AFL Player #16: Archie Perkins - Re-signed for two more years - 3/6

[Beerfish]

Contract Status: Out of contract 2024
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 9, sup3rfish

 

[joey_jo_jo]

Perkins has a much better tank than Stringer and would play higher IMO. He generally takes the game forward and central when he gets possession, which I'd think makes him well suited to that high-half forward role if he's going to play anywhere.

We've got issues because we're trying to play 2 'tall' mediums alongside 1 - 2 genuine KPPs (I'd put Caddy in that category) and 1 - 2 Ruckmen. Neither of those mediums provide elite ground level pressure, nor does Wright or Draper, and we lack smalls with genuine closing speed. It's a bad mix.

Removing Stringer doesn't fix everything, but it opens up a spot for Perkins + a small who should both be more capable of providing ground level pressure and are younger which gives scope for the future.

Stringer is what he is, if we're not likely to be challenging in the next 2 years we're not going to get what we need from him and if he can get a good contract from a contender I'd say it probably works for both long-term for him to take it.

If he's staying, we need to use him more intelligently than we have been, and work out where Perkins fits in a forward-line that already has two medium sized goal-kickers, or I wouldn't be averse to seeing Martin back to the wing and trying Perkins off half-back given he's quite a decent kick and tends to go forward not sideways.

You make some fair points, my concern with perkins though is despite the tank, and a beautiful kick he hasnt displayed much footy IQ to date, I know some will scoff at this but I think Jake has one of the strongest footy IQs in the team (which is what Merrett suggested in an interview earlier in season in lead up to Jakes 200th) which is why he can get away with the lack of tank.
100% agree though that the forward line balance is totally out of whack atm, but I think we need to back some of the young smalls instead of Perkins.

 

[ant555]

Easy to have fun when you're winning, I suspect Richmond was fun but now isn't as fun, for example.

Was thinking the same. Although the Tigers had to twist Hardwicke's arm a bit on the fun stakes but they had played some finals footy before they sat down mid 2016 and trashed out what was on peoples minds.

 

[faible]

You make some fair points, my concern with perkins though is despite the tank, and a beautiful kick he hasnt displayed much footy IQ to date, I know some will scoff at this but I think Jake has one of the strongest footy IQs in the team (which is what Merrett suggested in an interview earlier in season in lead up to Jakes 200th) which is why he can get away with the lack of tank.
100% agree though that the forward line balance is totally out of whack atm, but I think we need to back some of the young smalls instead of Perkins.

I agree, Stringer has extremely high football IQ even if he's a bit selfish and/or lazy at times with what he chooses to do. He has a level of power few guys in the AFL possess and IMO if we keep him, he needs to just play as an undersized FF since there's no circumstance where a defender will allow him to sit unmanned in the forward-line, which forces the opposition to stretch their zone to keep him covered.

Perkins has all the physical tools needed to be a decent AFL player, I just don't think he's got the nous to play midfield which we tried this year. So either we play him as a high half-forward that can provide an aerial presence, a nice kick i50, offer a scoring option himself, and that has the ability to stand up in tackles over contested balls. Or we try him behind the ball where the play comes 'at' him - which is basically how he played midfield, worked off an opponent and relied on his physical ability to be useful.

 

[FlyingV]

I agree, Stringer has extremely high football IQ even if he's a bit selfish and/or lazy at times with what he chooses to do. He has a level of power few guys in the AFL possess and IMO if we keep him, he needs to just play as an undersized FF since there's no circumstance where a defender will allow him to sit unmanned in the forward-line, which forces the opposition to stretch their zone to keep him covered.

Perkins has all the physical tools needed to be a decent AFL player, I just don't think he's got the nous to play midfield which we tried this year. So either we play him as a high half-forward that can provide an aerial presence, a nice kick i50, offer a scoring option himself, and that has the ability to stand up in tackles over contested balls. Or we try him behind the ball where the play comes 'at' him - which is basically how he played midfield, worked off an opponent and relied on his physical ability to be useful.

It’s funny how they seem so determined to get him to be a midfielder. With Caldwell, Durham, Hobbs and Tsatas coming through, it’s clear that the clubs need is for him to be an effective forward.

 

[faible]

It’s funny how they seem so determined to get him to be a midfielder. With Caldwell, Durham, Hobbs and Tsatas coming through, it’s clear that the clubs need is for him to be an effective forward.

Wonder whether they wanted to let him sink or swim to show him where he's at.

 

[jdstorm]

club wants Jake to be a mid because when he’s not gassed he’s a really good mid.

Playing On Ball and resting HHF is what got him his last contract.

One of the highest IQ players and best users on the team.

When he’s playing one out as a pseudo key forward he gets overpowered by guys 10cm taller who are just as fast if not faster then he is.

 

[Runk]

Some really good ideas in here on Perko.

Personally I'd love to see him plays a a defensive attacker as people have suggested allowing the ball/play to come to him. Developing him much like a Liam Baker

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222.2

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14.6

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3.8

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at Richmond in many respects. Someone who is defensively minded but links up play coming out of defence, can move through the middle and is good user with the ball. For that to occur he's going to need plenty of it. Remember footy nouse comes with experience too (something Stringer has in spades) and he's in no way a moron so getting the coaching staff to develop his understanding of the role is (obviously) super important. Anyway that's my take...

 

[ant555]

Some really good ideas in here on Perko.

Personally I'd love to see him plays a a defensive attacker as people have suggested allowing the ball/play to come to him. Developing him much like a Liam Baker at Richmond in many respects. Someone who is defensively minded but links up play coming out of defence, can move through the middle and is good user with the ball. For that to occur he's going to need plenty of it. Remember footy nouse comes with experience too (something Stringer has in spades) and he's in no way a moron so getting the coaching staff to develop his understanding of the role is (obviously) super important. Anyway that's my take...

It could work for him at half back as the defensive transition is not as complicated. Unlike forward or midfield it is a basic up and back defense in the back end of the zone.

 

[Runk]

It could work for him at half back as the defensive transition is not as complicated. Unlike forward or midfield it is a basic up and back defense in the back end of the zone.

I don't want to say it's the easiest thing for him either, you know? Rather it seems like the role he could really excel at. Work rate is key, but so is a defensive understanding of the game. That's something I think he lacks so seeing him develop that would make him a more rounded player overall.

 

[MiguelM]

Some really good ideas in here on Perko.

Personally I'd love to see him plays a a defensive attacker as people have suggested allowing the ball/play to come to him. Developing him much like a Liam Baker at Richmond in many respects. Someone who is defensively minded but links up play coming out of defence, can move through the middle and is good user with the ball. For that to occur he's going to need plenty of it. Remember footy nouse comes with experience too (something Stringer has in spades) and he's in no way a moron so getting the coaching staff to develop his understanding of the role is (obviously) super important. Anyway that's my take...

Don't see him as having close to the attack on the ball and speed of Baker but coaches need to look at the Hawks game and build consistency off that IMO. Was his best game for the club by a mile.