2013 crowds thread

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Melbourne home ground, Sunday arvo, Melbourne are pretty darn shit, expected to be a blow out and pretty boring game.

I didn't expect anymore. Actually I thought it was a good turn out by the Hawks fans. We outnumbered the Dees fans easily.
Given this was a Hawthorn member replacement game we shouldn't be too surprised the Hawks fans held sway in the stands..
 
Yeah, we've played shit football all year and we're still 2nd in attendances
Yeah, we've played shit football all year and we're still 2nd in attendances
So they should be. Essendon are yet to play Carlton. And if they played Geelong and St kilda at the MCG (like Richmond), they would most likely be 3rd, well in front of Carlto). Its difficult to compare club aggregate attendances these days. 2nd with an asterix I guess.

Thank god the big clubs are propping up some of the glaringly poor attendances being registered around the country.
 
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Melbourne home ground, Sunday arvo, Melbourne are pretty darn shit, expected to be a blow out and pretty boring game.

I didn't expect anymore. Actually I thought it was a good turn out by the Hawks fans. We outnumbered the Dees fans easily.

I expected 35k
 

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There's been a slow and steady decline for Darwin crowds. Getting a bit like Tassie, people there must be getting tired of nothing games being played there year after year.

Yep a bit strange that all the games played at the smaller interstate venues are dropping at the same time.

The problem the AFL has is its would be financial suicide to play one of the big games at any of these venues and I cant see the local authorities throwing a lot more money to compensate so they will only get shit games.
 
There's been a slow and steady decline for Darwin crowds. Getting a bit like Tassie, people there must be getting tired of nothing games being played there year after year.

Not on top of Darwin footy, but people are talking about a different more central ground, similar type scenario to footy park in Adelaide where Adelaide Oval will prove ( most likely) much better.
 
Your excuses are shit lol. Every Tiger fan expected a 10 goal smashing.

I fully understand why they moved to Tassie now. This game will draw under 20k in the future.

Absolutely, what better than to look at the past 10 or so games...

The last 10 Hawthorn-Melbourne home and away games...

2012 - 36,430
2011 - 49,905, 39,782
2010 - 45,615, 48,211
2009 - 39,395
2008 - 40,141, 41,341
2007 - 43,197
2006 - 42,985

Average: 42,800

Going by these numbers I've got grave concerns for the future of these fixtures, that is when Melbourne isn't Fitzroy'ing the league :rolleyes:
 
Absolutely, what better than to look at the past 10 or so games...

The last 10 Hawthorn-Melbourne home and away games...

2012 - 36,430
2011 - 49,905, 39,782
2010 - 45,615, 48,211
2009 - 39,395
2008 - 40,141, 41,341
2007 - 43,197
2006 - 42,985

Average: 42,800

Going by these numbers I've got grave concerns for the future of these fixtures, that is when Melbourne isn't Fitzroy'ing the league :rolleyes:


When Melbourne IS competetive the crowds, or average crowd will return, that much is pretty obvious.
 
What a load of shit from a person defending a poor attendance from a poor group of supporters

Round 1 2013 - Hawthorn V Geelong: 76,300
Round 3 2013 - Collingwood V Hawthorn: 72,254
Round 5 2013 - Hawthorn V North Melbourne: 42,103
Round 7 2013 - Hawthorn V Sydney Swans: 54,725
Round 9 2013 - Hawthorn V Gold Coast: 28,113
Round 10 2013 - Melbourne V Hawthorn: 28,524

Draw the dots. Two excellent attendances (Geelong, Sydney), three reasonable attendances (Collingwood, North Melbourne, Gold Coast) and one sub-par attendance (Melbourne)

How many Hawthorn supporters would have gone to round 1, 3 and 7 and not bothered to turn up yesterday?
 

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Wil be interesting to see how many turn up against geelong on the weekend, seems to be a lot of Cat fans in sydney.
 
Final Round10 Crowds
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Worst Darwin crowd in years, sure the dogs aren't as good as they were a few years ago but pretty disappointing crowd

The crowd was a bit below the average of the past few years (8,715 is the average over 7 games since 2010), but two of the last four games played at TIO had smaller crowds (7,255 to a game in 2011, 6,714 to another in 2012). The Bulldogs drew 10,108 to the corresponding game in 2010, but were top 4 that year. Richmond drew 11,506 in 2011. I think these fixtures are worthwhile for the game and Darwin. It's enjoyable seeing different venues on TV as well.

The round as a whole was never likely to draw a large aggregate because the bigger clashes in terms of ladder position were at grounds with moderate capacities. But the pleasing aspect is that solid crowds were drawn all over the country, despite poor weather in a majority of cases and expected blowouts in some others (e.g. the Hawks and Blues games). 25-30k at the Gabba, AAMI, Simonds (looked great under lights) and SCG, all in pretty bad weather. And tonight's game in Perth was a strong turnout, as always.

The criticism of the Melbourne-Hawthorn attendance seems misplaced. Fans who turn up to a likely 100-point thrashing, especially if Dees supporters, deserve a medal. 28k is pretty decent under the circumstances.
 
The crowd was a bit below the average of the past few years (8,715 is the average over 7 games since 2010), but two of the last four games played at TIO had smaller crowds (7,255 to a game in 2011, 6,714 to another in 2012). The Bulldogs drew 10,108 to the corresponding game in 2010, but were top 4 that year. Richmond drew 11,506 in 2011. I think these fixtures are worthwhile for the game and Darwin. It's enjoyable seeing different venues on TV as well.

The round as a whole was never likely to draw a large aggregate because the bigger clashes in terms of ladder position were at grounds with moderate capacities. But the pleasing aspect is that solid crowds were drawn all over the country, despite poor weather in a majority of cases and expected blowouts in some others (e.g. the Hawks and Blues games). 25-30k at the Gabba, AAMI, Simonds (looked great under lights) and SCG, all in pretty bad weather. And tonight's game in Perth was a strong turnout, as always.

The criticism of the Melbourne-Hawthorn attendance seems misplaced. Fans who turn up to a likely 100-point thrashing, especially if Dees supporters, deserve a medal. 28k is pretty decent under the circumstances.


Some common sense.
 
Games Total Average
Collingwood Magpies 10 608,849 (60,885)
Richmond Tigers 10 542,274 (54,227)
Essendon Bombers 10 500,770 (50,077)
Carlton Blues 10 440,165 (44,016)
Geelong Cats 10 437,704 (43,770)
Hawthorn Hawks 10 400,885 (40,088)
St Kilda Saints 10 311,588 (31,159)
Sydney Swans 10 306,573 (30,657)
Adelaide Crows 10 302,104 (30,210)
West Coast Eagles 10 297,424 (29,742)
Melbourne Demons 10 280,918 (28,092)
Fremantle Dockers 10 274,732 (27,473)
North Melbourne 10 274,084 (27,408)
Western Bulldogs 10 246,560 (24,656)
Brisbane Lions 10 226,834 (22,683)
Port Adelaide Power 10 220,949 (22,095)
GWS Giants 10 164,572 (16,457)
Gold Coast Suns 10 160,899 (16,090)
ALL 2,998,942 (33,322)
 
Home Game Averages after Rd 10

Collingwood (5)
High: 84,247 v Carlton Rd 4
Low: 40,071 v St Kilda Rd 6
Av: 65,729

Richmond (5)
High: 84,234 v Essendon Rd 9
Low: 39,148 v Melbourne Rd 8
Av: 61,000

Essendon (4)
High: 93,373 v Collingwood Rd 5
Low: 30,143 v GWS Rd 6
Av: 52,146

Carlton (5)
High: 80,971 v Richmond Rd 1
Low: 25,008 v GWS Rd 10
Av: 43,182

Geelong (4)
High: 50,014 v Essendon Rd 7
Low: 30,082 v Gold Coast Rd 10
Av: 40,122

West Coast (5)
High: 38,674 v Carlton Rd 4
Low: 36,163 v Western Bulldogs Rd 6
Av: 37,830

Hawthorn (6)
High: 76,300 v Geelong Rd 1
Low: 10,513 v GWS Rd 8
Low Melb: 28,112 v Gold Coast Rd 9
Av: 37,395

St Kilda (5)
High: 56,783 v Richmond Rd 2
Low: 22,546 v Sydney Rd 4
Low Melb: 25,982 v Western Bulldogs Rd 9
Av: 37,266

Fremantle (5)
High: 39,629 v West Coast Rd 1
Low: 32,950 v Melbourne Rd 9
Av: 36,424

Adelaide (5)
High: 42,218 v Essendon Rd 1
Low: 24,684 v Western Bulldogs Rd 4
Av: 33,303

Port Adelaide (5)
High: 40,707 v Adelaide Rd 3
Low: 21,309 v Geelong Rd 9
Av: 27,728

Sydney (5)
High: 31,060 v Geelong Rd 4
Low: 20,372 v Gold Coast Rd 2
Av: 25,417

Brisbane (5)
High: 26,626 v Collingwood Rd 10
Low: 17,615 v West Coast Rd 7
Av: 21,720

North Melbourne (5)
High: 41,040 v Collingwood Rd 1
Low: 10,265 v Port Adelaide Rd 6
Low Melb: 22,776 v Brisbane Rd 4
Av: 22,643

Melbourne (5)
High: 28,546 v Hawthorn Rd 10
Low: 13,304 v Gold Coast Rd 7
Av: 20,672

Western Bulldogs (5)
High: 26,153 v Geelong Rd 5
Low: 7,850 v Port Adelaide Rd 10
Low Melb: 19,210 v Fremantle Rd 2
Av: 20,433

Gold Coast (5)
High: 13,832 v St Kilda Rd 1
Low: 10,552 v Fremantle Rd 6
Av: 12,439

Greater Western Sydney (5)
High: 23,690 v Sydney
Low: 5,830 v Adelaide
Av: 10,737
 
Richmond VS Melbourne drew 11,000 more people. The Tiges bandwagon wasn't even in full flight.

For a club that constantly reminds us that they have the second most members in the league, you would expect that they would at least reach 30,000.

Quite disappointing to be honest, wether it be a Melbourne home game or not.
 
Richmond in a bit of form at long last, Essendon having started with a run of 6 wins and still in 5th and Collingwood averaging 60K per game all substantially ahead of where they were trending after Round 10 last year. Geelong doing fine in Cat Park but less so in Melbourne. Elsewhere we see stagnating or falling attendances.

The plusses are that the giants are pulling the wagon along. The minuses are that the smaller clubs ( Dees, Dogs, North ) suffering from form and scheduling problems are falling behind. Glass half full or half empty?

Should every smaller melbourne club ( Dogs, North, Dees ) be given at least 2 of the Big 4 at home on a Fri night or Saturday with some kind of concession for mambers of the visiting club? I don't know. $5 or $6 entry or free for under 16s of whatvever as a means of getting people into the ground. it could be seen as a 2 way benefit. Say Dogs V Essendon. Cheap day out for the Bomber fan, financial injection for he Pups and better athmosphere.
 
It's time to stop games in Cairns and Northern Territory. We don't need to advertise the game in Northern Territory. Just build a 30,000 stadium in melbourne and stop being tight afl. Aim for a tassie team in 5 years and get north and hawthorn out of there
 

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