Both but we have not brought talent in the door. Voss can coach but the football department from fitness, asst coaches to list management are failing him
If that’s your opinion that’s fine. I struggle to find data that supports this
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Both but we have not brought talent in the door. Voss can coach but the football department from fitness, asst coaches to list management are failing him
My problem with your view is it is not my opinion but fact as evidenced by Hawthorn's recruiting compared to Austin/Carlton, our fitness level, the quality of our assistants and lack of tactical support for VossIf that’s your opinion that’s fine. I struggle to find data that supports this
Maybe a bit of bothIs it recruitment or coaching/development?
So you’re not sure it’s just or only the recruiting either?My problem with your view is it is not my opinion but fact as evidenced by Hawthorn's recruiting compared to Austin/Carlton, our fitness level, the quality of our assistants and lack of tactical support for Voss
What is he capable of? He doesn't mark, doesn't kick goals. Doesn't tackle. Please elaborate.
Nah, I think anyone who has a question mark over commitment and effort should be avoided at all costs.Any interest in Peter Wright? We were into him when he left GCS but Bombers offered more.
KPF that can support Ruck. Be good combo w TDK. Allows Charlie not to be big man target and more mobile and would allow Jack to go back
Wouldn’t cost much and still only 27. Best ahead of him
What did he do?Watch his games earlier in the year. Very impressive
So, you need people to explain it to you - yet you claim he's the worst ruck in the comp.What did he do?
What did he do?
It is all of the elements: fitness, list managment, assistant coaching that resulted from the failure of the last review, which did not address them. The last review only addressed the senior coach. It is the same behaviour at Carlton for 23 years. The solution is a football oriented board, with some modern football nous.So you’re not sure it’s just or only the recruiting either?
It is all of the elements: fitness, list managment, assistant coaching that resulted from the failure of the last review, which did not address them. The last review only addressed the senior coach. It is the same behaviour at Carlton for 23 years. The solution is a football oriented board, with some modern football nous.
Rating recruiting is carlton's relative performance with late picks compared to the side that beat us last week, as we had late picks. Hawthorn's success relative to our failure is just a fact. The Carlton list was unbalanced lacking run and carry, burst from stoppage prior to the review 4 years ago and it still is today. I just don't think you can win a flag today in a 25 week season, purely with contest and pressure.Fair. But before you were blaming recruiting
I don’t know the answer but I struggle to put it all on recruiting
NoIf we can't find a good key defender but could find a key forward. I wonder how we would go next season if we moved one of McKay or Curnow to CHB? Either would be immediate elite defenders. Just a thought if say Peter Wright is gettable.
I'm not sure how this works out, just a thought.
You can't claim as fact because you can't argue the counterfactualRating recruiting is carlton's relative performance with late picks compared to the side that beat us last week, as we had late picks. Hawthorn's success relative to our failure is just a fact. The Carlton list was unbalanced lacking run and carry, burst from stoppage prior to the review 4 years ago and it still is today. I just don't think you can win a flag today in a 25 week season, purely with contest and pressure.
Very few that have class and ability to actually beat the competitions best opponents 1v1Not sure about that, he's the best 1v1 defender in the comp by a margin which the stats show. He has been for a few years. Suggesting his intercepting is better would have him as the best intercepting backman by a long way.
But your overall point I agree with, I'd like him to be allowed to play a little looser and more an intercepting role, it's something we miss. I know McGov and Kemp notionally play the role but I'm not convinced by either.
If Kemp or McGovern are our CHB next season or we get Haynes. Whichever. Say Wright is a 4th rounder, cheap as...
McKay is way too good ahead of the ball. Don’t move him after a career best (or at worst second best) seasonIf Kemp or McGovern are our CHB next season or we get Haynes. Whichever. Say Wright is a 4th rounder, cheap as...
Which is better?
B: Weitering
HB: McKay
C: Cripps
HF: Wright
F: Curnow
or
B: Weitering
HB: Kemp or MCGovern or Haynes
C: Cripps
HF: McKay
F: Curnow
It's a tricky one. I've seen lesser forward lines of both win flags. I think we are a bit scared because we know how weak our small/medium forward are.
The best option is just getting a half decent key back from somewhere and keeping our 2 biggest weapons on the list where they've played 99% of their careers. Shifting either of them would be madnessIf Kemp or McGovern are our CHB next season or we get Haynes. Whichever. Say Wright is a 4th rounder, cheap as...
Which is better?
B: Weitering
HB: McKay
C: Cripps
HF: Wright
F: Curnow
or
B: Weitering
HB: Kemp or MCGovern or Haynes
C: Cripps
HF: McKay
F: Curnow
It's a tricky one. I've seen lesser forward lines of both win flags. I think we are a bit scared because we know how weak our small/medium forward are.
So was Stephen Silvagni.McKay is way too good ahead of the ball. Don’t move him after a career best (or at worst second best) season
and if we can't?The best option is just getting a half decent key back from somewhere and keeping our 2 biggest weapons on the list where they've played 99% of their careers. Shifting either of them would be madness
Isn’t the rhetoric on here always along the lines of “why are we playing x out of position”?So was Stephen Silvagni.
His brother is a gun key defender, Harry is a better player in general. Depends what is best for the team. Depends if we can get a good key defender or a good key forward.
Here'a a question. We go into next season and Haynes is not the answer. Neither are Kemp or McGovern. But Lemmy is kicking 3 or 4 each week but can't play back.
What do you do?
and if we can't?
We should have all our options open.
Future first for leeky...yeah babyNick Austin at the Williamstown - GWS game today at Willy.
Obviously keepin’ on eye on our man Haynes. Be interesting if a player like Callum Brown would be on our radar? Gifted athlete, only just turned 24 and adds another dynamic to our forward line. He’s a talent & a very difficult match up for opposition defences. Out of contract end of next year.
P.s - there’s some individual talent in that Giants reserves team. Xavier O’Hallaran, Leek Aleer (now there’s a player you’d love), Wade Derksen etc. Aleer is into his third season now - wonder how impatient he might be getting…