Opinion Sack Hinkley 10 - UnTENable

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PowerLil said:
Richo said to Cheesey Mac after the AGM they're worried about players leaving if Hinkley is moved on. I'm pretty sure he's said it to someone else prior to this year. Was it you or maybe RussellEbertHandball ?
The unrest needs to come from the players.
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Hold on a minute - so you're telling me not only does sacking Hinkley get rid of Hinkley, it also gets rid of Wines and Dixon?

I don't think I've ever had so much blood concentrated in one part of my body before.
 
El_Scorcho said:
The players don't get up for big games. The idea that they would run through a single brick wall for Kenny is laughable. They've had every chance to show up in a big game, they don't.
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Five minutes into pre-season with a fresh coach they'll be Kenny who? it's the biggest load of rubbish ever how attached they are to this bloke.
 
One can only imagine Ken's message to the players, ahead of Friday night's mission impossible, "Boys, this is gonna be a really hard game. Geelong is a scary place to play footy, but if we stick together and work really hard for each other, we should be able to keep the margin under 7 goals." Inspiring stuff from the master coach!!!!!
 

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JimmyBC said:
Hinkley won't walk he's not the type I think it's pretty clear by now, he doesn't care for the greater good.
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There have been many times Hinkley could've walked and plenty of times he could've been fired or the contract not renewed.

As you've said, he doesn't care and now the players have unconsciously taken on that ambivalence and malaise in a very strong way. We will see if they can resurrect their season.
 
philreich said:
One can only imagine Ken's message to the players, ahead of Friday night's mission impossible, "Boys, this is gonna be a really hard game. Geelong is a scary place to play footy, but if we stick together and work really hard for each other, we should be able to keep the margin under 7 goals." Inspiring stuff from the master coach!!!!!
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"Men, there's a crippled captain in the hospital, who really wants you to win this game. I know because I crippled him myself to inspire you."

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this thread is from 2018. word for word, swap a few players names, hartlett for butters etc

Ken is an imposter, a media darling, at a club the rest of the football world doesn't consider a threat, under the radar. so he's escaped scrutiny

he's a Victorian in a small town. Clown Koch is doing the same, getting HIS name in gold on honour boards he revered as a kid

these guys are like if you moved from new York to run an NDIS provider in Murray Bridge. They think they are better than everyone else

Ken would never admit failure, especially now. what, live the rest of his life knowing his FOUR attempts were him all along. isn't going to happen from a guy we know lacks integrity and throws others under busses

Wasn't going to happen, isn't going to happen

The AFL is happy, Victorian media don't really care we're as relevant as Fremantle, an invited club in their competition who will occasionally do well in a regular season before flopping out of the finals. The coaches are all sitting there knowing they are on borrowed time and a new coach will likely send them out the door and then what do they do and where do they go? commute to Melbourne, Western Sydney maybe? No one wants their good times to end

From top to bottom the entire club is a vested interest.

Ken won't admit he was the reason. Neither will Koch that he got it wrong with Ken....FOUR times

As Tredders said after the game on Thursday night, we're stuck with him and he isn't going anywhere. best we can do is bare it until it eventually ends or hope for a circumstance where Ken can be given an excuse to have no choice but to temporarily step aside is emotionally detach from losses. which I think most here have done

A loss to the Crows doesn't even hurt, we're wishing them to win by more....we're wishing geelong to annihilate us"

What a sorry state of affairs

I look forward to the day when the club acknowledges what happened and physically removes the names Koch and Hinckley from boards around the club. there has been no honor with either of the selfish imposters, just self interest. All at the expense of the club

the players have a lot to answer for in this too. That's why I'm not sorry Gray and Boak, Dixon and Wines will have never won a flag between them

I hope Rozee reflects on why the club let him take the field on Thursday night..Something I have no doubt Aliir will be having his lawyers ask the club in about 10 years time.

While it may feel like it has been forever, it won't last forever
 
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PowerLil said:
Richo said to Cheesey Mac after the AGM they're worried about players leaving if Hinkley is moved on. ...
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I've posted before that if Richo actually believes that then he is completely clueless.

What player on our list is going to throw away their AFL career and go and play in country Victoria just so they can still be coached by their Daddy?
 
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KenGaveUsWhatHeDeserved said:
this thread is from 2018. word for word, swap a few players names, hartlett for butters etc

Ken is an imposter, a media darling, at a club the rest of the football world doesn't consider a threat, under the radar. so he's escaped scrutiny

he's a Victorian in a small town. Clown Koch is doing the same, getting HIS name in gold on honour boards he revered as a kid

these guys are like if you moved from new York to run an NDIS provider in Murray Bridge. They think they are better than everyone else

Ken would never admit failure, especially now. what, live the rest of his life knowing his FOUR attempts were him all along. isn't going to happen from a guy we know lacks integrity and throws others under busses

Wasn't going to happen, isn't going to happen

The AFL is happy, Victorian media don't really care we're as relevant as Fremantle, an invited club in their competition who will occasionally do well in a regular season before flopping out of the finals. The coaches are all sitting there knowing they are on borrowed time and a new coach will likely send them out the door and then what do they do and where do they go? commute to Melbourne, Western Sydney maybe? No one wants their good times to end

From top to bottom the entire club is a vested interest.

Ken won't admit he was the reason. Neither will Koch that he got it wrong with Ken....FOUR times

As Tredders said after the game on Thursday night, we're stuck with him and he isn't going anywhere. best we can do is bare it until it eventually ends or hope for a circumstance where Ken can be given an excuse to have no choice but to temporarily step aside is emotionally detach from losses. which I think most here have done

A loss to the Crows doesn't even hurt, we're wishing them to win by more....we're wishing geelong to annihilate us"

What a sorry state of affairs

I look forward to the day when the club acknowledges what happened and physically removes the names Koch and Hinckley from boards around the club. there has been no honor with either of the selfish imposters, just self interest. All at the expense of the club

the players have a lot to answer for in this too. That's why I'm not sorry Gray and Boak, Dixon and Wines will have never won a flag between them

I hope Rozee reflects on why the club let him take the field on Thursday night..Something I have no doubt Aliir will be having his lawyers ask the club in about 10 years time.

While it may feel like it has been forever, it won't last forever
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This is an excellent argument
 
Steve Dore said:
I've posted before that if Richo actually believes that then he is completely clueless.

What player on our list is going to throw away their AFL career and go and play in country Victoria just so they can still be coached by their Daddy?
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I was just pondering about how cursed we are to have so many clueless people at our club at one time. Honestly, with our luck right now, if it was raining female movie stars, we'd catch Shrek's missus.
 
KenGaveUsWhatHeDeserved said:
As Tredders said after the game on Thursday night, we're stuck with him and he isn't going anywhere. best we can do is bare it until it eventually ends or hope for a circumstance where Ken can be given an excuse to have no choice but to temporarily step aside is emotionally detach from losses. which I think most here have done
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What’s stopping us from sacking him today?
 
El_Scorcho said:
The players don't get up for big games. The idea that they would run through a single brick wall for Kenny is laughable. They've had every chance to show up in a big game, they don't.
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They would have a bloody good look at the brick wall and then try to feel its experiences as an inanimate object.
 
philreich said:
One can only imagine Ken's message to the players, ahead of Friday night's mission impossible, "Boys, this is gonna be a really hard game. Geelong is a scary place to play footy, but if we stick together and work really hard for each other, we should be able to keep the margin under 7 goals." Inspiring stuff from the master coach!!!!!
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And whatever you do, don't embarrass me again.
 

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JimmyBC said:
If you went with a first time coach he's gonna be on less than Teflon Ken initially which mitigates any pay out.

The money angle has always been bullshit, we are not on our knees 2010 style any more.
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You know what would also have mitigated any pay out? Letting his contract expire on Oct 31 last year then not renewing it.
 
GoPorts said:
Imagine being able to make butters doubt himself against crouch and laird.
His real talent would be in writing pamphlets armies can airdrop behind enemy lines to demoralise the populace of invaded nations
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"We're going to terrorise you I reckon"

Actual goosebumps
 
Gra Gra's article is pretty balanced TBH. There's a bit of fellating for the Camries but overall it's not bad:

Last three Showdown results prove that Port Adelaide are mentally fragile and the Crows have capitalised | Graham Cornes​

The last three Showdowns show the Crows have the edge when it comes to SA’s footy teams. As Graham Cornes writes, the basis of it comes from being mentally superior.
[PLAYERCARD]Matthew Nicks[/PLAYERCARD] stoked with 'well-rounded' Crows

Sporting success is built on a solid foundation comprised of many elements.
There are purpose-built foundations for different sports. For instance, team sports differ from individual sports, but for the purpose of today’s column, let’s study Australian rules football. More specifically, let’s study our two South Australian-based AFL teams – the Adelaide Crows and Port Adelaide.
To assemble the building blocks of your footy team’s foundation you need the essentials.
Natural talent, fitness, strength, speed, courage and skill, are all essential requirements of a successful football team.
It’s fair to say both teams have all those requirements, albeit to different degrees.
But there are a couple more – two areas in which the Crows triumphed in Thursday night’s Showdown and the Power failed miserably.
[PLAYERCARD]Matt Crouch[/PLAYERCARD] and Mark Keane hunt down Jason Horne-Francis during the Showdown on Thursday night. Picture: James Elsby/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Matt Crouch and Mark Keane hunt down Jason Horne-Francis during the Showdown on Thursday night. Picture: James Elsby/AFL Photos via Getty Images
The failure in these two areas saw Port’s foundation crumble then eventually collapse.
The mental aspect of the game is best referred to the as the psychology of sport and it is often said that the mental aspect of the game is more important than all of those other factors put together.
That can be debated but one thing is obvious: the Crows have dominated Port psychologically in the past two seasons.
Now, it might have been the Rory Sloane factor that united the Crows players and brought a laser-like focus to their approach and commitment to the contest on Thursday night, but it was clear that they were on a mission to win the game.
The Port players on the other hand, seemed scared to lose it. The Crows were mentally tougher than Port.
Then there are the tactics of the game.
In a free-flowing game with no off-side rule, 18 players on the ground and no guaranteed possession, tactics in Australian rules football can’t be set in stone.
“Fluid” is perhaps the adjective best used to describe tactics in our game. Coaches and players have to be able to adjust quickly.
In the simplest of terms, tactics determine how players position themselves and move the ball when their team has possession or when the opposition has it.
[PLAYERCARD]Brodie Smith[/PLAYERCARD] brings the heat on [PLAYERCARD]Travis Boak[/PLAYERCARD]. Picture: Sarah Reed/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Brodie Smith brings the heat on Travis Boak. Picture: Sarah Reed/AFL Photos via Getty Images
In that area, the Crows again triumphed on Thursday night. Quite simply, the Crows players executed a well-planned tactic. The Port players continually tried to react to it.
It always starts with the contest. Both teams start with the intention of smothering their opponent and depriving them of the time and space to win the ball or use it effectively.
The statisticians measure the pressure that each team brings to the contest. On Thursday night you didn’t need a pressure gauge to see which team was superior in that regard.
Port’s pressure was satisfactory by league standards but the Crows pressure was truly elite.
The statistics told us that Port were winning the ball and pumping it forward into the forward line.
Port dominated the inside-50 count, but there was no time and space for the Port forwards to move because the Crows had crowded most of their players into Port’s forward half.
As a result, Port’s scoring shots were always under pressure. When the scoreboard reads 5.18, questions have to be asked.
Three goals missed from relatively easy set shots indicates players who are not able to handle the mental pressure that forwards have to absorb in big games.
If you can’t kick easy goals in minor round games you won’t kick them come finals time.
Port’s three tall forwards didn’t function either. Charlie Dixon always presents a threat but he never gets an easy kick. He’s the most important tall forward but he needs much better delivery.
Luke Nankervis and [PLAYERCARD]Dan Houston[/PLAYERCARD] face off. Picture: Mark Brake/Getty Images

Luke Nankervis and Dan Houston face off. Picture: Mark Brake/Getty Images
Todd Marshall needs to do more and Mitch Georgiades is still finding his feet after missing a year with that ACL injury.
The Crows tall defenders in Keane, Michalanney and the increasingly impressive Josh Worrell completely blanketed them.
Additionally, Adelaide’s team defence succeeded in reducing Port’s forwards to a concerning level of rushed, ineffective uncertainty.
The Crows tactics on the rebound when they eventually did win the ball were simple. Move the ball quickly into a deserted forward line.
Within five minutes, and completely against the flow of play, Darcy Fogarty had twice out-marked Lachie Jones and kicked the first two goals of the match.
From the outset it had seemed an unlikely match-up, explained only by the absence of Port’s most important defender, Aliir Aliir.
Changes were made but it was too late. Fogarty, a player who thrives on the confidence of early possessions had his best game of the year.
The Crows, who until this game had taken the league’s second-lowest number of marks inside their forward-50, finished with 11 marks from just 47 inside 50s.
From just three inside-50s the Crows kicked the first three goals of the match.
The most astounding statistic was that the Crows kicked the first seven goals from only 10 inside-50 entries.
It remains a mystery that only the Port coaching staff can answer why Adelaide’s forwards had so much room in which to move with no defender between the last Crows forward and the goals.

JAKE SOLIGO'S LAST FIVE GAMES​

DISPOSALS: 27.2
MARKS: 2.4
TACKLES: 6
INSIDE 50S: 4.6
CLEARANCES: 6
SUPERCOACH: 112
More specifically how can a player like Taylor Walker, who these days is not renowned for his pace and athleticism, run and bounce unchallenged and then goal from outside 50 at a crucial stage of the match.
To rub salt into a festering wound, Walker did chase down and tackle Zak Butters at a crucial stage of the third quarter – an event so unlikely that it obviously told the story of Port’s night.
The ease with which Adelaide scored and the accuracy condemned Port to further misery.
In hindsight, the result was not all that surprising. At the start of the week Port looked as if they would be without three of their most important players.
Aliir Aliir, who was missing under the concussion protocol was the defender they could least afford to lose.
Sam Powell-Pepper, who now misses the rest of the season with an ACL knee injury is their most dangerous forward and Connor Rozee, who shouldn’t have played, is their best midfielder as well as their captain.
The bookies said they were the favourites but old-fashioned football nous said otherwise.
They say Showdowns are different. It doesn’t matter where the two teams are on the ladder, the odds are always 50/50.
If anything, however, the results of the past three Showdowns have illustrated how fragile Port can be when the pressure is applied.
There is no excuse for not matching the pressure of your opponent. There is no excuse for poor inside-50 delivery. There is no excuse for missing easy set shots for goal. There is no excuse for opposition forwards running unchecked into their forward-50 and scoring easy goals. There is no excuse for not playing on immediately when you are trailing and have to score to win the game.
Mental strength and superior tactics. That’s what won it for the Crows this week.
Can they apply them to their remaining games? Can Port recover?
On Friday, the Power plays Geelong in Geelong. It’s a challenge that will test all of those qualities that determine sporting success. The foundation looks a little shaky.
 
graham has played the long game. he put up with a few years of port being good with the ultimate goal of having his parasitic genepool infest the club and water it down to something worse than average.
 
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