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From his 13 games, Jason Tutt was in the top 15 for tackles, kicks, marks and handballs at the club last year.

Sorry to shout but this Tutt the Spud trope is really beginning to annoy me.

Mezz, were there any stats with respect to the percentage of Tutt's handballs/kicks that ended up with a teammate? His disposal is SHITE.
 

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Mezz, were there any stats with respect to the percentage of Tutt's handballs/kicks that ended up with a teammate? His disposal is SHITE.
I can't be arsed going through the whole team's numbers but his disposal efficiency was on par with Cripps and Boekhorst and slightly higher than Murphy's. I get that people remember his howlers - and he had a few - but he also did some good work. His numbers really improved across the board after establishing himself in the side at the midpoint of the season.
 
Tutt makes an effort and he's not afraid to tackle, he just looks like he shits himself when he has the ball...like **** what the **** do I do with this
This year being in possession of the ball was often a poisoned chalice for Carlton players, particularly if you took possession somewhere around the wing & looked inside F50 only to see a couple of opponents & no Navy Blue jumpers within cooee. It makes you wonder if our players were scared of being off-side.
 
Actually don't mind Tutt. Cost nothing and at worst is depth. He doesn't end up being 1 less player on the field as he gets to a lot of contests. Unlike Jones.

The problem I do have with him is the MC giving games to him instead of a Holman or other younger players that are just as good already and will probably be better with more experience.
 
I can't be arsed going through the whole team's numbers but his disposal efficiency was on par with Cripps and Boekhorst and slightly higher than Murphy's. I get that people remember his howlers - and he had a few - but he also did some good work. His numbers really improved across the board after establishing himself in the side at the midpoint of the season.
53 percent of the 76 percent of people that think 80 percent of stats are only 11 percent accurate are right only 43 percent of the time .... stats don't always tell the whole story. In my view, he's a good tryer, he has a crack, but unfortunately he doesn't quite seem up to the level.
 
I can't be arsed going through the whole team's numbers but his disposal efficiency was on par with Cripps and Boekhorst and slightly higher than Murphy's. I get that people remember his howlers - and he had a few - but he also did some good work. His numbers really improved across the board after establishing himself in the side at the midpoint of the season.

Fair enough. There'd be a qualitative distinction in the case of Murph and Crippa though - a lot of their disposals are under intense pressure when they've just won a contested ball. Tutt, over and over, burnt the ball when he was free and clear and kicking under no pressure. I'll concede he did improve somewhat as the season progressed. Missed some sitter goals too.
 
Fair enough. There'd be a qualitative distinction in the case of Murph and Crippa though - a lot of their disposals are under intense pressure when they've just won a contested ball. Tutt, over and over, burnt the ball when he was free and clear and kicking under no pressure. I'll concede he did improve somewhat as the season progressed. Missed some sitter goals too.
He was hardly Robinson Crusoe there, sadly. I'm going to hold off judging him for another 12 months - another preseason and an extra 12 months getting to know his team mates quirks may see some solid improvements from him.
 

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He was hardly Robinson Crusoe there, sadly. I'm going to hold off judging him for another 12 months - another preseason and an extra 12 months getting to know his team mates quirks may see some solid improvements from him.

You're more generous than me. Fingers crossed his confidence grows and his disposal improves. I fear Mick's desperation to recruit more run has seen us lumped with Jordan Russell 2.0.
 
I laughed when the pies took him off our hands (for a pick in the 900s that we didn't use). What was it - about 5 games in black and white before they realised that his panicking under pressure wasn't gonna change and they never picked him again.
A foot fracture in round nine and a broken toe on return didn't help his cause.
 
Tutt could be much more useful in forward fifty I reckon....has the leg speed to defend and could be taught three things to do wit ball - depending on where he is in fifty - not a bad running kick for goal - but yeah bit of wide eyed rabbit in spotlights way too often..doesn't have any hurt in his kicking from an attacking perspective- he is defensive.
 
Lamb is a small forward too. I think you're saying you don't rate Plowman. Average pick 3 or not, for pick 20 it's a damn good deal.
It's not that I don't rate him, it's just that he doesn't offer us anything we don't already have in Defence (though he may be better than Jaksh, Everitt).

At 192cm, I don't think he could hold down CHB FB these days. We need someone 196+ in this era.
Would like to see us Pickup a recognised KPF as well.
 
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