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Really? But it's not "unfair" to get Lever and May in consecutive years? Swings and roundabouts.

Depends if he's one of the top 25% in the club this year. Was it a back or front ended deal?

If Parish is so good, Essendon will sign him up.

Crouch's 2017 was pretty damn good, not just disposals, but his speed and break away from clearances. Most in Vic wouldn't have seen him play every second week and if your name isn't Bontempelli or Cripps, Vic media don't realise if you play well or not. Parish in 21 was really good, but...

Alternatively, clubs might look at more than 1 year. 2022 - 6 votes 2021 - 26 votes 2020 - 0 votes 2019 - 2 votes 2018 - 0 votes 2021 was an anomaly. Any club who gives him a deal north of $800k (band 1) should be shut down.

Yeah, but Justin Reid is still the worst list manager in the competition. 🥱

Does this belong in the Mattaes Phillipou thread?

Which he probably thinks makes the punishment worth it. Irresponsible by the TV station to put that on TV, but they're just going for clicks. Same deal as the story about sharks feeding off the while nearPt Lincoln last night..."people are too close to the sharks and are irresponsible" - yet...

You hadn't fig-ured that our before?

I don't think not getting pick 50-70 in this year's draft is anything to cry about if we get nothing next year. Regardless of what happens next year, it's the right decision IMO.

Mitch Thorpe - pick 6 in 2007 (Hawks), delisted at end of 2009 (3 seasons) - 2 games Beau Dowler - pick 6 in 2005 (Hawks), delisted at end of 2010 (5 seasons) - 16 games Pick 6 curse strikes again, but we've gone back over 15 years to find a couple of examples.

Such as Turner?

Really? Got a source for this? GC wouldn't have accepted a pick this year, so maybe we kept Geelong's 3rd next year? What, a pick in the early 50s? That's the same value as what we'd have got for Fish this year, plus would probably have had to pay some of his salary.

Correct. You don't lose on an investment until you sell it. If you purchase 1000 shares at $5, then they drop to $0.01, do you sell and say "at least I got $10", or do you ride it out and risk the $10 for the chance the price might increase again?

3. Let Essendon keep him on that wage and move onto other targets

Hopefully to join his brother

If he's not good enough, why is 2023 exciting? Shouldn't it be a dismal year ahead?

Maybe paying players to play at other clubs isn't the absolute disaster some people make it out to be. It happens ALL the time in MLB. We don't want it to happen, but it's not shut the club down type of hysteria

...at a cost of an estimated $82m to taxpayers.

Be strapped and ready to go at the start of the game.

No fans at Melb Victory games for the next 5 years. Problem solved.

Hmm, what's the preconceived idea SEN is trying to give here...let's take a quick look at the photos for who the good and bad guys. SEN is the Woman's Day of AFL media.

Wasn't he being applauded in 2019 when he traded in Howard, Ryder, Butler and Hill, then Higgins and Crouch the next year? How the wheel turns!

I'd probably go for Harry Himmelberg ahead of Redmond, I think he has the ability to play defence, mid and forward, and an elite leg. GWS's cap is still surely tighter than Essendon's so the ability to match an offer would be less I'd think.

UFA or RFA?

That's code for "It's too hard to do a proper assessment, we just need a headline".

And why was it we couldn't have curtain raisers again?

I'd argue ROB's 13 pressure acts to Gawn's 10 and English's 12 is more relevant but if you think meters gained is the important stat, we'll agree to disagree.