-
Guest - BigFooty Tipping 2025 - Get on! - $500 first prize - Weekly Prizes - Click to Join
PLUS Your club board comp is now up!
List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and Trading Thread - Part 2
- Thread starter WeeBlake
- Start date
- Tagged users None
- Status
Overall I think we did well with the draft and trade period and set ourselves up for next year.
Errors were made before that though. Looking at the list we shouldn't have been tight for spots.
I wonder what would of happened had Brown played on.
Errors were made before that though. Looking at the list we shouldn't have been tight for spots.
I wonder what would of happened had Brown played on.
Don't the train-on's get announced usually before Christmas?
If train-on guys are choosing between us and another club, surely it'd make sense to provide some kind of clarity that there's actually a list spot available with us? Unless we're only looking at Turner for SSP
Christmas is still 25 days away. There's another List Lodgement tomorrow. I suspect we need to wait until after that, before we can officially move players onto the Inactive or LTI lists.
That's fair enough
FWIW by 'soon', I didn't mean immediately, just sometime in the next month or so when train on's begin to be announced
Pity we couldn't have taken Verrall or Magor in the rookie draft.
2023
My retirements: Seed, Sloane
Delistings: Murphy, McPherson, Borlase, Newchurch, Hately
1 year extensions: Walker, Mcasey (in a shock move) put on rookie list
Trade: Crouch finds a suitor and is traded for a late second round
Gives us 5 main list spots back
My retirements: Seed, Sloane
Delistings: Murphy, McPherson, Borlase, Newchurch, Hately
1 year extensions: Walker, Mcasey (in a shock move) put on rookie list
Trade: Crouch finds a suitor and is traded for a late second round
Gives us 5 main list spots back
I'd like to give you more details, but the words "Inactive List" and "Pre-Season Supplementary Period" don't appear in any AFL documents that I've discovered. They're not in the Collective Bargaining Agreement, and not in the AFL Rules document - and certainly not in the Laws of Australian Football, or Tribunal Guidelines documents either. There is simply no publicly available information about how these things work, or when players can be signed or placed on the lists.
The LTI list is mentioned. It specifies a latest possible date for putting players on the list, but not a first possible date. Go figure!
The latest versions of the various AFL Policy documents can be found here:
AFL Policies & Terms
Good luck finding anything referencing the Inactive List, PSSP, or even the MSD.
AFL Policies & Terms
Good luck finding anything referencing the Inactive List, PSSP, or even the MSD.
WaynesWorld19
Moderator
- Moderator
- #2,109
WaynesWorld19
Moderator
- Moderator
- #2,110
Crouch? No chance. No-one wants him.
Rags_118
Team Captain
Surely there is some hope that Seedsman returns to the field in 2023, otherwise why retain him on the list? No one has formally said he’s finished.
Is it a situation like Sam Shaw where he was retained as a rookie for a year to be able to access AFL services for his concussion issues?
Or is it a situation like Gibbs where he was rookied post retirement to reduce the amount of his final year salary payout counted under the salary cap?
Or perhaps both.
Is it a situation like Sam Shaw where he was retained as a rookie for a year to be able to access AFL services for his concussion issues?
Or is it a situation like Gibbs where he was rookied post retirement to reduce the amount of his final year salary payout counted under the salary cap?
Or perhaps both.
Golumless
A bigger deal out west.
Ended up being a pretty solid draft/trade period, all things considered, which considering the absolute mess we got ourselves into list management wise coming into the trade period...
Adelaide got its bonafide superstar in Rankine, read the tea leaves well with a Michalaney bid to retain a 2nd round pick and Dowling/Bond look like lads that'll at least fit in with probably the only aspect you could confidently say Adelaide is trying to build - being a really tough and gritty team. Probably the only complaint is I'd have liked a ruck prospect coming aboard, but unfortunately with ignoring it again, it looking more and more likely we see Thilthorpe as our future number 1 ruck.
Adelaide got its bonafide superstar in Rankine, read the tea leaves well with a Michalaney bid to retain a 2nd round pick and Dowling/Bond look like lads that'll at least fit in with probably the only aspect you could confidently say Adelaide is trying to build - being a really tough and gritty team. Probably the only complaint is I'd have liked a ruck prospect coming aboard, but unfortunately with ignoring it again, it looking more and more likely we see Thilthorpe as our future number 1 ruck.
He looks a lot lot trimmer he might surprise you
- Jul 6, 2017
- 32,325
- 46,870
- AFL Club
- Adelaide
- Oct 13, 2017
- 20,783
- 34,980
- AFL Club
- Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Liverpool, Glenelg, tigers
Borlase and newchurch will not be delisted at the end of 2023.. it’s pure fantasy spun by the same people that told us all these two would be delisted this year and were proven to be talking shit.
Under the current rules these two lads can be on the list as cat B’s for four years and will both be given that 4th year UNLESS the club has another cat b player or two available to draft end of next year that they rate higher than newchurch or Borlase and want to bring in.
“Trade: crouch finds a suitor and is traded for a late second round”
fcck me, where do you come up with this drivel?.. we‘ve tried for two off seasons now and failed… we can’t even give Matt crouch away.. and you reacon we’ll all of a sudden find a suitor next year and get a second for him?.. he’ll be a fxxkn delist.. why would anyone give us a second for him? especialy given its meant to be a strong draft..
the game no longer wants slow, accumulating crabs with zero hurt factor.
not everything is a rumour clam or inside knowledge - sometimes after having watched a lot of these guys play we can have an opinion on whether they can make it or should be cut
i was gung ho on newchurch and borlase in 2021 but both went backwards this year. but again its just an opinion i see others questioning berry keays and schoenberg still - that i cannot get my head around.
- Aug 7, 2015
- 10,877
- 17,790
- AFL Club
- Adelaide
Actually... this might not be - according to THIS AFL article, it states:
Under AFL rules players had not been allowed to spend more than three straight years on the rookie list ... any player in their third season as a Category A or B rookie will be eligible to spend another season as a rookie in 2022 as a 'replacement' year. (for covid interruption)
This doesn't apply to Borlase and newchurch (actually any rookie drafted since 2020) - 2022 is their second year as rookies so 2023 is their 3rd and final year they can stay on the rookie list.
... unless the ∀FL decides to make a rule change again.
Last edited:
Mr MysteryGuest
Norm Smith Medallist
- Apr 4, 2015
- 9,157
- 9,581
- AFL Club
- Adelaide
What’s the ideal number of mids on a List?
brown will be getting close to, if not all, his full salary. No way he foregoes half his last year of contract. That's as dumb a view as possible.
- Aug 30, 2021
- 19,601
- 38,841
- AFL Club
- Adelaide
What’s the ideal number of rucks on a list?
- Oct 13, 2017
- 20,783
- 34,980
- AFL Club
- Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Liverpool, Glenelg, tigers
In the way of young potential mids and forwards/rotating mids we now have;
berry
shoey
soligo
pedlar
taylor
rankine
rachele
hately
Nankervis
cook
and now
bond and Dowling..
if atleast 6 or so of these lads can’t push an absolute hack like Ben Keays out of the side by the end of next season.. then we need to remove haggis, Reid and a few others and blow up the entire list and start again.
If our midfield next season has the names Sloane, crouch and Keays in it for most or all of the year.. we’re completely fxxked.. heading for Carlton levels of embarrassing.
Berry finished the year off very strongly.. shoey had a poor season but let’s hope it’s an outlier and he can swing that around.. but Keays?
Keays is just a garbage footballer… yes you’re one of an ever shrinking few in here that can’t get their head around this basic fact.
- Sep 3, 2018
- 5,339
- 7,044
- AFL Club
- Adelaide
You need around 15 midfielders on your list between AFL and developing in SANFL. Rachelle and Rankine are too valuable up forward to have as full time mids
Not super surprising we grabbed another two
Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com
- Aug 30, 2021
- 19,601
- 38,841
- AFL Club
- Adelaide
15? Where did you pluck that number from?
We didn’t waste picks 4 and 5 on small forwards, if we did Hamish and Reid should be sacked.
So across 2 teams, how many rucks?
I am just thinking that next year Crouch will be a restricted free agent. Some clubs might be interested in an experienced inside midfielder to help develop their young onballers and they would not have to part with any draft picks with the Crows receiving a compensation pick. With the right club Crouch could get a 4 year deal on about $500k - $600k which would put him in the realm of a 2nd or 3rd round compensation pick. The issue with the Crows is they already have Laird, Keays, Berry, Schoenberg, Sloane and Pedlar capable of playing a similar role and they can't all play in the same team.
The other restricted free agent for next year, from a Crows perspective, is Tom Doedee. Whilst I am obviously hoping Doedee does stay at the Crows there is the potential Geelong could try to lure Doedee back home with a deal that would potentially trigger a first round compensation pick for him. I have no inside information and this scenario may never eventuate, but I am just stating that Doedee is a Restricted Free Agent next year, he comes from Geelong and Geelong Football Club has a well documented history of attracting local products like Doedee back to the Cattery.
Given the projected strength of next years draft I am seriously hoping the Crows can have 5-6 picks inside the top 30 with a couple of those picks inside the top 10. With the Crows natural first round selection, a compensation pick for Doedee if he explores free agency, trading the 2024 first rounder for the 2023 first round, North Melbourne's 2023 second round pick, Gold Coast's 2023 second round pick and potentially picking up another second round pick either as compensation for Crouch, trading other players or draft picks. Given the amount of players coming out of contract next year the 2023 trade and draft period could be very interesting for the Crows.
- Status
Similar threads
- Poll
