What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 4

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If you do you have more balls than our club does

Been zero talk of an appeal

Smorgon and Gordon may have been pains at times but at least they stood up for the club and defended it and its players as much as they could, as well as standing up to the AFL in regards to their stupid ideas club. Now we have invisible people running the show who don't even question what the AFL do.
 

This is how bad footy has got. I agree with Mark Robinson! See #6

The Tackle: Mark Robinson’s likes and dislikes from round 12 of the 2022 AFL season​

DISLIKES

1. Melbourne now bleeds​

2. Irrelevant North​


[PLAYERCARD]Cody Weightman[/PLAYERCARD] is a super talent, but he has one big issue. Picture: Getty Images

Cody Weightman is a super talent, but he has one big issue. Picture: Getty Images

3. Cody Red​

In the week Trent Cotchin had his character unfairly questioned by being accused of acting, Bulldog Cody Weightman is the real deal when it comes to playing for free kicks. There’s something undignified about choosing to throw yourself forward in search of a free kick and not absolutely contesting the play on its merits. Weightman stood out on Friday night because the rest of his teammates competed for every ball like it was their last, whereas young Weightman, at times, played for the free kick which meant he not only didn’t contest the ball when he was flopping but he was out of the next play because he was on the ground. It’s a flaw in his game. He’s a talent, no doubt, and, when his focus is the ball, he applies himself to the point of near exhaustion. But that flopping and/or accentuating contact, nah, that’s not good for him or the sport.

4. Jack’s just as bad​


A [PLAYERCARD]Tom Hawkins[/PLAYERCARD] mistake left the door open for the Dogs. Picture: Getty Images

A Tom Hawkins mistake left the door open for the Dogs. Picture: Getty Images

5. Lost momentum​

Friday night. Second quarter. Geelong in control. Either Tom Hawkins was too unselfish with ball in hand or simply lairising. He took a mark about 40m out and, instead of calming the waters and taking a shot at goal, Hawkins played on and kicked it, on his left foot, to teammate Rhys Stanley in the goalsquare. It didn’t work. It was a momentum shaker. Hawkins needed to kick the goal but, instead, the Bulldogs scrambled to save that play and then, after that, scrambled to try to win the game. In what was a terrific match, they ultimately failed. If they succeeded, Hawkins would still be asking himself: Why didn’t I have a shot at goal?

[PLAYERCARD]Ed Richards[/PLAYERCARD] was left worse for wear after a hit from [PLAYERCARD]Rhys Stanley[/PLAYERCARD]. Picture: Getty Images

Ed Richards was left worse for wear after a hit from Rhys Stanley. Picture: Getty Images

6. What constitutes a free kick?​

Dissent continues to pop up its head – Adam Treloar was stiff on Friday night – and free kicks down the field continue to be a lottery. On Friday night, Rhys Stanley hit Ed Richards after Richards had kicked the ball and, instead of a free kick paid in the Dogs’ F50, the umpire ruled that it had to be taken back at the spot he was knocked over. Two things happened. The Dogs were denied a shot at goal, and Tom Liberatore sought justice with Stanley, which led to a scuffle, which led to Bailey Smith headbutting Zac Tuohy. If the free kick was paid downfield, Libba might’ve kept this nose out of it, which meant Smith wouldn’t have delivered the headbutt. All because the umpire didn’t pay down the ground.
 

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This is how bad footy has got. I agree with Mark Robinson! See #6

6. What constitutes a free kick?​

Dissent continues to pop up its head – Adam Treloar was stiff on Friday night – and free kicks down the field continue to be a lottery. On Friday night, Rhys Stanley hit Ed Richards after Richards had kicked the ball and, instead of a free kick paid in the Dogs’ F50, the umpire ruled that it had to be taken back at the spot he was knocked over. Two things happened. The Dogs were denied a shot at goal, and Tom Liberatore sought justice with Stanley, which led to a scuffle, which led to Bailey Smith headbutting Zac Tuohy. If the free kick was paid downfield, Libba might’ve kept this nose out of it, which meant Smith wouldn’t have delivered the headbutt. All because the umpire didn’t pay down the ground.
Even a broken clock....
 
Jack who?

4. Jack’s just as bad​

Jack Ginnivan has one big bag of tricks and one very bad trait. Similar to Weightman, Ginnivan’s want to play for free kicks is damaging him as a player. It would seem the umpires have cottoned on to Ginnivan’s tactics, too. Three times Ginnivan was central to decisions at the MCG on Sunday, which could’ve gone either way, and three times he didn’t receive the free kick. It stood out because, in the sodden conditions when bodies were put on the line, Ginnivan a couple times too many put his body in the hands of the umpire. Always, the umpires will look after the ball.
 
Really? I would love to see the front on angle. Looked from the TV vision at the time that Smith barely touched him and it was an outstanding acting performance from Tuohy.
The headbutt broke skin and drew blood, that's all that really matters.
 
Pretty sure the one they keep bagging Cody for (Guthrie alight hands in the back) is given most times. Same with Ginnivin today, clear over the shoulder which the commentators were killing him for until they saw the replay. Conveniently missed that fake tough guy Hardwick pulling him by the mouth later.
 

6. What constitutes a free kick?

Dissent continues to pop up its head – Adam Treloar was stiff on Friday night – and free kicks down the field continue to be a lottery. On Friday night, Rhys Stanley hit Ed Richards after Richards had kicked the ball and, instead of a free kick paid in the Dogs’ F50, the umpire ruled that it had to be taken back at the spot he was knocked over. Two things happened. The Dogs were denied a shot at goal, and Tom Liberatore sought justice with Stanley, which led to a scuffle, which led to Bailey Smith headbutting Zac Tuohy. If the free kick was paid downfield, Libba might’ve kept this nose out of it, which meant Smith wouldn’t have delivered the headbutt. All because the umpire didn’t pay down the ground.
Nah. Its a moot point because the umpire made the correct call in the Richards incident. Robbo is just wrong. For it to have been paid downfield, contact needed to have occurred after he disposed of the ball - the replay showed it was clearly before he kicked it.
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It's actually an embarrassing take from Robbo who is should know the rules of the game he writes about.

You can be annoyed about the rule, given it likely cost us, but not the decision itself.
 

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Worst part about the Richards incident was the umpire telling Doggies player to stop bumping Stanley because the damage to Richards occurred due to his head hitting the ground. Yes his head hit the ground because Stanley bumped him late.
We had 3 of the well known shit umpires. Stephens, Williamson and Donlon are abysmal
 
Nah. Its a moot point because the umpire made the correct call in the Richards incident. Robbo is just wrong. For it to have been paid downfield, contact needed to have occurred after he disposed of the ball - the replay showed it was clearly before he kicked it.
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It's actually an embarrassing take from Robbo who is should know the rules of the game he writes about.

You can be annoyed about the rule, given it likely cost us, but not the decision itself.

What about Hawkins throwing up the hands and saying something to the umpire for which he then apologised for? Was that the Treloar incident? I can't remember, but it was right in front of me - I was more focussed on Hawkins and the umpire than our boy. But that was dissent and the umpire just blew if off. No free was paid against Hawkins in the first place, but for some reason he grumbled to the ump. No free or 50 paid. Does that mean you can only pay 50 metres for dissent if a player goes off at the ump for a free paid against them? Any other time you can say what you like to the ump?
 
What about Hawkins throwing up the hands and saying something to the umpire for which he then apologised for? Was that the Treloar incident? I can't remember, but it was right in front of me - I was more focussed on Hawkins and the umpire than our boy. But that was dissent and the umpire just blew if off. No free was paid against Hawkins in the first place, but for some reason he grumbled to the ump. No free or 50 paid. Does that mean you can only pay 50 metres for dissent if a player goes off at the ump for a free paid against them? Any other time you can say what you like to the ump?
Mo freekick was paid against Treloat in the first instance
 
What about Hawkins throwing up the hands and saying something to the umpire for which he then apologised for? Was that the Treloar incident? I can't remember, but it was right in front of me - I was more focussed on Hawkins and the umpire than our boy. But that was dissent and the umpire just blew if off. No free was paid against Hawkins in the first place, but for some reason he grumbled to the ump. No free or 50 paid. Does that mean you can only pay 50 metres for dissent if a player goes off at the ump for a free paid against them? Any other time you can say what you like to the ump?
Yeah the dissent rule and the inconsistency in its application is infuriating. Umpires can pay dissent at any time, not just only when a free is paid against someone.
 
No prizes fir guessing which media weasel thinks the Smith ban was far too lenient and should have been at least 4 weeks so he should "take it and run" and if we challenge it should be increased
 

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