List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Rowan18]

Good summary of options/hopes

Whilst I love Harley starting in the guts each week, he desperately needs help. He also needs time as a forward target because we got ourselves a brilliant burst player, not an endurance beast. Unfortunately the Pieman has left us with Yeo being the only hardened inside mid. Kelly will be better on a wing or hff with occasional mid time. Hewett now looks a real worry and will take a fair time to get AFL ready if his foot can heal. Sheed is cooked. Ginbey looks best off the hbf

So we must go to market.

In terms of trading for midfielders, my preference in order
1. Peatling - main board says we have largest offer and Hawks F2 sounds ok (I’d be asking for a R3 back this year if possible)
2. Sheldrick - a F3 is my start point but might be a able to do better with a F2 if they can give us a pick in the 40’s now
3. Robertson - provided a swap of F3, I’m happy and would offer inside grunt and defensive mid
4. Parfitt - FA and has decent pace and we offer more likely starting than Cats
5. Graham - again FA but sense his lack of pace will piss me off in 3 years time

I actually don’t see Baker as a full time mid. I think he is a good player but he likely plays a utility role with stints running as a mid. If Tigers want to much, we need the AFL to cough up a FA band 3 and overpay for Graham. I’d like to explore Baker for Petruccelle plus ?? It could be Baker plus their R3 for Petch and our R2.

i get the love for Maric but if we could get Baker for Maric plus a F3, would you do it?

I like the Darling and pick 59 for picks 40,64. J Williams development this year has been great as has the form of Archer later in the season. I’d be prepared to chip in some salary to make it Darling for 40 and 64.

Hard no to Trading Maric, he has a much higher ceiling than Baker. Could be a wingman, KPD or Third tall.

I don't really see how Baker helps us. Sure, he's experienced, but he seem to fulfill the role we already have for Duggan/Cole/Witho. Senior body that can apply pressure but has shit disposal.

Baker is too small to be the inside mid/defensive mid we desperately need. His disposal is too shit to be the attacking HB we need. Cole or Maric are equal or better options on the wing. We have plenty of guys to give a crack to on HFF (Dewar, Long, Brockman, Johnson, Rawlinson).

Would happily take him if he was a FA but wouldn't even consider a second rounder for him. Tigers would want more (fair enough), so let him go join the Freo spud factory.

 

[noobermensch]

We're going back. Back to the year 2023. It was a mystical time full of possibility, when Finn O'Sullivan actually played football. There are hordes of people out there that want to know why Finn was pick 1 favourite entering this season and why many still have him at pick 1 even though he's barely fired a shot all year due to a series of unfortunate injuries. So during these gaps in the schedule over the next few weeks I'll be revisiting Finn's excellent bottom age season, and where better to start than round 1?

 

[Jupes]

i wonder if the new coach will be bringing a player with him? seems to happen all the time.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I don't want him at all, but pick 23 is the absolute most I'd pay for him.
Would rather use the pick to be honest

Yep - Rather use pick 23. (Even if we get extra pick capital, I would pay anything below 35 in this draft)
Much rather hit the draft hard.

If Baker was a few years younger, I'd agree for 23.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Bit of overreaction to eaglevision's suggestion. 100% Richmond should be asking for Maric. Doesn't mean we have to agree to it.

This board overreacting.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I once saw Ashton Hams on stilts and he cleared nic nat

I once saw Ghossein while on stilts. I cleared his first floor bathroom window.

 

[RanaNaved]

We're going back. Back to the year 2023. It was a mystical time full of possibility, when Finn O'Sullivan actually played football. There are hordes of people out there that want to know why Finn was pick 1 favourite entering this season and why many still have him at pick 1 even though he's barely fired a shot all year due to a series of unfortunate injuries. So during these gaps in the schedule over the next few weeks I'll be revisiting Finn's excellent bottom age season, and where better to start than round 1?

Hey noobermensch, have you done Tauru yet?

Love your work btw

 

[noobermensch]

Hey noobermensch, have you done Tauru yet?

Love your work btw

Not yet. He's a high priority, probably next week.

 

[chaddy22]

What would it take to get Blight across?

A airline ticket.

 

[squashface]

Petracca changed mind - gunna stay with Dees

Christian Petracca breaks silence with statement on future — 7NEWS.com.au

The Melbourne superstar has spoken for the first time since trade reports circulated.

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[Bleedblueandgold]

We need stop trading in prospective types like Ah Chee, SPS & Langdon. Jury is still out on Brockman I suppose. Even guys we tried to get like Dev Robertson.
Only bring in players that will definitely improve our team, instead of magically hoping to "unlock their potential".

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I raised Maric as a Melbourne media article had the suggestion.

I rate Maric and do not want him to go. I think he and Hutchinson are going to be walk up starters in 2025. I see him as being worth an early R2 pick we managed to land on with 2023’s pick 1 msd

I personally am not keen on Baker but think it has already been agreed. I also see the Baker and Graham come together pairing in a trade that includes getting Tigers band 3 (which is overs for Graham). That said, with Sheed now cooked, these 2 fill massive gaps on our list.

 

[Patron]

We need stop trading in prospective types like Ah Chee, SPS & Langdon. Jury is still out on Brockman I suppose. Even guys we tried to get like Dev Robertson.
Only bring in players that will definitely improve our team, instead of magically hoping to "unlock their potential".

So much this. We’ve got time. These types of players are the easiest to find. We just wasting list spots on them, that could go to rookies or 50+ types where you are always a chance of a long type that offer so much more.


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[Lia]

Trading out Maric is a deranged suggestion on its own, let alone as part of any Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

deal.

 

[Bender_]

Can't believe eaglevision hates Maric so much that he'd trade him for the love of his life Baker. Why don't you just marry him.

 

[Monocle]

Not yet. He's a high priority, probably next week.

I am a fan of the Viking, lots to like about his game and he has massive upside with the way the modern game is trending.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I am a fan of the Viking, lots to like about his game and he has massive upside with the way the modern game is trending.

What's your thoughts on Jessie Dattoli mate?

 

[eaglevision]

Can't believe eaglevision hates Maric so much that he'd trade him for the love of his life Baker. Why don't you just marry him.

Well he’d be the perfect height for extra curricular marital activities and I could insist our new blended family live in Melbourne to ensure he never left Richmond.

Glass half full Bender_

 

[Monocle]

What's your thoughts on Jessie Dattoli mate?

Think is will be a late draft pick at best, may even go un-drafted.

Would be different if his skills were a bit more crisp, more of a scrapper than a finisher.
Marks well for his height, but his movement and un clean hands will see him marked down.

The gap between his floor and his ceiling is thin, got to love his attitude and attack on the ball, but that will only get you so far if the finish is not quite right.

 

[Grahame]

Baker will drive standards, be a great player to help out Harley and whoever our pick 3 is.
If we can get him without killing our draft hand then he would be an asset

This. Apparently he was/is a contender for captain. Given his age fits a hole in our list, then we may appreciate his leadership. BUT only if he comes fairly cheap.

 

[Grahame]

We need stop trading in prospective types like Ah Chee, SPS & Langdon. Jury is still out on Brockman I suppose. Even guys we tried to get like Dev Robertson.
Only bring in players that will definitely improve our team, instead of magically hoping to "unlock their potential".

If you mean don’t recruit guys who are going to be mediocre, then fine. The question then is, how can we tell?

Redden? Yeo? Two recruits that did work out.

It’s all hit and miss much of the time.

You gotta ask yourself, do you feel lucky?

 

[EagleEgo]

For those thinking WCE should draft the best WAFL ruckman this year, East Fremantle is playing against Claremont this afternoon featuring the two possible best WAFL ruckmen O Eastland vs L Blakiston. The game will be on Ch 7.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Some understand the point of the post (which is the Richmond perspective) and some do not. We can’t just throw up the players we’re happy to lose and expect to get a deal done without losing picks. For the record if anything is not clear:

1. I do NOT want to trade Maric
2. I do NOT want to trade for Baker

Therefore it would logically follow that:

3. I do NOT want to trade Maric for Baker

It was Asterix dude who said trade Maric and put his worth as the equivalent of a late 2nd rounder in a Maric + 3rd for Liam Baker trade

It would be Baker + F3rd for Maric as opposed to the other way around for starters...

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I’ve been taking on the Richmond board. He is out of contract as he only had a 6 month deal. Apparently according to gettable wce have a 2 year deal on the board and Richmond only have a 1 year. I have been talking on there board and I reckon pick 59 and or f4. He is what we need.

Do we have to trade for a player coming off a rookie contract?

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[Keys]

Do we have to trade for a player coming off a rookie contract?

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If Richmond offer him a contract, then yes we have to trade for him

If they don’t, he becomes a delisted free agent and can sign with whoever he pleases