List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

[Dramoth]

People say Kreuz won't be part of our next flag....he is only 26.
Could easily play 4 more good years, maybe even up to 6.

We've seen how quick Beverage has turned the Dogs around...it is possible.

I really think that the last 18 months have actually seen Kreuzer really recover finally from the knee injury he suffered from in 2010 as well. The foot injuries over the last 2 years might have just been an offshoot of the knee problems. He also looks to be 100% confident in his body again. There were some times over the last 4 years where he has looked out of sorts taking the big marks and even just moving quickly on the lead.

I reckon that we should be planning on having Kreuzer at the club for the next 4 years minimum.

 

[Draft Buster]

two words for Draft Buster... "**** NO"...

The only reason I would like to see him at Princes Park for a single day is so that Robbie Walls could punch his ******* lights out.

Wow don't really understand the bad vibes towards Zac Clarke???
Anyway would be good to pick up a ready made good young ruck from another club that is out of contract to help Kruz out, our ruck stocks are very thin

 

[Love the Drake]

Kruez must stay. If he can keep his body sound he will be in the top 5 rucks in the comp (hopefully) and add another dimension to our team. Very very important player; must keep.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Kruez must stay. If he can keep his body sound he will be in the top 5 rucks in the comp (hopefully) and add another dimension to our team. Very very important player; must keep.

Not sure he will be in the Top 5 rucks but he may just well be in the Top 5 players


I reckon a fit Kruezer is one of the best old fashioned Ruck-Rovers going around. Rate him as a mid-fielder not necessarily as a ruckman.


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[HBF]

He doesnt want to leave... he had that interview back a couple of weeks after he returned from injury stating that he wasnt interested in exercising his FA rights and just wanted to stay with the club forever.

Sounds like we have washed the Collingwood right out of the boy now

Thats what i'm hoping for Dram. Boy would we miss him if he left.

 

[HARKER]

Thats what i'm hoping for Dram. Boy would we miss him if he left.

If Kreuzer leaves, it's because we gave him a reason to do so when we didn't need to.
I don't think Kreuzer would leave because he wants to, but if you loyalty doesn't run 2 ways........????

Won't be good for the CFC should they allow someone they call 'Carlton, through and through' walk out the door.

 

[HBF]

Well said Harks.

 

[AB_Blue]

Does also say in yesterday's interview that he "loves the club"

I'll take his comments at face value. He will stay, he has to.....

 

[HARKER]

Does also say in yesterday's interview that he "loves the club"

I'll take his comments at face value. He will stay, he has to.....

He doesn't have to if SOS is waiting and seeing. He does have balls does SOS.

 

[thylacine60]

Would also think SOS is smart enough to sniff the wind regarding supporter attachment to Kreuzer. Please, no "sell Kreuzer if it improves our position" posts. I'm struggling with this situation enough already.

 

[AB_Blue]

He doesn't have to if SOS is waiting and seeing. He does have balls does SOS.

Balls he has

Ruckman (if MK goes) not so much

 

[doggies ftw]

Sorry to intrude guys, honestly I hate the way the AFL is going and it'd be great to see someone like Kruezer stay and repay the faith youve shown in him but then at the same time of course I want the best for my club

With the talk about us being heavily into Kruezer I just got a question. I know he's fantastic around the ground and can be a genuine threat up forward but hows his actual ruckwork and centre square work? After watching what Natanui did to us on the weekend I want a beast who will palm it down our mids throats all game.

 

[jezzajay]

for the life of me i cant get my head around kreuzer leaving...he had the opportunity to go to gws a few years back for more money then what he was on with us and he still said no.
if there was ever a player that bled blue its kreuzer!!! this will sting me more than betts leaving if it happens. although with betts the writing was on the wall at an earlier stage than this.
i simply will not entertain the thought of this happening...it will floor me if it happens. my wifey even said to me she could see i had a man crush with this boy on sunday.
i would take his interview with a grain of salt...mk is coy and shy at the best of times when it comes to the media. i think he would have struggled with the question of his future with the cameras and microphones in his face.

i think we have plenty of scope to trade and make gains through the draft without throwing mk amongst the pidgeons.

 

[ODNBlue]

Sorry to intrude guys, honestly I hate the way the AFL is going and it'd be great to see someone like Kruezer stay and repay the faith youve shown in him but then at the same time of course I want the best for my club

With the talk about us being heavily into Kruezer I just got a question. I know he's fantastic around the ground and can be a genuine threat up forward but hows his actual ruckwork and centre square work? After watching what Natanui did to us on the weekend I want a beast who will palm it down our mids throats all game.

That's not his bag baby...

 

[Azul]

I know he's fantastic around the ground and can be a genuine threat up forward but hows his actual ruckwork and centre square work?

Actual ruckwork? At 200cm, he's a midget conceding several inches. Part of the reason we've kept Warnock on the list so long.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Sorry to intrude guys, honestly I hate the way the AFL is going and it'd be great to see someone like Kruezer stay and repay the faith youve shown in him but then at the same time of course I want the best for my club

With the talk about us being heavily into Kruezer I just got a question. I know he's fantastic around the ground and can be a genuine threat up forward but hows his actual ruckwork and centre square work? After watching what Natanui did to us on the weekend I want a beast who will palm it down our mids throats all game.

He's ours, you're not having him, back off...

 

[jezzajay]

He's ours, you're not having him, back off...

nwa!!! love it!
or in our instance... bwa... being blues with attitude!

 

[passmark]

He's ours, you're not having him, back off...

I like what Beyonce did with the Thin White Dukes leather jacket.

 

[Omega Blue]

Sorry to intrude guys, honestly I hate the way the AFL is going and it'd be great to see someone like Kruezer stay and repay the faith youve shown in him but then at the same time of course I want the best for my club

With the talk about us being heavily into Kruezer I just got a question. I know he's fantastic around the ground and can be a genuine threat up forward but hows his actual ruckwork and centre square work? After watching what Natanui did to us on the weekend I want a beast who will palm it down our mids throats all game.

Centre Sq he'll concede most times around the ground holds his own.
So basically when the ball goes to the middle 20 times a game he's not your man. In every other case he's your guy.
But as mebby said you can't have him.

 

[Blue Pulse]

Sorry to intrude guys, honestly I hate the way the AFL is going and it'd be great to see someone like Kruezer stay and repay the faith youve shown in him but then at the same time of course I want the best for my club

With the talk about us being heavily into Kruezer I just got a question. I know he's fantastic around the ground and can be a genuine threat up forward but hows his actual ruckwork and centre square work? After watching what Natanui did to us on the weekend I want a beast who will palm it down our mids throats all game.

Warnock's a tap ruck man and is a beast of a man. (well baby giraffe). Kreuzer is an old fashioned ruck rover with a football brain.
The positive is that, at this stage there is only one Nic Nat in the league, no other ruckman can compete against his jump, this is where your mids have to switch on to read his tap work as no current ruckman can match his leap.

 

[doggies ftw]

Cheers for the quick answers guys. I knew he wasnt gonna be a Nicnat type in there but I was hoping youd say he was at least above average in that regard rate the around the ground work though so Id still love him, im sure we can work something out

 

[thylacine60]

No. No we can't. I'm sorry but we can't.

 

[Azul]

Centre square bounces will be gone within 2 years. The number of recalls on Sunday demonstrate this.

The future is failed college basketballers like Jason Holmes and Mason Cox. (Which is one reason we're getting that 206cm Arnold Horshack dude)

 

[FoeverBlues]

He doesn't have to if SOS is waiting and seeing. He does have balls does SOS.

have three boys to prove that, Harker

 

[Tony Lynn 15]

He's ours, you're not having him, back off...

I still reckon Beyonce is worth an international rookie spot. In her videos some of her work down back is amazing!!