Team Mgmt. Talk about the makeup of our list - midfield balance, height profile, endurance runners

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Well, a second one.
 
A bit of a strange strategy again. Probably leaves us with the most unbalanced list in the comp.

And the whole hard-nosed/competitive/defensive mindset we were supposedly going with when the rebuild started a couple of years back has supposedly been thrown out the window.

Having said that, I like Hayes and the Davey boys. I think Tsatas’ fit will be an issue, but given he’s more of the same he can’t really make our midfield any worse early on.
 

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I nominate eth-dog to make it and Bruno to angrily critique it.
I nominate anybody but me to make it because I hate the term "general" forward or defender.

You're a tall, a medium or a small.
 
Just a bizarre list management and draft strategy.

4 kpds inside 39 in 3 drafts. A total of 5 taken since 2020. Not to mention deals for BZT, Laverde and Stewart.

Another inside mid whose game is built on breaking away from stoppages, not the hard ball, in a year in which we were guaranteed 2 of the same type of player (at least 1 of whom was late first round quality).

The only good thing I can say about our 2022 drafting is that it's nice to have a group of indigenous kids on the list. Feels like it's been a long time coming.

At least Mahoney knows what he's doing...
The stewart deal is certainly the baffling one. Hasnt really been up to it at any stage. We have laverde and zerk for the immediate term. Seems a shame to lose eyre after 2 years

Dont mind the draft but keen to see what we do with the last two spots on the list now.
 
Think we should go with a classy half back or strong bodied mid with the last pick, preferably mature age. Stocker would make a lot of sense to me.
Dont we have two picks with jayden on the LTI?
Or is that only available at MSD time?

Does luke teal half tick both boxes?
D'Aolia or szybkowski would be my picks on the mid front
 
I nominate anybody but me to make it because I hate the term "general" forward or defender.

You're a tall, a medium or a small.

I got you fam. List breakdown.jpg
 
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You got the ages a bit out of whack.

Shiel and AMT are not 30 until next year.

But if you are basing it on what their age will be in 2023 then you might as well not have the 18 row.

I just grabbed the ages from here and then just chucked in the newbies as 18.

Essendon Playing List for 2023 - Draftguru.

A year swing either way isn't really relevant until you're old anyway.

Edit: having a look at the draftees birthdates, only the Davey's will be 19 by the end of the season with may birthdays. Munkara, Tsatas October birthdays and Hayes December.
 
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Just a bizarre list management and draft strategy.

4 kpds inside 39 in 3 drafts. A total of 5 taken since 2020. Not to mention deals for BZT, Laverde and Stewart.

Another inside mid whose game is built on breaking away from stoppages, not the hard ball, in a year in which we were guaranteed 2 of the same type of player (at least 1 of whom was late first round quality).

The only good thing I can say about our 2022 drafting is that it's nice to have a group of indigenous kids on the list. Feels like it's been a long time coming.

At least Mahoney knows what he's doing...
You could at least attribute the players drafted under Mahoney's watch to him . Mistakes made in the 2020 draft by drafting Brand and Eyre and then having to delist them is not on him. He was at the club less than 3 days before that draft.
I do not agree with the Stewart call. Would have kept Eyre over Stewart but in drafting Hayes at least they have picked one of the better KP players in the draft who has played for Metro and has much better exposed form than Brand.

Not saying Mahoney has done anything either way . It is simply too early to say give her has just completed his second trade / fa / draft period and history says it will take you four or so to get an idea. Not ideal if the have ****ed it up but that is the nature of the beast .

What have Geelong . Richmond. Melbourne. Sydney all have in common ?
Stable board . Long term coaches . Stable club .
 
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You could at least attribute the players drafted under Mahoney's watch to him . Mistakes made in the 2020 draft by drafting Brand and Eyre and then having to delist them is not on him. He was at the club less than 3 days before that draft.
I do not agree with the Stewart call. Would have kept Eyre over Stewart but in drafting Hayes at least they have picked one of the better KP players in the draft who has played for Metro and has much better exposed form than Brand.

Not saying Mahoney has done anything either way . It is simply too early to say give her has just completed his second trade / fa / draft period and history says it will take you four or so to get an idea. Not ideal if the have ****ed it up but that is the nature of the beast .

What have Geelong . Richmond. Melbourne. Sydney all have in common ?
Stable board . Long term coaches . Stable club .

He gets no credit. If he was a serious person he wouldn't have allowed the 2020 stupidity

I thought the plan was to draft competitors. That's what he did so well at Melbourne. Where are they?
 
Anyway, doing my usual thing. One list spot open, hoping that Mitch Szybkowski or Adam D'Aloia gets it:

Defence (13):

Tall (5): Nik Cox (mid/fwd), James Stewart (fwd), Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, Zachary Reid, Lewis Hayes
Medium (3): Jordan Ridley, Jayden Laverde, Jake Kelly
Small (5): Andrew McGrath (mid), Nick Hind, Mason Redman, Alastair Lord, Massimo D'Ambrosio

Midfield (15):

Inside (8): Darcy Parish, Jye Caldwell, Zachary Merrett, Ben Hobbs, Dylan Shiel, Archie Perkins (fwd), Elijah Tsatas, Will Setterfield
Outside (5): Kyle Langford (fwd), Dyson Heppell (def), Sam Durham, Nic Martin (fwd), Alwyn Davey (fwd)
Ruck (3): Sam Draper, Nick Bryan, Andrew Phillips

Forward (14):

Tall (5): Peter Wright (ruc), Harrison Jones, Kaine Baldwin, Cian McBride (def/ruc), Sam Weideman
Medium (3): Jake Stringer, Patrick Voss (mid), Anthony Munkara
Small (6): Will Snelling (mid), Matt Guelfi, Tex Wanganeen, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti, Jye Menzie, Jayden Davey

Ideally we'd have another defender (Sam Gilbey the one I like) but I wouldn't be too fussed if it were an inside mid like D'Aloia or Szybkowski either. I'm hoping that the addition of Hayes means that either McBride or Stewart play forward.

Seniors:

FB: Jordan Ridley - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher - Jake Kelly
HB: Andrew McGrath - Zachary Reid - Mason Redman
MF: Kyle Langford - Jye Caldwell - Sam Durham
HF: Will Snelling - Harrison Jones - Archie Perkins
FF: Jake Stringer - Peter Wright - Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
OB: Sam Draper - Darcy Parish - Zachary Merrett
IC: Matthew Guelfi - Dylan Shiel - Massimo D'Ambrosio - Nic Martin
MS: Dyson Heppell

Reserves:

FB: Jayden Laverde - James Stewart - Lewis Hayes
HB: Nick Hind - Nik Cox - Alastair Lord
MF: Alwyn Davey - Ben Hobbs - Tex Wanganeen
HF: Jayden Davey - Sam Weideman - Jye Menzie
FF: Anthony Munkara - Kaine Baldwin - Patrick Voss
OB: Nick Bryan - Elijah Tsatas - Will Setterfield
IC: Cian McBride - Andrew Phillips - Joe Atley - Stefan Rasinac
 
My critique is we didn’t address our ability to run both ways and improve the aerobic base of our list. I’m still not convinced we have the aerobic running power in the Merrett, Parish, Shiel, Hobbs, Caldwell and now Tsatas group. Martin and Durham help, but I feel as though a Carlton-esque draft will be required from us shortly to target strong aerobic athletes.
Just my opinion.
 
Anyway, doing my usual thing. One list spot open, hoping that Mitch Szybkowski or Adam D'Aloia gets it:

Defence (13):

Tall (5): Nik Cox (mid/fwd), James Stewart (fwd), Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, Zachary Reid, Lewis Hayes
Medium (3): Jordan Ridley, Jayden Laverde, Jake Kelly
Small (5): Andrew McGrath (mid), Nick Hind, Mason Redman, Alastair Lord, Massimo D'Ambrosio

Midfield (15):

Inside (8): Darcy Parish, Jye Caldwell, Zachary Merrett, Ben Hobbs, Dylan Shiel, Archie Perkins (fwd), Elijah Tsatas, Will Setterfield
Outside (5): Kyle Langford (fwd), Dyson Heppell (def), Sam Durham, Nic Martin (fwd), Alwyn Davey (fwd)
Ruck (3): Sam Draper, Nick Bryan, Andrew Phillips

Forward (14):

Tall (5): Peter Wright (ruc), Harrison Jones, Kaine Baldwin, Cian McBride (def/ruc), Sam Weideman
Medium (3): Jake Stringer, Patrick Voss (mid), Anthony Munkara
Small (6): Will Snelling (mid), Matt Guelfi, Tex Wanganeen, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti, Jye Menzie, Jayden Davey

Ideally we'd have another defender (Sam Gilbey the one I like) but I wouldn't be too fussed if it were an inside mid like D'Aloia or Szybkowski either. I'm hoping that the addition of Hayes means that either McBride or Stewart play forward.

Seniors:

FB: Jordan Ridley - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher - Jake Kelly
HB: Andrew McGrath - Zachary Reid - Mason Redman
MF: Kyle Langford - Jye Caldwell - Sam Durham
HF: Will Snelling - Harrison Jones - Archie Perkins
FF: Jake Stringer - Peter Wright - Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
OB: Sam Draper - Darcy Parish - Zachary Merrett
IC: Matthew Guelfi - Dylan Shiel - Massimo D'Ambrosio - Nic Martin
MS: Dyson Heppell

Reserves:

FB: Jayden Laverde - James Stewart - Lewis Hayes
HB: Nick Hind - Nik Cox - Alastair Lord
MF: Alwyn Davey - Ben Hobbs - Tex Wanganeen
HF: Jayden Davey - Sam Weideman - Jye Menzie
FF: Anthony Munkara - Kaine Baldwin - Patrick Voss
OB: Nick Bryan - Elijah Tsatas - Will Setterfield
IC: Cian McBride - Andrew Phillips - Joe Atley - Stefan Rasinac
Laverde will play ahead of Kelly
 
Laverde can also do that, has been given the talls mostly due to being one of the only ones who can
He hasn't at AFL level. He might be able to but he hasn't shown it.
 
Well we did address that last year with Hobbs and Voss.


It's 2 players. 1 is a mid. 1 might be a mid.

Surely there is room for another.

It is quite clear Tsatas is not that good, not the magical so much better than everyone else available. It is very easy to read between the lines.
 
My critique is we didn’t address our ability to run both ways and improve the aerobic base of our list. I’m still not convinced we have the aerobic running power in the Merrett, Parish, Shiel, Hobbs, Caldwell and now Tsatas group. Martin and Durham help, but I feel as though a Carlton-esque draft will be required from us shortly to target strong aerobic athletes.
Just my opinion.
If you compare us to any of the final sides I don't think we match up well aerobically.

Big concern going forward.
 
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