Mega Thread Port Forum General AFL Thread Part 22

[EskimoPAFC]

Yet it was against Georgiades (I think) in the first. Even when being tackled around the ankles.

So embarrassing and depressing seeing this sort of bullshit inconsistency. How the hell is any new fan supposed to get their head around this.

 

[Grave Danger]

If just got back from the gold coast she was on the news up there

No one wants her:

 

[Grave Danger]

So embarrassing and depressing seeing this sort of bullshit inconsistency. How the hell is any new fan supposed to get their head around this.

All good according to this umpiring oracle - who will no doubt (or maybe already has) issue a contradictory edict for an identical incident...

 

[Andre]

Is calling Saad a terrorist racial or religious vilification? I suppose it could be considered both.

Not to give a free pass to the idiot, but it's not racist. One of my pet hates is branding comments against a religion as racist. Putting aside there are no separate races of humans (we aren't like cats or dogs with different breeds FFS), religion is a choice, not something you have no control over.

 

[Sleezy]

Religion is a choice, not something you have no control over.

This is a little simplistic.

Putting aside there are no separate races of humans

This seems like an odd thing raise without raising. Racism exists, arguing about the semantics over the practices and impacts seems like a particularly useless and obstructive thing to do.

Islam and Ethnicity are quite closely linked. To the kind of person who thinks that all Muslims are terrorists, it's not much of a stretch to extend that to all Arabs are Muslims, therefore all Arabs are terrorists. The logic is obviously flawed, but it's there.

 

[tribey]

All supporter bases, like all groups of people, have s**t members. I am not going to point fingers.

100%.

I guess the issue that people have is, the wider Crows supporter base lives in an ivory tower, and greet every unsavoury incident involving Port Adelaide as confirmation that we’re all subhuman orcs.

Not sure if you remember socials around the time of the banana-throwing scumbag, but it was basically carte blanche to paint Port as a racist club supported by racists. Sweeping generalisations about “the ferals” abounded.

Yet Walker makes his comment, and all of a sudden it’s ‘just words’, ‘well what did Robbie Young do/say?’, ‘we all make mistakes in the heat of the moment’, ‘gee we’re getting a bit soft aren’t we?’

Now we have this one involving Saad, (following on from a Crows member being banned from AAMI Stadium in 2013 for calling Geelong’s Travis Varcoe a slur), and it’s the same go-round.

But you’re right, all clubs have’em.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

This is starting to get a bit ridiculous. He was umpired fairly against Port. I get the feeling Collingwood supporters expect a free kick whenever he is tackled now. Port players were very careful about tackling him around the body and not letting the tackle slip up.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

This is starting to get a bit ridiculous. He was umpired fairly against Port. I get the feeling Collingwood supporters expect a free kick whenever he is tackled now. Port players were very careful about tackling him around the body and not letting the tackle slip up.

They are just doing everything they can to create a narrative that he is hard done by, with the hope that come finals he does get some of those frees.

It's strategic and I can't blame them for it.

 

[chiwigi]

Not to give a free pass to the idiot, but it's not racist. One of my pet hates is branding comments against a religion as racist. Putting aside there are no separate races of humans (we aren't like cats or dogs with different breeds FFS), religion is a choice, not something you have no control over.

In this instance he is being called a terrorist because he is of middle eastern/north african heritage.

The person saying this does not understand the nuance.

 

[Marmozet]

Jack Ginnivan is the boy who cried wolf

 

[Schulzenfest]

All supporter bases, like all groups of people, have s**t members. I am not going to point fingers.

All clubs have shit individual members. However most clubs when faced with the shitness of an individual member make it their priority to stamp out that behaviour and make it clear that they won't tolerate it. Meanwhile at the Crows, they first tried to cover up Walker's racial slur and then welcomed him back from his AFL imposed suspension with open arms, culminating in a shiny new contract extension signed a week ago. And the woman who vilified Saad was allowed to stay in her seat to watch the rest of the game and (so far at least) has been allowed to keep her membership.

It would be a wild generalisation to claim that Crows supporters are more racist than Port supporters. However, the AFC itself is definitely more racist (or at least more tolerant of racism) than the PAFC. I have no doubt whatsoever that if Taylor Walker was a Port player he would have been sacked, and if the woman who vilified Saad was a Port member she would have had her membership revoked by now. That's the difference.

 

[MrMeaner]

Yeah, it's an insitutional problem at Adelaide, like it is at Collingwood.

 

[philreich]

I mean this is true to an extent, but their handling of the racism on the camp and the sweeping under the carpet of the Tex and ROB incidents surely show they have much more serious problems with this at a higher level than other sides.

At least at a club level the other clubs seem committed to stamping it out.

Or to put it another way, other sides have isolated incidents, the tingles have a pattern.

All we're trying to stamp out at the moment is the coach's tenure.

 

[VineValerian]

Not to give a free pass to the idiot, but it's not racist. One of my pet hates is branding comments against a religion as racist. Putting aside there are no separate races of humans (we aren't like cats or dogs with different breeds FFS), religion is a choice, not something you have no control over.

Probably not racist per se to associate terrorism with religious beliefs/faith (if that's what she was truly thinking), but clearly religious bigotry at the very least.

However, one suspects that, because of his physical appearance, the crowd idiot makes the connection between his looks (ergo his ethnicity ie. Muslim) and him supporting terrorist aspirations, so it probably ends up being racism anyway.

In which case, labelling it as such isn't really incorrect.

 

[Andre]

It would be a wild generalisation to claim that Crows supporters are more racist than Port supporters. However, the AFC itself is definitely more racist (or at least more tolerant of racism) than the PAFC. I have no doubt whatsoever that if Taylor Walker was a Port player he would have been sacked, and if the woman who vilified Saad was a Port member she would have had her membership revoked by now. That's the difference.

Not really IMO. When we had 'our' idiot throw a banana at Eddie Betts most Port supporters felt she was an idiot and she was deserving of all the scorn that went her way. As an apples v. apples case (as Walker being a player, we've seen how idiotic our own fans can be on the club / players / coach can never do wrong) I somehow think Adelaide supporters will be more accommodating of what said then Port supporters were.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I wish my teachers had been this generous. We've gone from a top 2 minor round/prelim final finish to 12th for a B-.

Or is this just for Round 20? I can't tell with Fox Footy. Even then, a B- for losing another game we were in a good position to win. Eight so far this year.

 

[Capital Power]

I wish my teachers had been this generous. We've gone from a top 2 minor round/prelim final finish to 12th for a B-.

Or is this just for Round 20? I can't tell with Fox Footy. Even then, a B- for losing another game we were in a good position to win. * so far this year.

I assume that's just from last weekend, with the Crows on an A+?

B- for us is bollocks. It's at best a D (below expectations) and more reasonably an E. I suppose all the "journalist" does is look at the result and say "they only lost to a top 4 team by a kick". Who ducking cares? It may as well have been 60.

There were periods of the game I'd have given us a B- but our lack of structure and fitness comes back to bite every week. Those things are fixable and we've chosen not to fix them. D.

 

[El Zorro]

I wish my teachers had been this generous. We've gone from a top 2 minor round/prelim final finish to 12th for a B-.

Or is this just for Round 20? I can't tell with Fox Footy. Even then, a B- for losing another game we were in a good position to win. Eight so far this year.

It's just for round 20.

 

[fergulator72]

I wish my teachers had been this generous. We've gone from a top 2 minor round/prelim final finish to 12th for a B-.

Or is this just for Round 20? I can't tell with Fox Footy. Even then, a B- for losing another game we were in a good position to win. Eight so far this year.

Now Kochie can come out and say,Hinkle's got a B-,we don't overreact and sack a coach who just got us a B-

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

 

[chiwigi]

I assume that's just from last weekend, with the Crows on an A+?

B- for us is bollocks. It's at best a D (below expectations) and more reasonably an E. I suppose all the "journalist" does is look at the result and say "they only lost to a top 4 team by a kick". Who ducking cares? It may as well have been 60.

There were periods of the game I'd have given us a B- but our lack of structure and fitness comes back to bite every week. Those things are fixable and we've chosen not to fix them. D.

We exist to challenge, but not beat the 'Big Boys'.

 

[240volt]

How can you get a B- and lose FMD.
Next thing they will be giving out medals for trying.
Oh yeah they already do that.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Coaches Votes: LEADERBOARD

88 Touk Miller

11

Touk Miller

Age

28

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.7

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

12.3

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

4.2

5star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.8

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

12.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.0

5star

(GCFC)
86 Clayton Oliver

13

Clayton Oliver

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

(MELB)
83 Christian Petracca

5

Christian Petracca

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.4

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.5

4star

D

24.4

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.5

3star

T

3.6

4star

CL

3.4

4star

D

19.0

5star

K

7.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.0

4star

(MELB)
79 Lachie Neale

9

Lachie Neale

Age

31

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

(BL)
75 Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

29

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

(CARL)
75 Connor Rozee

1

Connor Rozee

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

CL

1.0

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

1.6

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

0.8

3star

(PORT)
72 Andrew Brayshaw

8

Andrew Brayshaw

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.3

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

2.1

4star

D

18.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

3.1

4star

D

12.6

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

(FRE)
67 Jeremy Cameron

5

Jeremy Cameron

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

(GEEL)

Coaches' votes, R20: It's Miller Time as Touk replaces Dees star atop leaderboard

The AFLCA votes are in for round 20

www.afl.com.au

 

[Doctor Feel]

lol Rozee shits it in if he wasn't so incredibly pathetic in the first 5-6 weeks or so.

 

[manureid]

lol Rozee shits it in if he wasn't so incredibly pathetic in the first 5-6 weeks or so.

Or if the coach realised before we were 10 goals down to Carlolton at half time he might be worth a shot in the midfield.

 

[TazD]

lol Rozee shits it in if he wasn't so incredibly pathetic in the first 5-6 weeks or so.

I'd love to know how he came to the realisation that he could be an all-timer. It's also awesome to see he hasn't been doing his wingardesque playing-up injuries when he squibbed contact.