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If you get offered an end of first you'll take it. No one is trading a top 10 pick for McKay. You clearly wanted him gone for the compo and I'm sure he wouldn't go back.

They didn't actually. The AFL allowed them to change the terms of the contract and still get the pick. Should never have been allowed. You should take the contract as it stands if you get the benefit of the pick. Rort

Is someone actually selecting for the Suns?

I know you don't want to hear from an Essendon supporter right and i have no idea what's going on with Dunkley. But I just wanted to say that this classiest, most measured trade thread I've ever read. Nice work Dogs - impressive. :thumbsu:

So one is a proven talent. Finished top 3 in b&f for the past 3 years for their club and one of the best attacking half backs in the league. Being offered 650k over 5 years. And just hitting his peak. The other is a talented but unproven kid with an injury history. 4 years on 450k. But they're...

He’s been offered a good contract, 4 x 450k, on potential. But he certainly hasn’t gone up in value since being traded. Due to an embarrassment of riches in GWS’s midfield he hasn’t had an opportnity to shine - 11 games in two years and hasn’t dominated in those games. A pick 16-22 will get the...

Thanks. I thought you might you might have gone a bit harder at Crouch because you'd heard you weren't getting Caldwell - hoping. Time will tell. Well done on Crouch.

Excuse me. Just curious. Have you got 1M + for Crouch and Caldwell. I have no idea about your salary cap but you did bring in 5 players last year.

Sounds like Brad Crouch is your man

other than size he improves them all. he’s not small but not the massive bodied bull.

That story was leaked by Carlton to reignite the narrative that Dodoro is difficult. Hoping that the public is on your side when you try and pull the same scumbag move you pulled on Gold Coast last year.

Where's that been reported? Bigfooty? It seems Carlton are very willing to do a fair deal is it? What is Carlton actually offering? Funny the Carlton propaganda piece doesn't mention that.

With what? Put your nuts on the line. Caving with what?

How would you any of what you just wrote? What rubbish. Pick 9 and 25 he stays. When have we asked for 5,9 and two gun players? You just made that shit up.

Maybe he enjoys being in the bubble when he's on MCG kicking goals. Lots of maybe's to this.

He gets on the park and plays some good footy for Essendon next year he might end up staying. Its not like he's heading home to Sydney.

Well played Carlton supporters - showing some class.

Both the Bombers and Hawks have enough in their cap for Shiel. Neither are desperate enough to match the supposed offers from Carlton or the Saints though.

To get him out of GWS I'd think 800-900. 1.2-1.3M is crazy and I can't see how he could knock that back.

If any team pays Shiel 1.3M it will be madness. Desperation.

Unlike Hawthorn supporters we're a very cautious bunch

But that can't be right. I've already taken it to the bank he's going to Hawthorn. They've told us so with such authority. Will nominate Hawthorn they say.

Announce Essendon or just the fact he's leaving?

Other than the vibe, why do we think he's going to Hawthorn? Is it because their supporters type with such 'confidence' or has there been something I've missed?

It's the vibe

Oh. The vibe! That's done then. I've taken it to the bank.

Know him personally too? You his boxing coach?

Well North are doing well then. Polac, Hall and Gaff. With enough money to get Kelly next year. If you are his boxing coach you probably shouldn't post on BF what your clients are up to.

Know him personally do you?

So a family member or close friend has you supporting GWS. But you'll be supporting the Bombers next year?