Covid-19 Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 4 - Ivermectin doesn't work either.

[Chief]

Continued in Part 5:

Covid-19 - Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 5 - Get vaccinated.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/in-focus/covid-19-vaccination-case-surveillance-051121.pdf In the peak fortnight of the outbreak to date (25 August to 7 September), the COVID-19 case rate among 2-dose vaccinated people was 49.5 per 100,000 while in unvaccinated...

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[Rodney Dangerfield]

#tomstake



"Organisers" were actually just instigators who didn't even show up.

No marshals. No first aid. No police liaison. No concrete goals or demands apart from "stop it!".

Just some memes that flew around the sh*t end of the web and encouraged anti-vaxxers to show up in their freshly laundered hi-vis.

Some were definitely union members, pilled by the anti-vax-o-sphere. But it was not a "union protest" or any sort of "strike".

The unions have created their own problem here by fence-sitting until the choice on how to handle vaccination among their members was no longer theirs.

From a Union perspective though it’s probably better to have the Government force the hand rather than the Union.
It’s been coming for a long while in all industries but this industries issues with it in particular was always going to be infiltrated by the protesters and the bikies.
Emergency services sectors and unions are in a very similar position but obviously it won’t go down this path.
Unfortunately though I can see no way possible the vaccination targets forecast for restrictions to lift will be met.

 

[Chief]

From a Union perspective though it’s probably better to have the Government force the hand rather than the Union.

I don't think so at all. The union could have been pushing vaccination all year. Working out the issues. Meeting members. Educating people.

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

I don't think so at all. The union could have been pushing vaccination all year. Working out the issues. Meeting members. Educating people.

Well to be fair it hasn’t really been a very smooth roll out information wise, unions have been told SFA and until such time do have a responsibility to listen to all members. It’s the minority of members but they all pay the same, it’s fence sitting but it’s no different to what Governments and Businesses have done.
Starts at the top for mine.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Unions are a joke in this country.

Will be like Chinese miners sooner than later

 

[Chief]

it’s fence sitting but it’s no different to what Governments and Businesses have done.

They have to be better than that, though. Morrison shouldn't be the acceptable standard.

 

[Mindtraveller]

The potential is not there.

The results of all of the studies do not point in any one direction. They are all over the place when viewed in total. Some are completely fraudulent. There is no proper, consistent evidence that it does anything but screw up your digestive system.

Not for doing human trials, it's been rushed on a x35 approved dose maybe. Worth continuing (funded by Merck) to find another use or if it could be paired with something to boost its effectiveness at lower concentrations. Shouldn't of made human trials

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

They have to be better than that, though. Morrison shouldn't be the acceptable standard.

I agree but it’s a very, very divisive issue which is the last thing unions really want either. The members of unions not wanting vaccination have been on the front foot about this from very early on, since last year basically and digging in.
There will still be many more issues yet too through other sectors and unions , some such as emergency services who have far more unvaccinated than people believe.
At the moment it’s purely based off a tick and flick survey where some of the ones not wanting to be jabbed have just ticked the box saying they are vaccinated.
The mandating in these fields is going to be another interesting stage.

 

[Hawk Dork]

I agree but it’s a very, very divisive issue which is the last thing unions really want either. The members of unions not wanting vaccination have been on the front foot about this from very early on, since last year basically and digging in.
There will still be many more issues yet too through other sectors and unions , some such as emergency services who have far more unvaccinated than people believe.
At the moment it’s purely based off a tick and flick survey where some of the ones not wanting to be jabbed have just ticked the box saying they are vaccinated.
The mandating in these fields is going to be another interesting stage.

Vax passport will sort them out or the ronna

 

[Crankyhawk]

Not for doing human trials, it's been rushed on a x35 approved dose maybe. Worth continuing (funded by Merck) to find another use or if it could be paired with something to boost its effectiveness at lower concentrations. Shouldn't of made human trials

human trials happen via desperation (thinking pre vaccine/ low availability in areas like INdia etc) THen data from these events can inform the conversation.

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Vax passport will sort them out or the ronna

Eventually

 

[Deaneus!]

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

 

[Hawk Dork]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_rZUS6VcAEvnU0?format=jpg&name=medium

 

[parsons nose]

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

It breaks my heart that the medics indulge these individual. It should be legislated they are denied medical treatment.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Sorry you mean 8 in vaccination group and 162 in placebo else that would clearly be a failed vaccine.

Oops. Yes of course.

It’s not narrative change it’s evolving data.

I believe it is a narrative change. The drugs were given emergency authorisation on the basis that the trials showed they stopped infection. It's not true but no one even talks about that any more. With the low rate of infection prevention we are seeing, the drugs would not have been emergency authorised.

The story now is that the shots prevent serious illness. The evolving data shows that's true for the elderly. Not so much for under 50s and negligible for under 30s.

There is insufficient data on vaccinating pregnant people, children, and people who have recovered from Covid. Insufficient data on booster shots. But the relentless drive to vaccinate anything that has a pulse continues.

If the evolving data for infection prevention is different from that found in the trials then it raises the question of whether the real world safety of the drugs is different to the trials. The vaccine trials have to have rigorous monitoring of adverse affects but this is lost once you start rolling out to the masses. For example, the TGA's adverse events notification system is not well known to the general public and is on a voluntary reporting basis. A month ago I called them to report a potentially life threatening adverse event to a drug. The operators were all busy - the recorded message said to raise it online. A month later no one has called me to ask about it, and it has not registered on their database.

 

[Chief]

There is insufficient data on vaccinating pregnant people, children, and people who have recovered from Covid. Insufficient data on booster shots.

In your estimation.

But you have no skill at this. You are constantly wrong.

 

[Engimal v3]

In your estimation.

But you have no skill at this. You are constantly wrong.

The extent some people will go to in order to push a treatment where there is no concrete benefits is mind boggling

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Unions are a joke in this country.

Will be like Chinese miners sooner than later

Why? Because they agree with the Government when the Government is right?
Because they take advice from medical professionals on a matter of health and safety?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

That can't be right, they Don't all look old, or like AIDES sufferers.

 

[parsons nose]

That can't be right, they Don't all look old, or like AIDES sufferers.

No, they are predominantly God botherers

 

[Marcel Proust]

Seems a bit unAustralian to shoot citizens are the shrine

 

[faible]

Seems a bit unAustralian to shoot citizens are the shrine

Most of them would claim to be Sovereign Citizens I'm sure. So technically it's an invasion by a foreign power and VicPol is just defending our country.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Seems a bit unAustralian to shoot citizens are the shrine

Seems un-Australian for those flogs to gather ( hide ) there .
Everything they've done is Un-Australian.
Willing to sacrifice our public health for their own selfish ends. The opposite of the Anzac spirit.
Get them out of there.

Scum.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Seems un-Australian for those flogs to gather ( hide ) there .
Everything they've done is Un-Australian.
Willing to sacrifice our public health for their own selfish ends. The opposite of the Anzac spirit.
Get them out of there.

Scum.

Shooting people sitting down peacefully protesting.

Not very democratic ?

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

I don't think so at all. The union could have been pushing vaccination all year. Working out the issues. Meeting members. Educating people.

They have though. The unions official position was people to get jabs but don't make it mandatory

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Targeting the Shrine? ... wow, new low right there. Is there another place in Melbourne more symbolic of the sacrifices of the individual for the greater good? Total scumbags.