List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

[DangerousD]

Out of interest, how much would be enough ?

I think two first round picks, you keep hearing pick 8-9 plus Witts, to me thats still not enough

 

[slashin_velvet]

I think two first round picks, you keep hearing pick 8-9 plus Witts, to me thats still not enough

Would we consider Witts as a replacement for Krooz?

Lets say my previous hypothetical where AFL only agree to give us a first rounder for Krooz if we trade 2 for 3 with Brisbane with some player movements (knowing the AFL being manipulative I see this as highly likely).

We trade pick 3 for Adams, Witts and their second?

We get a ruckman we need, a midfielder who reportedly doesnt get along with Treloar and a second rounder for use in FS bidding.

 

[AB_Blue]

Reasonable on paper but very similar team to this year, so worried about quality, depth and injuries. Bell and Curnow must be in the starting side, as they were two of our best this year.
Really lack genuine A graders so really need some player development under BB.
I think Walker (Menz/Yaz/?), Simmo (Sheehan/Rice?), Thomas (Bell/Aish?/Bugg?) and Jamo (Giles/Plowman?) will fall out of best 22 so need planned quality replacements.

If Treloar slips through to the PSD that would help .

If we lost Kreuzer but got #2 (Schache) it would mean KJ could be a 3rd tall option forward or back. Just hate losing Kreuzer and we would be massively weak in the ruck. S Martin wants to leave Brisbane for a Melbourne club but is contracted. Would be a good replacement for MK for a few years while we rebuild, but cost would be interesting? Zac Smith would also be OK but not sure what we could trade GC?

Not sure we can afford Carlisle (4th round pick?) unless he comes via PSD.

Hendo + #20 for #9 (11?) and #28 with Geelong? Keep #9 (Collins/Curnow/Clarke) and need #28 for Rice?

Hope Bolton can improve our list quality with player development as I cannot see the quality lifting for at least a few years through the draft as we have too many holes.

All valid points. I guess I was just putting on paper as it stands right now. With Carlisle being the only stretch arm. bell would be in my starting 18, if he was a lock to stay.

I'm happy with that side as a base because with the additions of trades, a PSD player and the national draft........we may have something we crave. Depth and talent

 

[AB_Blue]

Reasonable on paper but very similar team to this year, so worried about quality, depth and injuries. Bell and Curnow must be in the starting side, as they were two of our best this year.
Really lack genuine A graders so really need some player development under BB.
I think Walker (Menz/Yaz/?), Simmo (Sheehan/Rice?), Thomas (Bell/Aish?/Bugg?) and Jamo (Giles/Plowman?) will fall out of best 22 so need planned quality replacements.

If Treloar slips through to the PSD that would help .

If we lost Kreuzer but got #2 (Schache) it would mean KJ could be a 3rd tall option forward or back. Just hate losing Kreuzer and we would be massively weak in the ruck. S Martin wants to leave Brisbane for a Melbourne club but is contracted. Would be a good replacement for MK for a few years while we rebuild, but cost would be interesting? Zac Smith would also be OK but not sure what we could trade GC?

Not sure we can afford Carlisle (4th round pick?) unless he comes via PSD.

Hendo + #20 for #9 (11?) and #28 with Geelong? Keep #9 (Collins/Curnow/Clarke) and need #28 for Rice?

Hope Bolton can improve our list quality with player development as I cannot see the quality lifting for at least a few years through the draft as we have too many holes.

All valid points. I guess I was just putting on paper as it stands right now. With Carlisle being the only stretch arm. bell would be in my starting 18, if he was a lock to stay.

I'm happy with that side as a base because with the additions of trades, a PSD player and the national draft........we may have the nucleus of a good team

 

[HBF]

Redpath is looking like he could be a player. Great size and body shape for a KPF.

He's a massive unit. A heap of upside.

 

[HBF]

Out of interest, how much would be enough ?

A first round pick and then some.

 

[ShanDog]

He's a massive unit. A heap of upside.

I haven't see a lot of him, but from what I have, he ticks all the boxes you want in a 'power forward':

-Good height
-Good speed and agility
-Very good leap
-Decent hands
-Decent kick for goal

From there, it's all work rate and footy smarts that get you to A-grade status. They could have a good one on their hands.

 

[Sheephead]

Still dont think we end up with 1 & 2. I see the afl doing abit of tampering as follows:
Carlton get pick 2 for Big K, but trade that pick and Bell for Aish, Green and Pick 3.
So its effectively Krooz and Bell for Pick 3, Aish and Green.

With AFL commentary on Schache to BRI being the catalyst for all this innuendo, the only way I see us not getting 1&2 if Kreuzer leaves is via the league handing out priority picks (PP). Putting Kreuzer FA compo to end of 1st round alone without a PP will release a Blue storm against the AFL. If they do PP's, we get 1 (PP), BRI get 2 (PP), we get 3 (finish 18th), BRI get 4 (finish 17th), GCS get 5, ............ we get 20 (FA compo), BRI get 21 (FA compo), GCS get 22 (2014 compo), we get 23 (2nd round begins), BRI get.... So, if it plays out that MK leaves, I reckon we get - 1,3,20,23,....

There is also no way AFL can collude to make/force teams to bake up a trade so BRI get the 2 pick. They can only create the situation within the draft order.


And getting Tom Boyd for 3 may be feasible, BUT, WB must pay some of that salary. We can't absorb that kind of contract and try to rebuild.

I'd rather we send the 3 to GCS with Bell for Peter Wright and their end of 1st 2014 compo. Peter Wright would be a awesome Kreuzer replacement IMO.

 

[HARKER]

He's a massive unit. A heap of upside.

There may be some upside but the guy is effectively 25...............No spring chicken and has only played 15 games for 21 goals.

BTW: Why is Lennon repeatedly getting mentioned? Something we made up because he is/was a Carlton supporter or is there some meat on the bone?

 

[HBF]

There may be some upside but the guy is effectively 25...............No spring chicken and has only played 15 games for 21 goals.

BTW: Why is Lennon repeatedly getting mentioned? Something we made up because he is/was a Carlton supporter or is there some meat on the bone?

Just speculation with Lennon. Unsigned and he could be part of the Yarran trade.

 

[HARKER]

Just speculation with Lennon. Unsigned and he could be part of the Yarran trade.

I see. One and one equals two.

I think The Tigers would love to offload Conca.........we couldn't, could we?

 

[Blueblood75]

AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News
2 mins ·
Carlton have signed US basketballer Matt Korcheck as a Category B International Rookie.

Korcheck, who stands at 6”10 (208cm) and weighs 105kg, caught the eye of recruiters at a Florida screening camp in April this year. He was later invited to train with the Blues and spent three weeks at Ikon Park in August.

 

[HARKER]

AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News
2 mins ·
Carlton have signed US basketballer Matt Korcheck as a Category B International Rookie.

Korcheck, who stands at 6”10 (208cm) and weighs 105kg, caught the eye of recruiters at a Florida screening camp in April this year. He was later invited to train with the Blues and spent three weeks at Ikon Park in August.

KORCHECK............................................................

We've just gained 2cm Every guy would take that.

 

[LanceRomance]

KORCHECK............................................................

We've just gained 2cm

Take it where we can get it.

Not that it matters.

 

[Mezzoculo]

When should we expect list changes to be announced? Thought it was pretty soon after a club played its last game.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

He's a massive unit. A heap of upside.

Surely can't fit Boyd, Stringer, Dickson, Redpath, Grant, Stevens, Cordy, Roberts in the same forward line?

When should we expect list changes to be announced? Thought it was pretty soon after a club played its last game.

Didn't someone suggest after the Best and Fairest they probably would start, which is on the 17th September (Thursday)

 

[DangerousD]

Would we consider Witts as a replacement for Krooz?

Lets say my previous hypothetical where AFL only agree to give us a first rounder for Krooz if we trade 2 for 3 with Brisbane with some player movements (knowing the AFL being manipulative I see this as highly likely).

We trade pick 3 for Adams, Witts and their second?

We get a ruckman we need, a midfielder who reportedly doesnt get along with Treloar and a second rounder for use in FS bidding.

I think you are getting crazy, there will be ruckman available much cheaper this year or next. Lobbe could find himself on the outer at port, you have smith at GC and Stef Martin has said he wants to come home to Melbourne. I think Witts is worth a pick around 20 but will go to GWS.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Likelihood of Jayden Foster playing games in 2016?

 

[HBF]

Likelihood of Jayden Foster playing games in 2016?

It would have to be late 2016. Still pretty raw from what i've seen.

 

[will7337]

AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News
2 mins ·
Carlton have signed US basketballer Matt Korcheck as a Category B International Rookie.

Korcheck, who stands at 6”10 (208cm) and weighs 105kg, caught the eye of recruiters at a Florida screening camp in April this year. He was later invited to train with the Blues and spent three weeks at Ikon Park in August.

I know a guy who was on that US trip scouting and he said everyone was after Korcheck. Meant to be an absolute freak athlete and watching his interviews he seems hell bent on playing AFL.

 

[Smalls0304]

i dont understand all the talk of trading 2 if we get it? We can draft a CHB and FF for the next 10-15 years! would hate to see him do a kennedy and dominate elsewhere knowing what we couldve had

 

[SABlue]

Not keen on trading pick 2 if we were to get it. But if we were sought forced too to receive that compo how is this for a trade.
Pick 2 to bris for pick 3 and Aish.
On trade pick 3 to GWS for McCarthy and Downie.

 

[Blueblood75]

AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News
9 mins ·
Collingwood's Jarrod Witts has refused to be traded to GWS which means Collingwood are now OUT of race for Carlton's Matthew Kreuzer.

Kreuzer now looks increasingly likely to stay at Carlton.

- Sam McClure

reliable source?

 

[Matty411]

Option always there that GWS could be interested...

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Exit interviews occurring in Canberra as we type.