. See if the prospect of 4 grand a day not picked up by the taxpayer gives them a change of heart. If not, at least we can claw some money back for the more deserving.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Can’t wait. Will it be legal to punch them in the face?

Maybe put them on trains to take them to camps to be re-educated. Or gassed.

 

[Deliverance]

I‘m all for giving everyone the chance to get the jab and letting the unvaccinated fend for themselves. Trouble is, here and elsewhere were seeing these people ending up in hospitals. This indirectly effects others who need those services for unrelated matters. If ICUs are clogged up with covid patients they are unavailable for others.

Solution: charge unvaccinated covid hospital patients for their stay. See if the prospect of 4 grand a day not picked up by the taxpayer gives them a change of heart. If not, at least we can claw some money back for the more deserving.

I'm OK with that as long as we charge people who have preventable diabetes, hypertension and cardiac disease. Obesity is a massive drain on the health system.

 

[Seeds]

Maybe put them on trains to take them to camps to be re-educated. Or gassed.

Nice try. cant compare préjudice against race with prejudice against dangerous idiocy that threatens us all. but nice try.

 

[mcnulty]

I'm OK with that as long as we charge people who have preventable diabetes, hypertension and cardiac disease. Obesity is a massive drain on the health system.

Unworkable. This is workable. Yes-no.

 

[Deaneus!]

snd we’ve barely finished ignoring this epidemic

 

[Rob R]

snd we’ve barely finished ignoring this epidemic

And soon will be the propaganda announcements of how they smashed it and evil foreigners are to blame and if anyone dares to disagree they will suddenly die like the whistleblowers in 2019.

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[Royal Flush]

I'm OK with that as long as we charge people who have preventable diabetes, hypertension and cardiac disease. Obesity is a massive drain on the health system.

Oh no you've just called out the fat campaigners.

Fatism

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[sdfc]

Unworkable. This is workable. Yes-no.

So if discrimination is workable it's okay?

 

[mcnulty]

So if discrimination is workable it's okay?

Call it incentivisation. The French have a better idea- keep the mouth breathing anti vax halfwits from going to restaurants or football matches.

But I’m willing to be a bit more conciliatory.