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So based on having a very good year in a very, very good side - Thomas is now a better player than Murphy? Last 3 years Carlton B&F Murphy finished: 3rd 2010 2nd 2009 2nd 2008 All of those behind Judd. Thomas: 15th 2009 8th 2008 The Pies dont even rate him. One stand out year as a...

So Judd's teammates dont like him? What role do you have in the Carlton inner sanctum? Could care less whether he endears himself to other teams fans, especially the Pie filth ones.

I'm sure you jizzed your pants every week when Nafan played. And when Judd left the Eagles they were in the finals, not on the bottom of the ladder as many nob-heads continue to make out.

Nathan Buckley? **** of a bloke, whose teammates were forced to tolerate his beligerent, selfish, abusive personality because he was such a great player.

There does tend to be a bit of Hodge hysteria from Hawks fans, no doubt due to fact they drafted him ahead of Judd many years ago and feel the need to justify that decision somewhat. Not a Carlton thing at all. Very different players, but Hawks/Blues would both be very happy with who they have.

Ok, as a Hawks fan you're clearly unbiased. Yes, I now agree - based on half a season, Luke Hodge is now the greatest player that ever lived. Close thread.

No - because I have more faith that those mediums are a little more informed and far less biased than the majority of BF rubbish posted. FWIW - Hodge is having a gun year and well done to him, but lets keep things in perspective, that's all.

couldn't be bothered reading anymore of this read - you've nailed it with this comment :thumbsu: tiresome lot are some of the BF posters (especially WCE supporters who now consider Judd 'just a player' now he doesn't wear their jumper)

No coincidence that Vozzo was the umpire either. All game, the most disgraceful bias from an individual umpire I can recall.

Find it amusing that now Melbourne are starting to make some progress that the finger pointing of 'tankers' has begun. Seems only Carlton & Melbourne have tanked in the last 7-8 years. Every other team which bottomed-out in that period, which includes Collingwood & Hawthorn, simply...

there's more than enough people posting comments on players from clubs other than their own to make it worth a read...

or you could just piss off and read / comment on other threads that take your fancy?

Re: Chris Judd's Kicking Effecieny This is why I like to visit the BF site. Congratulations on showing yourself to be the most ignorant supporter on BF (and there's some pretty stiff competition too).

Re: Chris Judd's Kicking Effecieny yes, that must be the reason then. thanks.

Re: Chris Judd's Kicking Effecieny Correct. I was thinking Carlton should start hiding him in the back 50, minding a nobody from the opposition, with no tagger in sight, whilst running behind team mates to rack up stats, easy possessions & the unwarranted plaudits of the media?

once in a life time list of players (all under the salary cap courtesy of Waldron of course) - and you still have nothing to show for it - PLEB II agree 12-0 also agree 16 flags to........1 was it??? all the best with your 'luck of the draw' game plan to win a flag while the window is open...

gee I hope Carlton apply defensive pressure then - because Saints players will run & hide into a 6-7 goal "shoot out" because they haven't got the guts to back themselves

i agree FM, bunch of tossers - because I know that if teams other than St.Failure put up that tu*rd of a game for our viewing, you would also be supporting what a wonderful spectacle it was - because you're not a hypocrite

everything you've all said is fuking crap - wait till JD & Fireman return from the game and tell us all how magnificent the Saints were, and that footy was the real winner, it was the Doggies fault not theirs - from a pinko, commo, leftie point of view anyway.....oh yeah, and that Carlton are...

the humour for me is that finally after 1000 years, StK have managed to collect a decent bunch of talent - and yet they CHOOSE to play a game style like that, one that will always give the opposition a chance. Why not back yourself that you're the better team and go for it? Old (ancient) habits...

Played a rabble tonight, but just how did the legend Nick go in last years GF when it mattered? That's right the great Harry Who? kept him to nothing....or maybe he was on his period so all's forgiven.

True (in your eye) but who gives a shit what the most biased Saints nob-head on BF thinks about this?

Brown by far, but then again mine's an unbiased view so will probably be shot down by Riewoldt sycophants.....

don't worry about The Fireman (emphasis on 'The') - he's your classic Carlton-hating Saints fan who pretends to be unbiased & articulate about footy but is really just a red-neck bogan with more bias & hang-ups about Carlton than a KKK member......

Re: The Curtain Raiser... yep, again mate it's the $$$$$$$ - "long run" to the AFL refers to Sydney & Gold Coast only, not their traditional home base of AFL support.

Re: The Curtain Raiser... nah mate, not at all. We're all very used to your very thinly veiled criticism with anything Carlton related. But since you asked: the AFL is a money-driven goliath, just look at Andy's pay packet. He & the AFL does not give two fcks about what you think is a quality...

ahh, an arrogant Saints fan - hahahahahaha

Re: The Curtain Raiser... just alerting any newbies to your Carlton troll-fest.......

Re: The Curtain Raiser... "worldwide" ?????????? thanks for the optimism, but doubt the rest of the world was hanging on March 25th as the one & only exposure to AFL. Nice try anyany Firey.

should sit at half-back minding "fresh air" getting the same kudos as some over-hyped Hawthorn player? Get over it, you ****ed up and chose the wrong player in the draft.