1st ODI Australia v Pakistan, November 4 1400hrs @ the MCG

[Moonwatcher]

If you paid $95 for Friday membership was only just over $400 this year and you're sorted for all games.

Spent $300 all up on Day 1 of test , Pakistan ODI and NYE BBL. So the value's there.

 

[Around the Wicket]

Having it behind a paywall has been disastrous for interest.

I didn’t even know it was on so advertisement must have been non existent

 

[eltrain]

Reckon ODI crowds at the MCG at least began to decline from the 1999/00 season onwards. The rise of T20 just excaberated that.

Also ODIs used to have the prime January slots that the BBL has now. Them being held this time of the year is also a factor in smaller crowds.

We still had full houses through to 2006/07. As mentioned earlier, that was the season that security really clamped down and the wave and beach balls were banned. The following season was the last of the tri series as the writing was on the wall.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Did not think that was out!

 

[Around the Wicket]

Australia aren’t even celebrating wickets, hardly seem interested lol

 

[big_e]

I looked at best available for the G and it was 120.

30 for GA at the 38th over mark

There's a disconnect between the pricing and how CA and the public see the product.

People aren't that interested in bilateral ODIs anymore, CA do almost no promo for them, yet they charge premium prices. I've said before how I paid $90 for a family of four to a double-header at the T20 World Cup in 2022 - that should be the pricing for ODIs.

 

[MJG14]

I didn’t even know it was on so advertisement must have been non existent

I forgot it was on until I saw a CA advertisement a few days ago, either on TV or YouTube

 

[Gough]

We still had full houses through to 2006/07. As mentioned earlier, that was the season that security really clamped down and the wave and beach balls were banned. The following season was the last of the tri series as the writing was on the wall.

That season was a bit of an outlier with England coming back for the first time since the 05 Ashes, the crowds were mad for almost all games.

 

[Ross]

Having it behind a paywall has been disastrous for interest.

It's accelerated the demise but things were already terminal. As I mentioned in an earlier post, ODIs haven't drawn big crowds since T20s started in the mid 2000s. There was an ODI against Sri Lanka at the MCG in 2011 that drew less than 20K and on TV it came across like there were more Sri Lankans in attendance than Australians.

 

[NYRB]

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leading the Bay 13 cheer squad after the Pakistan 9th wicket

 

[wagstaff]

We still had full houses through to 2006/07. As mentioned earlier, that was the season that security really clamped down and the wave and beach balls were banned. The following season was the last of the tri series as the writing was on the wall.

For the tri-series the opening match at the MCG was still huge in this period, but there were clear signs of weakness when the ground hosted one of the finals.

Used to be guaranteed a full house but can recall as early as 97/98 a final against SA not reaching 50k. And the finals MCG hosted in 99/00 and 00/01 i think we're well short of 50k.

 

[Gough]

It's accelerated the demise but things were already terminal. As I mentioned in an earlier post, ODIs haven't drawn big crowds since T20s started in the mid 2000s. There was an ODI against Sri Lanka at the MCG in 2011 that drew less than 20K and on TV it came across like there were more Sri Lankans in attendance than Australians.

Having it on free to air keeps it in people's consciousness, it's turned on almost unthinkingly by many and a good game or a controversy will be watercooler the next day. All that disappears when it's tucked away on Kayo and Fox.

 

[Cleavy]

Having it on free to air keeps it in people's consciousness, it's turned on almost unthinkingly by many and a good game or a controversy will be watercooler the next day. All that disappears when it's tucked away on Kayo and Fox.

or when you're getting a coffee from the Cafe Bar

 

[Cleavy]

should have rolled these chumps for sub-150, but probably got the directive to make a game of it, so Fox doesn't have to dig into the Davey Warner highlights bag as standby programming.

 

[Ross]

Having it on free to air keeps it in people's consciousness, it's turned on almost unthinkingly by many and a good game or a controversy will be watercooler the next day. All that disappears when it's tucked away on Kayo and Fox.

ODIs were losing interest years before the Foxtel deal started but yeah I agree that it was a short-sighted decision from CA putting it all on Fox. Think of how 25 years ago John Eales and George Gregan were pretty much on the same level as Steve Waugh and Shane Warne and yet most of us today probably couldn't name a single Wallabies player.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

or when you're getting a coffee from the Cafe Bar

I'm sure car dealerships still have those

 

[Cleavy]

I'm sure car dealerships still have those

cockroaches like this

 

[eddiesmith]

ODIs were losing interest years before the Foxtel deal started but yeah I agree that it was a short-sighted decision from CA putting it all on Fox. Think of how 25 years ago John Eales and George Gregan were pretty much on the same level as Steve Waugh and Shane Warne and yet most of us today probably couldn't name a single Wallabies player.

Probably the last time the Wallabies won a game

 

[Cleavy]

ODIs were losing interest years before the Foxtel deal started but yeah I agree that it was a short-sighted decision from CA putting it all on Fox. Think of how 25 years ago John Eales and George Gregan were pretty much on the same level as Steve Waugh and Shane Warne and yet most of us today probably couldn't name a single Wallabies player.

they're all rubbish so wouldn't want to watch to try and name one.

 

[eltrain]

For the tri-series the opening match at the MCG was still huge in this period, but there were clear signs of weakness when the ground hosted one of the finals.

Used to be guaranteed a full house but can recall as early as 97/98 a final against SA not reaching 50k. And the finals MCG hosted in 99/00 and 00/01 i think we're well short of 50k.

Just looking back at the records - the 97/98 crowds were very ordinary (relatively) at the G.

First game (17 Dec vs NZ) - 31k
Second game (21 Jan vs NZ) - 27k
Third game (23 Jan vs SA) - 44k

And yep - first final in 2000 vs Pakistan was 39k and the first final in 2001 vs WI was 32k. First final in 2005 was 27k. Compared with 75k for the first final in 1989.

So the decline was indeed already there around 2000.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

they're all rubbish so wouldn't want to watch to try and name one.

Sualli probably their best player and he hasn’t played a game lol

 

[Rocco sifreddi]

At least Pakistan made it past 200 but that probably won't be enough unless they can take some early wickets.

Dissapointed they let the Aussies dictate the game from the start hopefully they take a different approach if they bat first again.

 

[wagstaff]

Just looking back at the records - the 97/98 crowds were very ordinary (relatively) at the G.

First game (17 Dec vs NZ) - 31k
Second game (21 Jan vs NZ) - 27k
Third game (23 Jan vs SA) - 44k

And yep - first final in 2000 vs Pakistan was 39k and the first final in 2001 vs WI was 32k. First final in 2005 was 27k. Compared with 75k for the first final in 1989.

So the decline was indeed already there around 2000.

MCG was always going to be the canary in the coal mine for declining ODI interest in Oz because it's capacity meant you didn't have to fear a sell-out.

 

[wagstaff]

fwiw, MCG may have underestimated the crowd today. I am the ground and there are massive lines to any of the few food places within the ground.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Least this will be fun pity we aren’t playing India in these ODI’s