Review Bad and Ugly vs GC

[Mr_Moogle]

What does it do?

I think it changes certain colours around. I think the problem ones are reds and greens.

 

[TARANTULA]

It sucks that when your team is 6 goals up in the 2nd and you already know that an opposition comeback is just around the corner. And when it comes your team just falls in a heap.

 

[VictorianCrow85]

Nicks is an idiot sometimes. Some of his decision making like Murray in the ruck?
Keays and Sloane in the middle when we were getting slaughtered..
Keeping Butts on King.

Yes he was good last week and I praised him for this but tonight he was worst on. It started with Doedee going to Casboult who is far too big and strong for him, first he kicks the first goal then minutes later outmuscles Doedee who gets injured in the contest. From there the disappointing stuff just continued.

 

[Burtonsgottago]

Would you rather lose to Brisbane and beat Gold coast??

I'm just so confused that we absolutely bring it and crack in against the top teams and rise to the occasion and yet these mediocre teams bring a little bit of pressure and we just lay down and take it.... Why does this happen? Do we prepare differently when we play high rank teams?

Played Brisbane at home

 

[kirky]

Perhaps the AFL want to ensure Dew stays on as coach at Gold Coast.

Lets think if GC got Hardwick as coach the AFL might have to deal with a powerful GC whereas with Dew they will just be a meh side - win a few, lose a few.

 

[Crow_Magnon]

4th youngest team in the comp - it's not completely unexpected.

Needs to change, but for now, it's a good indicator of where we are at.

Both Teams avg 24 yrs 11 mths tonight, and we had 10 games more average 88 to 78. Not really an excuse tonight..

 

[Geoffa32]

Burn....

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[GameofSloanes]

I feel like I’m on crazy pills with how everyone just seems to accept Hinge being a walk up start in our best 22? Is it just that people forget he’s there? What does he actually offer over someone like Worrell?

To be fair he was asked to be a tall defender today after doedee went down. He isn't one.

 

[Redleg Crow]

They're still a middle of the table side.

Should have been sent to Tassie. We don’t need 19 teams

 

[kirky]

Would you rather lose to Brisbane and beat Gold coast??

I'm just so confused that we absolutely bring it and crack in against the top teams and rise to the occasion and yet these mediocre teams bring a little bit of pressure and we just lay down and take it.... Why does this happen? Do we prepare differently when we play high rank teams?

If that is the case, then that is on the coaching staff and pregame preparation.

 

[Southerntakeover]

4th youngest team in the comp - it's not completely unexpected.

Needs to change, but for now, it's a good indicator of where we are at.

Gold Coast aren't exactly hardened veterans

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

You could see at Half Time ....the Crows were gassing / ultra sweaty ....and GC looked the fresher

Crows had to go into a cool room at breaks .....GC stayed on the ground

Same as against GWS ....Laird could only muster the 1st half ....then petered out in the heat

Get it into the FWD 50 & we score .....but our DEF continues to be the Achilles Heel

Good
Keays .....the boy stands up under pressure ....has a never give up attitude, replicated by Murphy
Michalanney ....just stands up week after week ....never gets fazed & will be a great Finals player
Milera ....back to his dancing best

Bad
Butts ....tries hard, annoys, but gives easy goals away .....lost count, 3 min goals he cost .....not up to it !
Sloane ...please retire gracefully ....you try hard, but are largely ineffectual
Ned McHenry ....will always be on the fringe of the 22
Soligo ....was never a contributor tonight, just made up the numbers
Laird .....has a mental problem with heat

Ugly
Some strange coaching moves & matchups by Nicksy ....why did he take Keays off Rowell in the 3rd Qtr
The DEF is a mess ....we need KPD's !

Great post. When McHenry is on the fringe of the first 27 then I will know our list has depth.

 

[Crow_68]

4th youngest team in the comp - it's not completely unexpected.

Needs to change, but for now, it's a good indicator of where we are at.

Not sure we can keep using that excuse.

The younger players are the ones performing when the going gets a little tough. The veterans are going missing.

 

[SLOWNE]

Ugly:

Copping Kelli Underwood every second week
Playing in bum**** nowhere every second week
Worrell playing against plumbers in the SANFL
Absolutely diabolical umpiring in the 2nd half
Murray in the ruck whilst a healthy ROB and TT do what?
Sholl as soft as table butter

Good: Pedlar, Fog, Jones, Milera, Keays, Dawson, Michalanney

 

[Eddie Murphy]

That stat is exactly why although on paper losing to pies and gold coast are somewhat acceptable they’re in reality so poor

 

[Burtonsgottago]

And neither had white shorts!

You’re not giving up on this are you?

 

[Moonwatcher]

Should have been sent to Tassie. We don’t need 19 teams

AFL might be trialing them in Darwin.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Also think our whole strategy in regards to the humidity, was something straight out of the collective minds mindset.

Why did we go on to the ground late in the 4th quarter? The fucming heaters at training? The sweat bands. The bigger you make something, the bigger a psychological barrier to overcome it would be. Should have treated the weather the same as any other week.

You'd think Burgess had a big say in our heat management ......seemed to be very involved in positional changes discussion with Nicksy

 

[Banshee23]

Going to be a lot of negatives aimed at the fellas after that, and I get it. But it's a young squad finding their feet in conditions they've not really played in before against opponents who not only have, but did last week and had the entire week up there preparing/acclimatising. Those conditions are ****ed - both in terms of how it affects the person and how it affects the ball. Huge advantage. Losing Doedee was structurally really damaging given how Gold Coast set up their forward line. I get how that happened, I'm not too upset about it, and I've still got supreme faith in these fellas.

Butts is a bit of a concern and has been for awhile, Hinge is very vanilla and doesn't really offer anything special in any regard - he feels very replaceable. ROB was comprehensively beaten at the tap and ineffectual around the ground. Not Sloane's best, either.

Gets a lot of stick around here and I totally get why, but I reckon Keays was phenomenal tonight. I don't care about the 36% disposal efficiency. It's a s**t metric anyway. Three of those were near-goals stopped on the goalline, two of which get recorded as clangers. Cracked in all night, tackled hard, won the ball, kept his man honest and wore him like a glove. And honestly, got worn like a glove by Rowell when we were in possession too. But his gut running, in those conditions, was just unbelivable. Nobody else on the ground worked nearly as hard. Every single time we forced a turnover he embarked on a 100 metre sprint and got 15 metres goal side of his man into damaging offensive space. Every time. All night - didn't relent until the end. We just weren't good enough to take advantage of it most of the time. Impressive.

I get the focus on his disposal - but especially in conditions like that, it's not nearly as relevant (and effective disposal is more challenging). Just get it forward, and run hard to get the balls others hoof forward. Nobody was better at that tonight.

Edit: forgot to criticise Sholl. He deserves the criticism. Time to move on. Tex needs to do more when he's not having shots too - same criticism Fog got for most of his early career. Think we could do with a couple of battlers like Sholl and Hinge rotating out for blokes like Worrell and Nankervis.

Also, playing away from home is hard. Playing away from home at these novelty grounds against perpetual pseudo-home teams is harder. Darwin, Launceston, Ballarat in quick succession. Not good. Fixture inequity for sure in not being a high-drawing Melbiurne side.

This forum needs more Skippos content

 

[Interloperer]

I have a mate with that problem. You have my sympathy. It's a shame they don't have a colourblind mode built into TVs. Some videogames have that.

What does it do?

Colourblind modes in video games are generally authored by the developers (eg. "draw this character in a red shirt normally or draw this character in a bright pink shirt if colourblind mode is on") and the changes are made before the image is drawn to the screen.

(When done properly anyway. There's been a few famous examples where the colourblind mode has inadvertently simulated being colourblind instead of the reverse.)

It's not something that would translate (easily) to live TV.

 

[twiggy4PM]

Win next week and we are 7-6 at the Bye. We can win 5 or 6 afterwards and we are knocking on the door of the eight. I would have taken that if offered in pre-season.

We have a couple of problems the main one is our midfield is too inconsistent and relies too much on older smaller players. We need a couple of big bodied midfielders as when a team that has them gets a run on we crumple.

We are short another tall defender. Too many mid-sized half back flankers that look good when they can run with the ball but can't handle a tall forward when 1 on 1. If Doedee leaves we are in big trouble.

 

[Geoffa32]

That 5 minute patch midway through the 2nd after Jnr's awesome goal was the turning point. We had our foot on the throat, and were a couple of goals away from breaking them. But a couple of woeful clangers from Tex, they get the ball forward, score a goal, break the momentum and the rest is history.

Tex has been good this year, but he's also gone to water at really crucial stages in the game, in far too many games.

I felt the momentum had changed before that goal and hoped such an effort would lift us.

It didn't.


Second half of third quarter I felt we were on top. But couldn't score. Thilthorpe the only forward presenting.


Then we got ahead and let them get three quick goals. Two from centre break frees. But our defensive work then was bad.



Do wonder if we could have fought back without that 50m penalty. It was a goal against play. Game over after that.

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[The Perfect Stranger]

Rachele/ Rankine/ Pedlar/ Soligo/ Michalanney ...?

Michalanney - a midfielder.

I stand by my comment posted in the midfield thread.

 

[arsene wenger1]

Unfortunately it’s a clear case of a team who can’t play with the same intensity away from home. Won every hard ball stat at home and lost every one away from home. Simple as that. We have one quarter in us away from home

 

[StonesThrow]

Haven't seen much of GC this year but after half time they looked the best I've seen them since they joined the AFL. Really solid defence, strong contested midfield game and some very handy tall forwards. Completely out played is in the second half.

Thought we were on tonight but that lapse in the 3rd saw us get annihilated. We managed to get back into it but I think we had a few too many passengers where as they were playing well collectively.

Good:

First half. Excellent ball movement. Controlled GC with ease and should have had a few more goals.

Hard to pick good players over 4 qtrs but I really liked Rachele again. Very good use by foot.

Dawson probably our most consistent mid and had some really good moments. Couple of stuff ups though.

Jones turning until mister consistent. Liked his game.

Keays had a good Keays type game. I really wish he would get instructed to give the ball off whenever he gets the chance. Handball back 20m to Rachele on the 50 of he has to.

Milera decent.

Fog stood up when he got his chances.

Michalaney was okay against his opponent and had some nice defensive aerial contests. Feel like he got lost a bit around

Bad:

Midfield losing control for large portions of the game. Obviously our weak point.

Defence was all at sea in a rare display this year. Weren't too bad on the air but got sucked into contests and struggled when the ball hit the ground. Structure was really poor unlike last week. Way too many easy goals from a usually stingey defence. Murray lacked influence.

Soligo worst on ground. I can't actually think of one positive thing he did tonight. Are people now seeing what I've been talking about? He's been struggling in contested ball all year. Gets caught a lot and easily taken out of a contest. Cost us a few goals tonight from some of his efforts. Needs to hit the gym big time.

Sloane terrible. Didn't stand up in the last this time and gave away about 3 free kicks leading to i50s.

Laird ineffective after half time.

Rankine very easily beaten. Poor game.

McHenry and Murphy have started to revert back to themselves. They've earnt some brownie points I guess.

Sholl wasn't terrible I guess, but he's reverted back to having little influence and being exposed for lack of strength.

Walker good and bad. I reckon he'll struggle to go around again next year. Hopefully TT can build over the last half of the year and start to fill the void.

Hinge struggled but it's a tough ask after Doedee goes down. I reckon Worrell would have handled Luko pretty well so yeah..

Feel like we got badly beaten in ground balls in both forward and defensive 50? Don't have the stats though.