Opinion 2014 Draft ( Live discussion ) Mod notice post #6629

[Aphrodite]

Of the money variety?

No the Tarnya variety!

 

[ferrisb]

Brought up is an apt way to put it.

Cringles response was very good. I thought this one was even better. Can't believe no one else liked it...

 

[etsal1]

You'll need to read other threads for that info, e. I'm bound by confidentiality laws atm but promise all will be revealed soon.

As long as you're in a good position when all this is done.

 

[mediumsizered]

He's a lumberjack & he' s ok

He sleeps all night & he works all day.

 

[LanceRomance]

He sleeps all night & he works all day.

He puts on womens clothing.... and hangs around in bars

 

[thylacine60]

unfortunately I'm in no position to defend that charge atm......

 

[mediumsizered]

On Wednesday he goes shopping & has buttered scones for tea.

 

[Finners]

If a proposed trade goes through with us getting jaksch and norths 1st for our 1st. Can anyone else see Jarrod Garlett being looked at with our 1st? Think with rogers eluding to the need for speed a while ago, watching the champs he was lightning. From what I've noticed the top teams have 2 really pacy wingers. Hawks smith/hill. Sydney rohan/Jetta. Port White/Polec. Freo hill/Pearce. Just think with cripps and graham coming through as inside types, he might be the right type of player we'd be looking at. Could see garlett/Yarran being our two. Potentially a perfect mentor role for Yarran aswell

 

[Cringle]

If a proposed trade goes through with us getting jaksch and norths 1st for our 1st. Can anyone else see Jarrod Garlett being looked at with our 1st? Think with rogers eluding to the need for speed a while ago, watching the champs he was lightning. From what I've noticed the top teams have 2 really pacy wingers. Hawks smith/hill. Sydney rohan/Jetta. Port White/Polec. Freo hill/Pearce. Just think with cripps and graham coming through as inside types, he might be the right type of player we'd be looking at. Could see garlett/Yarran being our two. Potentially a perfect mentor role for Yarran aswell

Bit apprehensive about getting another Yarran. Thought we'd be better off getting another quality mid from the get go. Ahern or La Verde. Or even Weller.

 

[F_therest]

Does anyone else feel that in todays game we and all clubs would be better served using our top picks on forwards, mids and hbf but never on a ruck or kpd?

I keep hearing "best available" but i think its rubbish...if best available at pick 6 was a ruckman or kpd id be saying hell no mid or kpf please.

Whether by chance or design, just taking a look at hawthorn they have traded in their rucks and kpd. Mcevoy, hale, lake, gibson and spangher were all trades...pretty incredible really.

To me it seems ruckmen and kpd only have to be servicable like hawthorns and even good ones like gibson and mcevoy are much cheaper to trade for than a gun mid or forward.

Spend top picks trying to land gun mids and forwards and trading in role players for ruckman and kpd positions seems like the way to go.

 

[BlueJet]

Does anyone else feel that in todays game we and all clubs would be better served using our top picks on forwards, mids and hbf but never on a ruck or kpd?

I keep hearing "best available" but i think its rubbish...if best available at pick 6 was a ruckman or kpd id be saying hell no mid or kpf please.

Whether by chance or design, just taking a look at hawthorn they have traded in their rucks and kpd. Mcevoy, hale, lake, gibson and spangher were all trades...pretty incredible really.

To me it seems ruckmen and kpd only have to be servicable like hawthorns and even good ones like gibson and mcevoy are much cheaper to trade for than a gun mid or forward.

Spend top picks trying to land gun mids and forwards and trading in role players for ruckman and kpd positions seems like the way to go.

It's hard to say definitively as footy is constantly evolving.
I'd say the value of rucks and crumbing forwards are at an all time low with the need for extra midfield rotations etc..

 

[Cringle]

Pickett and Lamb have pretty underwhelming highlight packages. On the other hand... La Verde looks like he has a bit of Pendlshit about him. Maybe mixed with Parker.

Keital also looks pretty promising for a 2nd round pick. Can play both forward and back. Could he develop in the 2s with Giles?

Would also be interested in McKenzie if he is still available in the 3rd round. The Northern Blues KPP could look like this.

FB Keital
CHB Giles
CHF Watson
FF McKenzie

La Verde in the middle with a couple of experienced heads, Carrots and McLean and the developing Holman, Graham and co.

Whilst in the 1sts Jamison and Rowe KPD and Henderson and Casboult KPF with Jaksch swinging from attack to defence like a pendulum.

 

[Cringle]

Honestly I just want to hear how our KPP are developing in the 2s instead of how Anthony got 5 kicked on him.

 

[Blue Flame]

Honestly I just want to hear how our KPP are developing in the 2s instead of how Anthony got 5 kicked on him.

But did you hear how Anthony had 5 kicked on him?

 

[Coona Blues]

Pickett and Lamb have pretty underwhelming highlight packages. On the other hand... La Verde looks like he has a bit of Pendlshit about him. Maybe mixed with Parker.

Keital also looks pretty promising for a 2nd round pick. Can play both forward and back. Could he develop in the 2s with Giles?

Would also be interested in McKenzie if he is still available in the 3rd round. The Northern Blues KPP could look like this.

FB Keital
CHB Giles
CHF Watson
FF McKenzie

La Verde in the middle with a couple of experienced heads, Carrots and McLean and the developing Holman, Graham and co.

Whilst in the 1sts Jamison and Rowe KPD and Henderson and Casboult KPF with Jaksch swinging from attack to defence like a pendulum.

Come on Cringle, this is sacrilege.

There are plenty of Watson "haters" on this forum, yet you have had an unabashed "bromance".
Now you propose he be playing the season in the 2's

Am a big supporter of Watson, but if he can't cement a best 22 spot in 2015, he may as well be trade bait.

We do need 2 more KPP's to balance the list, and the Northern Blues line up. Like the sound of Kietel, McKenzie another
matter, we get seduced by the thought of our own Hawkins or Cloke, but the modern game pretty much demands players
be more than one trick ponies. Suspect McKenzie will slip a long way more than most expect.

 

[Cringle]

Come on Cringle, this is sacrilege.

There are plenty of Watson "haters" on this forum, yet you have had an unabashed "bromance".
Now you propose he be playing the season in the 2's

Am a big supporter of Watson, but if he can't cement a best 22 spot in 2015, he may as well be trade bait.

We do need 2 more KPP's to balance the list, and the Northern Blues line up. Like the sound of Kietel, McKenzie another
matter, we get seduced by the thought of our own Hawkins or Cloke, but the modern game pretty much demands players
be more than one trick ponies. Suspect McKenzie will slip a long way more than most expect.

Yeh I've heard McKenzie could be a potential rookie. Long term project. Would still like to take a shot... but that's maybe cause he's a father/son.

With Watson, personally I'd see him ahead of Jaksch and have Jaksch as CHF in the 2s. But I wanted to be realistic and have Watto their as I acknowledge he's behind Henderson and Casboult. Have no idea what will happen next year. Hope he does get some solid game time.

 

[Azul]

crumbing forwards are at an all time low with the need for extra midfield rotations etc..

Hasn't bothered Adelaide with Betts and Charlie Cameron.

We'd be a stronger side if Jeffy could find his mojo.

 

[Big Sim]

Key trade, draft & free agency dates:-


Friday October 3 - NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period begins

Friday October 3, by 2pm - NAB AFL father/son bidding nominations; Academy bidding nominations lodged with AFL

Monday October 6, 10am - Father/son and Academy players bidding meeting; NAB AFL Trade Period begins

Sunday October 12, at 5.15pm - Close of NAB AFL restricted free Agency offer and unrestricted free agency period

Wednesday October 15 - NAB AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends

Thursday October 16, at 2pm - NAB AFL Trade Period closes

Friday October 31, by 2pm - List lodgement (1); Rookie promotion to primary list; Retained second and third-year rookies; Scholarship players; Alternate talent player nominations, Total player payment (TPP) estimates.

Saturday November 1 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins

Wednesday November 12 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes; Out of contract listed AFL primary list players draft nomination form and player request for removal from list form Lodged with AFL; New or expired (after three years) draft nomination form lodgement.

Thursday November 13, by 2pm - List lodgement (2).

Friday November 14 - AFL delisted player free agency period (2) begins

Wednesday November 19 - Delisted primary list draft nomination form lodgement; Non–retained rookie players draft nomination form lodgement; Players not registered or played for three years rookie nomination. NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) closes

Thursday November 27 - NAB AFL Draft selection meeting (Gold Coast Convention Centre).

Friday November 28 - NAB AFL delisted free agency Period (3) begins

Monday December 1 - AFL delisted player free agency period (3) ends. AFL club list lodgement (3) and TPP estimates. International players inclusion on rookie list form; Scholarship players rookie list form lodged; Father/son and Academy pre-selected rookie nominations.

Wednesday December 3 - NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft selection meeting (11am); Notification of pre-selected rookies nominated on Monday November 25 if not selected in the pre-season draft (11.05am); NAB AFL Rookie Draft selection meeting (11.10am)

Monday December 5 – Final club list lodgement

Friday December 12, by 2pm - International players inclusion on rookie list



http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-26/key-trade-draft-and-free-agency-dates

Thanks Aph.

Looking at the dates, the word "interminable" comes to mind.

 

[gandaal]

Pickett and Lamb have pretty underwhelming highlight packages. On the other hand... La Verde looks like he has a bit of Pendlshit about him. Maybe mixed with Parker

I was actually impressed by Pickett based on his highlights package alone. Hit targets by foot, good evasion, good speed.

Impossible to really get a good idea of their talent without watching them live.

 

[Cringle]

I was actually impressed by Pickett based on his highlights package alone. Hit targets by foot, good evasion, good speed.

Impossible to really get a good idea of their talent without watching them live.

Yeh exactly. Who do you like?

 

[TGR]

I was actually impressed by Pickett based on his highlights package alone. Hit targets by foot, good evasion, good speed.

Impossible to really get a good idea of their talent without watching them live.

Has no defensive awareness or care for it. We can do better.

 

[gandaal]

Has no defensive awareness or care for it. We can do better.

I'm not going to argue. You can't really judge players based on a highlights package.

That said, I can see why Petracca is rated so highly. Geez I wish we could get that guy.

 

[gandaal]

Yeh exactly. Who do you like?

I agree with you about Leverde. Looked a good player. Plenty of time and space, broke lines, hit targets.

Didn't see what the big deal is with Brayshaw.

The talls weren't particularly impressive but most seemed to be coming off injuries.

 

[Aphrodite]

Patrick Keane: AFL today advised clubs that Free Agency Compensation will be advised at time of player move, not at end of Free Agency Period as previously.

 

[etsal1]

So on Friday we should know what if we get anything for Waite.