List Mgmt. 2025 List Management 📃

[HarryFlashman]

If it’s purely about list positions are we allowed to say the quiet part aloud?

Is the quiet bit - why the **** haven’t we paid out and booted Fantasia & kept Carroll if it’s about list spots?

It could be we just let him go to somewhere else where he’s more likely to get a game

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Our B&F disagrees with "none of our top dozen."

Availability is paramount. The club said this ar the conclusion of the season. On a per game basis Kennedy may not have been "top dozen" but overall finished tenth.

I'd love to know who we're replacing our depth with .

It's gone from a strength to a question mark.

We had players down for various reasons including injury, but I'd have Cripps, Walsh, Curnow, McKay, TDK, Newman, Weitering, Saad, McGovern, Cerra, Acres, Docherty ahead of Chugga, but sure, it is all opinion, and maybe I could have said top 8/9/10, but I really just mean our A grade players (by pedigree or talent, not necessarily 2024 form).

I love Kennedy and I defended him at every turn. Consistent, honest footballer with some strong traits. The one paced midfield was part of the reason we failed in the end, and Kennedy left to play midfield more often.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Is the quiet bit - why the **** haven’t we paid out and booted Fantasia & kept Carroll if it’s about list spots?

It could be we just let him go to somewhere else where he’s more likely to get a game

100% he is leaving to get more games elsewhere, just like Kennedy did. If he gets picked up as a DFA, we can be proud of the club looking after players' welfare.

 

[ctwenty1]

Good luck to Jack with his career after us.

Tbh never really saw enough to think he would make it.

Right call, and I am not meaning it to be harsh

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

all those lamenting depth or lack of...we still have the same number of players and now won't have 6 unusable constantly injured guys and 3 unusable project players. The depth is more likely to actually increase

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

This is spot on

We moved on good players who played their roll well. Owies and Kennedy and replaced them with nothing?

We haven't addressed our lack of speed across the ground yet we lost very handy solid players. Our only gain is Haynes.

This replaced them with nothing line is beyond disingenuous

 

[zeeCFC]

We should really push to turn Lemmey into a defender. He's built his body up now, he's a good kick and seems like a smart footballer. He'll also play many more games than waiting for Harry or Charlie to get injured and hope we actually play him instead of playing SOS or Pitto and TDK

 

[Michael Jezz]

Jack Carroll is a confusing one. Pick 41 four years back, 20-odd games and most of the this year. What has he not done? Or why are we NOW convinced he can’t do it?

That’s what the sort of pick we got Kennedy for buys you. Feels like we delist a hell of a lot of our second and third rounders after getting exactly **** all out of them.

Carrol is the definition of a Vanilla footballer & that will not win premierships

 

[BlueTongue]

Is the quiet bit - why the **** haven’t we paid out and booted Fantasia & kept Carroll if it’s about list spots?

It could be we just let him go to somewhere else where he’s more likely to get a game

^ 1000% this. Voss’ unashamed jobs for mates has got to be undermining our culture. Not just his blatant reluctance to admit a failed experiment, but also cutting a healthy player with potential. Crippas Home State mate also. Shithouse.

 

[The Bighouse]

It was Jack Carroll for some.

No great P.O.D to remain but likely a VFL footballer in ‘25 and we don’t wish to be paying mid-tier contracts for those players.
Kennedy, J.Carroll, Martin, Marchy, DC, Owies = lower budget replacements incoming.

 

[Foucault1989]

Were you worried about it at the start of our 2024 season? Or just now???

Yep I was worried then but more now without players like Kennedy and Carrol

 

[JJBagger]

^ 1000% this. Voss’ unashamed jobs for mates has got to be undermining our culture. Not just his blatant reluctance to admit a failed experiment, but also cutting a healthy player with potential. Crippas Home State mate also. Shithouse.

What’s the difference between Voss giving “jobs for mates” and keeping a player on because he’s mates with the captain in your mind?

 

[BigFrizz36]

Yep I was worried then but more now without players like Kennedy and Carrol

You are genuinely worried about our 2025 season because, in part, Jack Carroll is not on our list?

 

[BigFrizz36]

^ 1000% this. Voss’ unashamed jobs for mates has got to be undermining our culture. Not just his blatant reluctance to admit a failed experiment, but also cutting a healthy player with potential. Crippas Home State mate also. Shithouse.

What a load of rubbish. They play completely different positions.

Fantasia was offered another year by Port Adelaide. He did a medical at the giants. We offered him two years as a delisted free agent (as did the giants supposedly) as a DFA who cost us nothing to trade because we asked him to uproot his family snd move interstate. He would be on a basic contract.

He played more games as a high half forward than we would have liked due to Cottrells injuries. Hopefully he can have a year at being a small forward and seeing how he goes and playing the odd senior game here and there.

It's no secret that we are drafting a mid at #3 and Ben Camporeale. We have high hopes for Cooper Lotd who we took in last year's mid season draft. Refreshing the bottom edges of our midfield is why we are looking at Pick 3. Ben Camporeale and Cooper Lord and have let Matthew Kennedy and Jack carroll go.

Our culture would already be pretty poor if you believe that our players have a mindset of "I'm upset because we cut a player from the same state as Crippa"

 

[GapInIkonPark]

Outs (Senior)
Marchbank
Cuningham
Martin
Owies
Kennedy
J Carroll

Ins (Senior)
Haynes


Outs (Rookies)
Mirkov
Akuie
S Durdin *
M Caroll *

* ‘Train on’ / Supplemental list opportunity


So a net 5 senior list positions and 4 rookie list positions.
Or 4 and 5 respectively with Boyd elevation.

I wonder if we are considering taking a DFA.


Newman. Weitering. Boyd.
Saad. McGovern. Cowan.
Acres. Cripps. O Hollands.
E Hollands. McKay. Williams.
Motlop. Curnow. Moir.
R. TDK. Walsh. Cerra.
I. Hewett. Docherty. Haynes. Kemp.


Depth.

Fantasia. C Durdin. Binns. Pittonett. Lemmey. Young. Wilson. Cincotta. Cottrell. Silvagni. Fogarty.

(Rookies) Lord. O’Keeffe. Monahan.

Draft picks

Must be depth thread something something …

 

[swuzzlebubble]

So a net 5 senior list positions and 4 rookie list positions

You will need to add Duffy as new rookie

 

[Benaly28]

LDU / Ed Richards

20

Ed Richards

Age

25

Ht

188cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.4

4star

MG

201.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.3

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

198.3

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

232.4

4star

please next year free agents.Exactly the types we need.


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[Bfevola]

Anyone think we may be wasting our time with Monahan. I know it was his 1st year, but I dont think he showed much.

 

[JJBagger]

LDU / Ed Richards please next year free agents.Exactly the types we need.


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Don’t need LDU. Ed Richards is a star, but still not sold on him being any more than a one season wonder at this stage

 

[Arr0w]

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[El Topo]

LDU / Ed Richards please next year free agents.Exactly the types we need.


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The 2017 draft trauma is real

 

[kreuze_missile]

The 2017 draft trauma is real

Let me take you back to 2014, the single worst draft/trade/recruitment period by any club in the history of the league.

Traded out Pick 7 & 19 for Kristian Jaksch and Mark Whiley

Pick 19 - Blaine Boekhurst
Pick 28 - Dillon Vojo-Rainbow
Pick 60 - Clem Smith
Pick 63 - Jayden Foster
PSD - Jason Tutt
Rookie draft - Billy Gowers, Brad Walsh, Tom Fields, Fraser Russell
Delisted free agent - Matthew Dick

Only positive was Liam Jones for Pick 46.

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

Let me take you back to 2014, the single worst draft/trade/recruitment period by any club in the history of the league.

Traded out Pick 7 & 19 for Kristian Jaksch and Mark Whiley

Pick 19 - Blaine Boekhurst
Pick 28 - Dillon Vojo-Rainbow
Pick 60 - Clem Smith
Pick 63 - Jayden Foster
PSD - Jason Tutt
Rookie draft - Billy Gowers, Brad Walsh, Tom Fields, Fraser Russell
Delisted free agent - Matthew Dick

Only positive was Liam Jones for Pick 46.

We traded pick 7 for pick 19 + Jaksch and Whiley.

I remember the reasoning at the time from Shane Rogers was that we wanted a presence in the first round still, while bringing in KP/midfield talent.

 

[kreuze_missile]

We traded pick 7 for pick 19 + Jakach and Whiley

I feel a lot better about the 16 quality games we got from them too

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Anyone think we may be wasting our time with Monahan. I know it was his 1st year, but I dont think he showed much.

Worth a crack, exceptional athlete and exceptional skills in GAA

If it doesn’t click next year then agree, no loss to us though - don’t mind us grabbing Irish kids