Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXV - 'Loopy' Season has begun

[Gointocarlton]

3rd time lucky?

Good luck with the likes of Marchbank, Martin, Cunningham and Williams (assuming we keep them all), you'll earn your money there.

 

[BlueTongue]

How much of the long bombing do you put down to the following:
- player looking like they are acting under a coaching directive
- player under pressure from the opponent
- player lacking poise to lower their eyes
- player getting overexcited and ignore coaching instruction

So, the middle two, and more importantly, which of the first & last options? That is the question. Is the whole team that silly or has it been drilled into them?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

How much of the long bombing do you put down to the following:
- player looking like they are acting under a coaching directive
- player under pressure from the opponent
- player lacking poise to lower their eyes
- player getting overexcited and ignore coaching instruction

- forwards not leading, calling for the high ball

 

[cookie monster]

Jack Silvagni will play a lot of games next season because he can play multiple positions at a good level and none at an elite level. Looking at this season he could have easily played most of our games despite not being best 22.

Over his time he has played key forward, third tall forward, part time ruck, rover and a little bit in defence. I think next season he should be trained as a key defender. Which I think will suit him. Think he could play third tall back or 2nd tall defender.

These abilities also make him the ideal sub.

For these very reasons Jack will be valuable for us next season.

Don't count on Jack playing much next season..

 

[katmanblue]

Leek Alir?

Leak would be like the panama papers

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[The Flying Doormat]

From memory (according to articles/news I used to see): I thought Burgess was regarded as the best in the business, then went to Liverpool, came back and his reputation wasn’t as good.

Now, he’s back to being the best?

Not sure about that. Had two years at Arsenal after his gig at Liverpool.

Why Arsenal's new fitness guru is considered the 'best in the world'

INTERVIEW Standard Sport caught up with former Liverpool doctor Peter Brukner - who worked with Burgess for the Australian national team - to find out about Arsenal's head of high performance

www.standard.co.uk

 

[swuzzlebubble]

From memory (according to articles/news I used to see): I thought Burgess was regarded as the best in the business, then went to Liverpool, came back and his reputation wasn’t as good.

Now, he’s back to being the best?

I read an interview with him (so obviously from his perspective) where he said a change of team manger happened and the new guy brought in his own s&c people and there was friction around his hands-on approach Vs their expectations he would have more an oversight role

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

World football is elite

Our game would be VAFA levels when you compare state of the art facilities and personnel

Harsh, but fair...
COYS.

 

[SpiritOfCarlton]

They have a BBQ and fresh fruit!

Might be a luxury for the UK.

Altitude chambers and the rest of it have been a part of AFL facilities for 20 years!

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Burgess at Melbourne had them in absolute tip top shape both on and off field. No coincidence since his departure the club has descended into complete chaos. I don't even care if he's the 'best' or not, as long as we can get our injuries to just on par with other teams I'd be happy. For almost a decade we've been consistently the worst or one of the worst for injuries practically non stop. Injury prone players definitely play a part in that but change was needed and Burgess is the top of the ladder in current footballing circles.

 

[myblueroan]

Good luck with the likes of Marchbank, Martin, Cunningham and Williams (assuming we keep them all), you'll earn your money there.

I really doubt we'll be keeping most of the above. Surely?

 

[Aphrodite]

I really doubt we'll be keeping most of the above. Surely?

Agree but don’t call me Shirley

 

[ABigOlDoofus]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of Adelaide's injuries this year have been either contact or players who have had injury troubles prior to Burgess arriving, correct? Agreed there's no guarantee it'll work out but you try and get the best regardless of if getting the "best" has burnt you in the past, especially if there's no indication he's washed.

 

[myblueroan]

Agree but don’t call me Shirley

 

[TENACIOUS]

I just dont think he's in our best 22 anymore and he's never really been a dangerous forward

Recon Jack’s a depth player next year, Kemp has more talent and has looked good as a forward. Which is fine, Jack will still get some games…

Though the move Jack into defence chant.

Sounds like the, move TDK to defence because his brother plays there and the move Harry to defence because his brother plays there, chant from a month or so ago.

 

[BeijingBlue]

So, the middle two, and more importantly, which of the first & last options? That is the question. Is the whole team that silly or has it been drilled into them?

I would suggest a combination all four. With the emphasis on poor coaching/teaching. This has been going on for far too long.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Who was employed prior to Buttifant, more specifically during the Pagan years ?

I have some memory of Pagan bringing over the weights guy from North when he started with us.

 

[Arr0w]

Just like Buttifant.
Just like Russell.

How would anyone know if it’s going to work out?

Get rid of the injury prone players

 

[Osc1]

I have some memory of Pagan bringing over the weights guy from North when he started with us.

That’s the one. Was talking to him one day. Big boy. Memory is fuzzy though. He said you watch we’ll be back. Was very confident. I told him what I thought. He was wrong.

 

[GT619]

Get rid of the injury prone players

agreed

 

[Dravid's in]

I have some memory of Pagan bringing over the weights guy from North when he started with us.

Peter Mulkearns

 

[Beyond Blue]

- forwards not leading, calling for the high ball

Good point and this is actually the issue that worries me the most.

 

[Beyond Blue]

I might “unwatch” this thread until Melbourne leak to the media they are interested in Cerra and our first for Petracca?

 

[NavySteel]

Proof is in the pudding, if he can get us to a normal or less than normal injury list week in and week out then we’ll be playing in GF’s.

I just hope he’s a believer in individual programs and can look outside the box to find differing remedies.

I also pray he’s a believer in building fitness at a lower level of football and doesn’t believe training blocks can imitate an opponent trying to smash you at every turn in the full effect of top level football


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I pray he can build hamstrings

 

[HarryFlashman]

Wow, looks like JSOS is the only player in Carlton history not to get better while injured!

FFS people, JSOS is 2nd only to Crippa in “want to win”, he was kicking ass before the injury.
People have seemingly forgotten how important it is to have a bloke on the field who is an incredibly smart footballer (something we seriously lack), halves every contest regardless of being out numbered & provides a solid lead up option.

With TDK improving he will 100% further improve the side as his inclusion stops Crippa/Kennedy taking ruck (which is blatantly stupid for Crippa to be doing IMO), it gives us a much more mobile, quick, effective spread & defence from clearance.

Two rucks will never be seen again (apart from injury) only problem we will face is that Voss wasn’t loving him but there has be growth and adaptation to our game style - JSOS seriously helps that